Posted by chrisfirst
Hi guys,
Well, I have a bit of a trouble here. I'm afraid someone will find out my IP address. Long story short, I have a business partner overseas and I have something with his ex. You know what I mean... Anyway, they still living in a same flat for a couple of weeks and as far as I know he has access for her laptop. What I would like to know if it's possible to find out someone's IP from an email? I usually sending details to him. The other thing is if it's possible to find and IP through Skype? I try to chat to her on Skype, with different usernames, but we well in big trouble if he finds out it's the same person all the time. Even bigger if he ever find out it's me. Oh, one more thing. Because of this stupid new thing called BT Home Hub, I have a same IP all the time. I have them on the phone not a long ago and they have explaned to me my IP will never change. Lovely...
So, guys! Any advice?
Thanks a lot!
Posted by whistla
If you use firefox i think that you can broswse through a proxy. If you serach for proxy browsing through the internet your ip should be spoofed to another one. Just look on google and you should find all the info you need, or leave her alone!
EDIT:
http://www.pcmesh.com/surf-anonymous.htm - 29.95 USD for one year
There are free programs that can do this but you just need to look
[ This Message was edited by: whistla on 2006-08-09 17:12 ]
Posted by Cycovision
It is very easy to obtain your IP address from both email and skype. But it's not all doom and gloom...
The only way anyone can uniquely identify You, or more accurately the exact location of the computer you use would be to contact BT and get them to look up the IP address to see who is currently using it (that's you!) and then ask them to disclose your name and address to them. Under current UK laws, BT are not allowed to do that unless it is required as part of a criminal investigation, they can't just go around giving out your details to any tom, dick or harry who rings up and asks for it.
There are a number of IP tracing programs available but none of them can pinpoint your exact location, i.e. street and house number. Only BT know that and as I said, they're not allowed to reveal it except in certain circumstances and only then to an appropriate authority such as the police.
It's worth mentioning that even if you have a dynamic IP address, the authorities can still get your details from your ISP since they keep a log of which member had which IP address on a certain date and time.
So I wouldn't do anything TOO naughty online!
Posted by amnesia
he could always run a whois and get his general location.
Even better, if he uses the proper tracing apps he can get the town he's in.
Posted by Cycovision
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Absolutely, but luckily for chrisfirst
that's about as far as he'll get. But I guess if that's enough information for him, you'd better stop contacting her online!
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Posted by Krubach
Even if he's using a dynamic IP (given by his provider everytime he connects to the internet).
The other guy could just compare two emails arriving at almost the same time (one from him, and another one from the guy who's banging his wife) and check the IP.
Posted by rrojas260
Krubach is right, try to send emails to your partner via pc and emails to his ex using your cellphone, use an internet cafe or something.
Posted by rule_breaker
I have a very easy solution, Download a software Called 'Hide IP Platinum'
The software changes you current IP to a different location everytime you click on 'change proxy' mostly the IP locations are changed to: South Korea, Jordan, China, Malayasia, Switzerland, Poland, Japan and France.
I'm currently sending a message from Taiwan but im situated in the UK
It is legal to use such software as you have every right to Hide your IP Address.
Software can be found here:
http://www.soft32.com/download_102515.html
Posted by slugworth
or just dont worry an ip is only the ID part IP hacking is alot harder now days espec if your ona router ull notice ur internal ip is normaly 192.168.x.xxx but your public IP is hard to come by as most routers hide this now days
and only Cable have static IPs not xDSL or dialup everytime u log in ur IP changes
Posted by dude_se
i have a solution that will work 100%. buy a network adapter for your pc, borrow someone elses internet wirelessly
dude_se
Posted by rule_breaker
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Yup and get the neighbours in trouble for all those times they've annoyed you!
Posted by dude_se
exactly ^
dude_se
Posted by chrisfirst
Oh, boll...! I didn't think it's that easy to find it! I don't know what to do anymore, cause this Skype thing is the only chance we can chat a bit. Sometimes we can text to each other, but that guy is a real twat and he's checking her phone in every hour or so and making her to go everywhere with him. To much thing in the background and she's afraid he will do something stupid, like tell stuff to other people about her, she never want anybody to find out,etc. The problem is I don't know anything about her for more than a week now and it's driving me mad. I can't text her, I can't call her, cause if he will check her phone we are busted. I don't know who comes she hasn't sent me any text for that long! I'm afraid he has deleted all of her contacts from her phone, cause it happened before. Boy, I'm so depressed. I'm trying to contact her through Skype with different usernames like names we used to call each other, so she will be sure it's me, but no luck. Like she is never online, which is so strange, cause she is always on her computer. That why I was afraid about this IP thing, but it's seems like it doesn't really matter if I change my username or not, cause he can find my IP. Actualy, are you sure he can find my IP if I have sent him an email? That's not good at all, cause if he gets a little suspicious he can be sure it's me who's on Skype with "his girl"!
Posted by Cycovision
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and only Cable have static IPs not xDSL |
Not true anymore I'm afraid, you can have static IP adresses on xDSL. In fact, most ISP's charge extra for it since it allows you to use VNC, remote support and VPN more easily.
But I do agree that it's not something anyone should worry about too much, you can't get absolute proof of a persons identity from their IP address without their ISP releasing the information.
Stuff IP masking programs! Unless you're doing something criminal you don't need to hide your IP. The police and BT wouldn't be interested in somebody knocking off somebody else's missus or whatever!
Posted by slugworth
ah BT, talktalk, AOL and fsnet all have dynamic (mind u there USB modems not router) routers have a more static as there normaly left turned on but its still a dynamic IP non the less unless u pay or weird
Posted by Cycovision
Nothing to do with a router mate, all of the ISP's you mentioned can provide a static IP address if you ask (and pay)! Even AOL
That's the beauty of subnet masks!
Posted by fatreg
maybe the moral of the story is not to play with your mates off casts....
fatreg
Posted by chrisfirst
Well, I had a bit of a luck or whatever! She has sent me a couple of text and she thinks the safest way to keep in touch is an email. I don't think so, but nevermind. You know I don't care if he will find out what's going on behind his back, but I really care about this girl and I just couldn't take if she gets hurt more than as she is already! Anyway, the new question is: Can he find my IP address if she send me an email and if I send her a reply?
Posted by slugworth
not to my knowalge unless hes very good with outlook express or hotmail lol
although he will have ur email addy i would recommend u and her use free email accouts which he knowns non of and keep it hiden but he will find out
Posted by Cycovision
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Can he find my IP address if she send me an email and if I send her a reply? |
Yes mate, he can
Look, to be honest i think the problem here is more what's contained in the messages rather than the IP address they were sent from!
If she deletes them straight away, and I mean properly deleting them, not just sending them to the deleted items folder, he can't get the IP address because he won't know that the message was ever there.
Your problem is that he might get to the computer before she does, in which case IP addresses don't even come into it. He's gona read the bloody message and suss out what's going on, isn't he?
I wish you the best of luck, i really do but I think the least of your worries is tracing IP addresses. People suss these kinds of situations out without having to use tracing programs or contacting ISPs.
I hope it all works out for the best for you in the end
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Posted by chrisfirst
Thanks Cycovision, it's really nice of you to wish good luck to us! I hope we will! Thank you! Yeah, maybe it's doesn't really matter, but I hope he won't find those emails. Anyway, just to explain this situation a bit more. I have made a new yahoo mail account and I will use it through my Windows Mobile device's ( Imate K-Jam) email client's. She will make a new whatever free email address and that's it really. I don't think he will ever find it unless if he had installed some spy software on her laptop and have a track of all of her activity. Bloody hell, I feel like James Bond now... I hope he doesn't! Well, we will see what happens and I'll let you know if we will planning our wedding! Everyone invited who replied!
Anyway, I have the solution! I won't send him anymore mails from home! Yep,that's it!
Posted by fatreg
surely if it all going swimmingly he'll know later on anyway wont he?
*scratches head*
surely its better to be honest now before something happens that you cant reverse??
and yes i always take the moral high road...
honesty is the best policy is any situation. and its seldomn found in the people of today, stand up like a man and tell your mate that you have feelings for his ex. he'll take it one of 2 ways and then at least you will know..
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Posted by Berry
I think the operative word here is EX
If they arent together then surely there shouldnt be such an issue, unless of course there are other issues
Posted by Krubach
Now that you mention it...
How come her Ex has access to her phone, emails, computer, etc...
I think there's something not right.
Maybe the Ex part is not REALLY Ex, maybe you're using the "Ex" word knowing about what will happen in the future...
Posted by Berry
Thanking you Krubach
Posted by chrisfirst
Well, actualy what happened is, she was here in England for a while and she used to live in one of my flat. She is coming around for a couple of weeks every month or so. As far as I remember I was fancy her (on a good way!) even before we ever met. She said she felt the same as me for a long time. I was abroad for a while and she came to London in february. We have spoke on the phone a lot, and texted each other about business, but that's it, nothing more, but we always had that feeling about each other. Finaly we have met in april when she was here and I thought she is very cute and everything, but I have never thought anything more. Until, july when we went out with some friends and she ended up at my place for two days. Nothing happened at all, not even a single kiss. We were talking a lot and she said I might be the one for her and I have felt the same and now I know it. Anyway, her boyfriend is a real pice of work and she was trying to break up with him, but the guy just didn't want to take it. At the end of the day, he got so upset and he came to London for a weekend. Then she told him, she want to break up with him, because she had enough. Of course he couldn't take it. He wanted to take her home, but fortunately with no luck. He went and she stayed. Then we got closer to each other and something started. Then unfortunately she had to go back for a month or so to sort out her life there, cause she wants to come back for good. The trouble is, they where together for 3 years, they even used to live together and even now they living in the same flat till she's there. They have business and a loads of things together, but it's just not easy to sort a million things out with your ex after 3 years. They had a "big talk" about the break up and they agreed the best thing is if they just have a break. Well, actualy that's what he's think. Anyway, he told her if she ever come back never go back to her home, cause there will be trouble. He's an ...hole! So, what's happening is she's trying to sort everything out and they still in the same flat. Because he's so afraid someone in the background, he's checking her phone in every hour or so and her computer as well. She said she doesn't want anymore argument so if he want to check them, check them. That's why we have so much difficulties to contact each other. The other thing is if he'll find out what's going on he can open his big mouth and that could be very bad for her there. There is some things she doesn't want other people or her family to find out. So, that's it really and as you see it's just not easy to take and to know she want's to come back so badly, but she can't for a couple of weeks and we cannot even contact to each other properly. I just want her to be safe while she's still there, don't get hurt and don't be afraid of him all the bloody time.
So, that's the whole story so far.
Posted by Krubach
Phew...
I just hope you can work that out.
Maybe it's better for you to stay at large for now (although i agree it's tough for you), and wait 'till she get's her things done.
Posted by Berry
Well love is blind - i wish you the best
Posted by fatreg
naughty naughty girl..
getting involved with you when shes other wise engaged. not impressed..
don't know who to think less of.. her or her "ex"...
fatreg
Posted by chrisfirst
That wasn't very nice! Wasn't nice at all!
Posted by fatreg
i don't do nice, i do honest..
and as they say the truth hurts...
sorry if i made you think...
fatreg
Posted by whistla
I havent got much to say but hope it gets better for you anfd that you can sort things out....... properly!