Posted by pow1990
As the title says...
That was one of the main reasons why i came on here:(
wish someone could start that up again that was soo interesing
pow
Posted by govigov
ditto, i miss it a LOT !!
Posted by Evil Eye
me too
Posted by masseur
rather than moaning about it, you're all welcome to contribute and post interesting mobile related news items that you find
Posted by BobaFett
I miss the responsible person for it... And i am sure u read this my dear friend, so **** *!
Posted by upper
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I dont think thats right thing to say, as a service esato should continue to update there news updates all the time if they have a problem then they should sort it put asap, its not the members responsibility to hunt down news.
Posted by masseur
well, the previous newswriter was a member who regularly posted news, ganied respect for that and then was appointed official newswriter
there is no reason why
a) the general membership cannot post news OR
b) the next newswriter cannot find his path in the same way as the last
either way its generally been a member driven activity as none of the moderators "work" for Esato and we are really just members too
If I see something interesting I tend to post it and other people tend to do the same, its just not in the same high volumes that it used to be
Posted by slattery69
my understand was esato was a forum. created by one person but every person here creates and contributes to the forum.
i see no reason why all of the memebrs cant report news like massuer say.
these been plenty of news stories since axxxr left boba and whizzkid been 2 who ive noticed have posted many news storys
so the rest of us can do the same if we so wish
Posted by Sammy_boy
Mind you, I've recently created a couple of 'newsy' threads, and so far no-one's replied!
Maybe I'm not as good at it as some people were!
Posted by *Jojo*
. . . I guess nothing BEATS the original
'Hope he'll be back ! I just hate to see 'selected' old members LEAVE with very unacceptable reasons 
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Posted by shaliron
How about we still continue as members to keep posting news arcticles and maybe get a moderator, like you massuer, to decide on whether it is suitable for posting up on the main page?
Posted by masseur
yep, I've said I'm happy to do that
Posted by sailaab
@Upper- Its not members 'responsibility' ehh :-o ! Bro then you haven't got the ethos of this place! Cant say beyond that . . . . . . . . . .@Sammy Ol Man- Hold on n Keep Up the Effort Buddy.. Gandhi started off Solo too .. .. .. .. But then as Upper feels (except Laffen, who by virtue of Starting Esato- is first an Owner) not U, not Masseur, not Boba, not Whiz, not Slattery, Not JoJo, Not Nobody is 'responsible' ya! "Not My Job" :( ? Lets just dig into a free Site, a cess pool of info on the platter..
Posted by GotSkittles
lol me too
Posted by leeboy13
i personally read the begining of this thread in a very different manner to masseur etc.... i too miss Axxxr's news post... others have tried and quite frankly i havent found them any where near as informative... the way in which they were produced before was excellent!
(and i really aint knocking others attempts, i just think it was done so well before, its almost impossible to top.... )
I feel this not as a moan, but as a vote of confidence for axxxr, he did a great job and im sure he'll be happy to know hes still missed...
The problem with posting our own news is teh copyright infrigments we can sometimes cross, i for one donot know the LAws on this one
Posted by max_wedge
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Well said Sailaab! Spot on.
Leeboy
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The problem with posting our own news is teh copyright infrigments we can sometimes cross, i for one donot know the LAws on this one |
I think it's actually like you are just quoting it, not claiming it as your own work or making money from it. So it might be alright. I think to be proper, one should quote the source as well as the news story when posting news stories.
Posted by masseur
no, its not alright to just copy it here, even if you post a link to the original
for example, here is the BBC Copyright Notice where it is made clear that any copy is only for personal non-commercial use. This would not therefore include posting it up on another site.
Most online sites have such a notice and even if they do not explicitly state this, it will be implied by some other means such as a simple copyright statement etc
some sites state that you can paraphase their text, but sometimes they even limit how much can be paraphrased.
its a complicated area and generally its best to put a few words of your own and link people to the full details
press releases, on the other hand, are perfectly ok to reproduce because that is their purpose.
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Posted by leeboy13
hence why people miss teh old news... coz it was done properly and legally
its not a moan mate
if anything its to understand better of how we possibly could all comtribute the proper way
Posted by masseur
I know you're not moaning and I miss it too, but there it is and we have to move on.
people probably got lazy because of the good job being done before but I can see that some good effort is starting to be put in by other people now
Posted by Krubach
I fully agree with masseur.
Mods here are just members as we are. The only difference is their increased responsability and effort.
If people miss axxxr and his news, why don't you take the iniciative a work as axxxr did, or you will only do it if you want the "news editor" title?
I own a website with a small forum in it, and i get to the conclusion that people are always trying to be the first and/or get something in return if they do something.
This is why we can call Esato a community, because everybody give their contribution without expecting anything in return.
Bottom line:
If you don't do it, why should others do it?
Posted by *Jojo*
About those 'copyright' issues . . . even some images are prohibited (copyright) to be uploaded here as it has been an issue before . . . eg: Playboy Playmates and . . . Superman
but they are not celfone related to start with 
but I was informed by the CEO then . . .
Posted by max_wedge
It's a complicated area where answers aren't always clear. I've seen many posts on esato where peeps have cut and paste, and somtimes with no link to the original story. That's why I said AT A MINIMUM, one should quote the source, and link to it as well if possible.
You are allowed to legally quite material under fair use provisions in many cases:
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The following purposes are considered suitable Fair Use:
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http://www.benedict.com/Info/Law/FairUse.aspx (taken from the Copy Right Act, Fair Use section 107.)
Posted by whizkidd
I had posted some articles the week after axxxr had left...but noticed that many others were doing the same as well....to the extent that the forum was almost "spammed"!
I am not criticsizing any one but i thought it would be better if one person posted the article and so, I stopped..now i see that the other guys have stopped as well!
It would be better if someone who is readdy for the job comes forward and posts stuff.
Posted by Evil Eye
its time to lock this topic
Posted by masseur
why?
the discussion has evolved into one about members posting news items and the issues surrounding that
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Posted by sailaab
I am indeed sorry that you are offended
(and that I chat foolish ,rubbish) AND that I dont walk the talk nor have my facts rite.. I ought to be more careful and will try to be
.. .. .. .. ..Anyway, it'd give some reprive IMO now that axxxr is back summarar'ly.. #
@masseur- One doesn't Question the Evil Eye
if Evil Eye wishes a Topic iz to be locked.. its to be locked.. simple azzat Hail Evilitler !!