Posted by Alec
Well me and luke are in the position of being owed a lot of money (him more so than me) by a member of this forum (naming no names) and it's clear he's not going to pay.
-It's been months.
-He's not answering his mobile.
-His brother/dad always says he's out whenever I call his home, infact I'm not even sure if it isn't him pretending to be his brother or dad.
-We haven't seen him on msn in a long while.
-There is no sign of the money.
We paid him money which he was sending to a supplier of his to get us the goods. We don't know if he ever sent the money, we have no proof either way.
All we do know is that we are owed money by this member.
So, neither me or Luke have ever been in this position before and we are unsure what to do...We've given him time, been patient with him and even begun to start to threaten him, but to no avail.
What do we do next?
Any help would be appreciated guys.
Thanks,
Alec (and Luke)
Posted by QVGA
Its a long shot. But since you know the username of the guy here, you can somehow manage to find out the IP adress from which he posts. From that you can find his adress and go there and kick his ass!
Posted by below24
Is this that Ipod scam thing?
Posted by Scorchio
Rather than "kicking his ass"... using the IP route, you need to approach the police. Gather ALL info form the transaction and I mean ALL info, everything from sms, email to letters and of money transfer documents. Approach your local station and ask for their help!
Good luck
Posted by fatreg
yeah gather all info and take it to el Po-leece...
im sue they wouldnt only be too happy to help.
i assume were taing about brownlad here? if so i can prolly save a bit of time as i have his address somewhere. or if you have his home number, when you give all the info to the Police they can do a reverse check..
i hope you all get it sorted boys..
fatreg
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
indeed we can get his ip address I believe, i also think I maybe able to get hold of his car number plate, if I could is there anything we can do with that?
I think between us we have all his mobile numbers and can get his address, I also hold all his bank details from when I initally sent the money along with proff of sending etc.
I don't have anything against this user, but I need the money I have a car to fix, my parents are moving to spain and im going to uni next year...
I personally don't want to have to take this further but if I have to I will, I have looked into small clams sourts and if all goes tits up, but id rather not waste our time and just get the money back
Posted by leeboy13
MATE IM OFF HOME NOW, BUT I WILL TRY AND SPEAK TO MY MISSES WHO IS 2 YEARS THROUGH A 3 YEAR LAW DEGREE
sorry about caps, in a mad rush to leave now, prob speak online in about an hur luke
All the best
Posted by below24
Yeah sounds like you guys should just huddle up. Stop trying to contact him, if he was honest he would have contacted you...
Go to the police, if that fails go to his house with the police... along with all your info!
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
THANKS LEE - YOUR A LEDGEND!!!!!!!!!!
SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT I QUITE LIKE THEM LOL
Posted by luigithfc
wish you all the best alec and luke i think solidsingh lives near him he might be able to help you!?
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
indeed he does although im not sure he will
Posted by tombadier
Not sure if you knew, but I also sent money to brownlad for ipods.
After a good few weeks with no sign of them arrivng, I asked for a refund. He was very good about it and although it took a while I did get it all back. The majority came via transfer from Canada from his supplier with the rest via Paypal from him.
I have got his address and phone number if you need it.
PM me if you want any info
Good luck in getting your money back.
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
yep you seemed to escape this whole mess something I wish I could have done... the main problem is he seems to have cut comunication with us, i last heard from him friday I think, and I believe when alex rand he was hung up on, which really lost allot of confidence I had. He does seem to have a problem with his supplier, but I don't understand what happend with alec...
Posted by mad4mobiles
I know what happened by the ounds of thing, both his heads got mixed up, or maybe it was always like that??!!
Posted by kk.226
Yeah I got his address and stuff if you need it.
Posted by solidsingh
i see brownlad all the time, he is experiencing problems and you cant get your money any qu icker and he is trying his best to get it back asap. you will get your money i can guarantee you of this. brownlads supplier has basically cancelled all his wholesale orders and his refunding all his customers including brownlad, the same day brownlad gets the refund you will get yours, there really is nothing that brownlad can do about it and even if you contacted the law they cant do nothing because brownlad cant refund you until he has the money to. if i could help you get the money back any quicker than i would, but i really cant do anything about it and i know 100% that brownlad is trying his best. if you need to ask brownlad anything, ask me and ill try and get back to you asap.
Posted by pmerryman
Its non of my business, as it is not me who is on the receiving end, but why couldn't brownlad, get in touch with them and explain this too them?
Posted by Alec
The problem I have is the lack of contact and the fact that he doesn't seem to care. If I was him I'd be ringing the supplier daily and making his life impossible, he occasionally sends him an email.
Posted by solidsingh
he does phone him everyday numerous times
Posted by Alec
Why doesn't he tell us all this then? When I occasionally speak to him he says he hasn't phoned him, that he's waiting for a reply to an email.
Posted by solidsingh
the supplier doesnt answer his phone, and he replies to emails like once a week
Posted by Alec
I'm going away friday and although he doesn't owe me as much as others, the money he does owe me would be spent on this holiday. He guarenteed me almost 3 weeks ago that I would have it by this date, there is NO sign yet of this happening.
Posted by p900 lover
sorry to sound harsh and butt in but he could jsut sell his car?
Posted by brownlad007
LOL, how retarded are some people on this forum.
Firstly ive been away for the weekend on holiday. Am i not allowed to do this?
Secondly, Im in the same position as you and call the Canadian Consumer Gateway on a few occasians.
I told you im doing my best to get the money back and it will be back soon. No need to get these fools involved.
Btw, there is nothing you can do if the money is not returned. Trust me on that one. If you think you could then feel free to try. And alec why would i try to act like my mom or dad or what ever to avoid you? you called my house 5 times while i was out and only my mobile once this morning. if you called my mobile from 2 onwards i would of answered.
Posted by Krubach
@all
See? brownlad is doing his best to get the money back.
Free advice if you want it...
"Don't send money to people you don't know".
If you do, don't come here complaining.
P.S.-If laffen would give you the IP address, as someone suggested, that would be illegal. Only the police could request it to him.
Posted by ÈL ® ö B ì Ñ
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P.S.-If laffen would give you the IP address, as someone suggested, that would be illegal. Only the police could request it to him. |
No it wouldn't, forums don't come under data protection act, anyone can request an IP if it's for the right reasons, the supplier needs to make sure that they need it for lawful reasons though.
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Any need for that?
Personally if you owed me money you'd be in alot more shit then what you are with Alec and the other lad, you owe money and YOU need to deal with it, not a supplier. The supplier owes YOU money, YOU owe someone else money, you need to sort it dispite the supplier owing you money.
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Firstly ive been away for the weekend on holiday. Am i not allowed to do this? |
For the weekend.....
Thats ok, but from what i've read...months these lads have been waiting, you went away ONE weekend...2 days...
Only giving you like another 60 to sort them out.
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No need to get these fools involved. |
You mean a community helping each other out?
Ok.
Fool.
Personally lads, i'd phone the police up and report him for theft or something, see what the police can do. If I owe someone money, I stay in constant contact, full updates and repay them ASAP, not "as soon as I get my money from this 1 guy". Go get a job and pay these people what you owe!
Posted by Johnex
It also depends on what your hosts policy is.
Posted by hairytea
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If it isn't this person and you don't wanna say who and you also know this guys name and the town he lives in then use the following site to find him...then kick his ass lol
http://www.b4usearch.com/
if he is registred on the electral thingy he will be listed here....good luck
Posted by solidsingh
what will kicking his ass achieve? you definitely wont get your money then
Posted by fatreg
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a little threatening behaviour works wonders..
but i'd just leave it up to el Po-leece, no-one is more inept at getting your money back that they are..
fatreg
Posted by solidsingh
threatening behaviour wont get no1 anywhere because its also an offence
Posted by fatreg
you need proof in that instance...
who saw luke et al with a baseballbat at brownlads house? not me
but as i said, el Po-leece wil lsort it out, so no need for any of us to get involved.
farteg
Posted by leeboy13
thing is this isnt about £10 or even £50 is it.....? its no wonder people get funny about it when the person in question cannot be contacted for one reason or another.... im my opinion the seller should of notified all parties concerned that he was away, that way none of this would of happened.... and from whats been said intially by alec and luke i think they are quite within their rights to come here asking for help..... better to do this and try and sort it out other than going straight to the police me thinks.... or even going striaght round the sellers house
So fair play you two, i think what youve done here is the right thing. And if this is a problem with supplies, a good businessman will have enough to back any problems up (now i aint having a pop at teh seller) just stating that to simply say 'my supplier......' is not good enough, this is peoples livelyhoods......
Hopefully it'll all be sorted soon anyway
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Posted by scottt
Yeah dont wanna butt in but i know in Lukes case its certainly a substantial amount of money, and brownlad should be trying as hard as possible to get the money back, the general feeling i get from brownlad too is that of being very laid back about the matter, dunno about anyone else but i certainly would'nt be like that knowing i owe somebody a shed load of cash, also why the heck did brownlad did not make sure the ipods would deffo be on there way before you paid.
Like i said not really my place to say just placing my thoughts on teh situation and hope its rectified asap as its brownlads reputation on the line and more importantly peoples har earned cash on the line
Posted by Evil Eye
as fatreg said, the cops should be informed.
let them handle it
they may prove better
Posted by brownlad007
Ok 1st of all, Anyone here is welcome to come visit me. Just let me know who you are via pm or msn and you can "threaten" me in person whenever you like, we'll see how brave you are when your not infront ofyour computer
2. Luke, Alec and many other people put orders in with me and knew that i did not have physical stock of the items. This all went horribly wrong and i have also made a large loss on this deal.
3. I can do nothing at the moment, as i said, NOTHING, except for constantly trying to contact the supplier and recieve updates.
Luke and Alec, you both know i update you on what happens everyday. I recall someone on here saying that i take a relaxed approach to this situation :s . How would you know that? Just because i dont speak to you.
Hopefully this situation will be sorted soon and i dont see any reason to explain myself to members on here other than the involved.
Also, go to the police if you wish, they are there to deal with real crimes, ive tryed calling them for problems before and they told me to contact trading standards. Since no contracts or legal documents where signed by u 2, it will be of no help at all.
MONEY WILL BE REFUNDED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
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Posted by Alec
Yep, we're still having problems.
Bav promised me the money by friday, said he'd certainly have it by then.
Surprise surprise, no money. Now everytime I ask him about it, he sends me shitty voice clips over msn of eminem music.
Posted by fatreg
quel surprise...
you been to the po-leece yet Alec?
fatreg
Posted by ÈL ® ö B ì Ñ
To the top.
Posted by Evil Eye
Time to report cops and get it sorted out
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Posted by haynesycop
I would have to agree i think both Luke and Alec have been more than patient, it has been well over a month, get in contact with the police and citizens advice.
Posted by fatreg
Do you know his address?
if so send a letter to Mr and Mrs Brownlad..
if they have any control over their son they will get it sorted for you..
fatreg
Posted by ÈL ® ö B ì Ñ
Get some mates, and go up there.
Effective.
Posted by Evil Eye
hehe
@fatreg you mean parent control. right?
Posted by solidsingh
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not a good choice whilst im around
brownlads trying his best to get the refund from the supplier , what more can he do, he cant pull the money out of thin air
Posted by Evil Eye
interesting thing...
why doesnt brownlad reply?
i always see solidsingh replying on behalf of him
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in roundabout terms yeah...
fatreg
Posted by solidsingh
brownlads a good friend of mine and im against violence, i wont let anyone "bring their mates" to his residence
Posted by Evil Eye
OOOH! I see...
if hes SUCH a good friend of you, then you must help him pay off the money he owes to the guys...
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