Posted by sapporobaby
Great post Blunden and right on the mark. Creating software to run today's new phones is not easy, and will result in bugs. The difference is that some people do nothing but look for bugs and then complain about them or they try the same procedure over and over until a bug appears and then complain about it.
Posted by pdub
This phone is slowly annoying the hell out of me.
I cant send text messages now. One will get through and the rest just say failed.
So to answer the above question.
I can make calls. I can take photos. But i'll be f**ked if i can send text messages.
Posted by sapporobaby
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It is probably not your phone. It is your network provider.
Posted by SE Rules
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Or using sapporobaby's most commonly used piece of advice....just get a women, talk to a tree and everything will comr right in the end! lol
Cheers
Posted by rockygali
seriously... these last posts is making me laugh... if only you guys were seen on TV.. you prolly replace three stooges... dont get me wrong but the discussion is a reality indeed...
people whine with small bugs... and make a big thing out of it... and tells the whole world how bad the product is... BAD! very bad! its very UNFAIR!
someone sez that as long as you can make calls, send an SMS, retrieve them properly, then your phone is functioning, which is true... then these camera, FM radio, media player are just but add ons to that device.... which make it more versatile in some point... well as long as you can use these features properly its quite good then.. right?
but whats best is... even these extra features crack up sumtimes... throws you tantrums... hey! does your PC dont throw tantrums at you sometime? its just but normal for devices such as these... as ive said whats the best part is that you can wait for the company to release updates for these later known minor shmoes in order for you not to throw tantrums at them. And you can do these things at the comfort of your own home. youll never have to drive miles away to the nearest service center.
so minus the hanky panky.... GUYS!
have done everything to satisfy their customers for the past year... dont yak! just wait!
so for conversation's sake! if you really had enuff of your K800. REPLACE IT! if itll bring comfort in your heart! for cryin out loud get a replacement! not another
phone please! so that you will not end up yaking back at this forum! sheeesh!
Posted by obentou
chris (even though that's my name, haha) - Don't mention horse manure about getting a life. We all have one. That stuff has nothing to do with the phone... no offense, though.
I can make calls and do whatever - it's just what I paid for. Five bills for something like this with my call log screwing around isn't what I want.
For those who can live with the bugs - you can just ignore us ranters. You're happy, so just don't pay attention. I'm just slightly unsatisfied with an expensive product.
Anyway, these bugs don't really bother me... I'm just dissapointed at SE for this amount of bugs - which I was trying to say from the last post.
Let's just hope for an update soon.
Edit: Compared my friend's K750i to my K790i today... realized how much big of a diff the K790i is... I've learned to appreciate the upgrade a bit more... haha.
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Posted by JK
Hi im getting pissed off with my phone, nav4all's not working...
Is it a firmware thing?
Mines is r1ce001....
Please help..
Posted by vanity
just noticed today..
while playing Lumines games.. the controls doesnt respond every each time a message is coming.. hehe... never had this problem with w800..
try to confirm with other games please..
Posted by Daisun
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ooo a new firmware?
/edit nvm i read the first post.. its only vodafone branded
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Posted by jasond
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Take a deep breath, my friend, your retaliation to such feedback, however true, is becoming equally distracting.
Advising people to 'get some fresh air' will perhaps do very little in remedying whatever perceived situation there may be.
@obentou, kalleboo
Thanks heaps for pointing out the knack to storing ringtones on the phone's memory! I was so frustrated that I couldn't find an easy work-around, but you've both helped me immensely. It is a shame that we can't apply this same technique to the read-only 'Greeting' file, as it still shuffles (on my firmware at least), but a vast improvement!
Out of interest - Another minor bug find for verification, and to possibly be added to the list if considered worthy:
When editing a contact, scrolling between name and various numbers affects the positioning of the icons beside the information (they shift up and down, oddly). This could never inconvenience anyone, but I reckon if I were responsible for improving firmware's, it's one of those things that I'd like to hear about.
Another handy feature I just found out:
When setting a new theme, the phone thinks to ask you if you would like to retain the custom wallpaper or not. Thoughtful!
Posted by obentou
Hey I also have a Q... although not firmware related.
For you people who wear jeans, does putting the K790i / K800 minus a case let dust into the joystick and screen? Anyone experience dust seeping in so far? Thanks.
Posted by jasond
I find the joystick gets very dusty easily. Easily cleaned, mind you. Unsure of any performance drawbacks.
My screen has very very minor bits of dust towards the edges. 3 weeks old and a taste of things to come no doubt.
I'd rather use the phone how it's meant to be used, attract a bit of dust, rather than hide it in some kind of case were the beauty of the design is never truly seen.
Posted by sapporobaby
For the love of all that is electronic, do not keep it in your pants pocket. It is a dust under the screen generator.
Posted by prabu
Hi Warner,
Why dont you add K790i firmware details as well,
I have K790i purchased in India and the details are as follows:
R1CC003
prgCXC1250477_GENERIC_EV R1CC003
EROM: R3A011
prgCXC1250582_EROM
_DB2020_EVITA_FOTA
_SIMLOCK_FLAFLA_SIB
LEY_SEMCUSB
LCD SW versions
Main display
Current: 200604051
Camera SW versions
Camera
Current: 2.4
ITP SW version
CXC 125 0413 R1E
Customization
CDA102568/110 R4A
cxc1250491 R1CC003
S_ASIA_LEVAN
Memory Stick:
CDA102715_1
Content version
PA24
Memory Stick: R1A
Java SW version
7.1
Text revision:
AG
Update service SW
UA version:
CRH1069179 R3B015
2006-04-26 08:20
Posted by mroach
R1EB004 is coming out next week. The changelog is about 40 pages long.
Posted by sapporobaby
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Of course you can verify this and provide details. Not saying that you are not honest, but a more convincing post would include info, don't you think?
Posted by mroach
I can't copy and paste the whole changelog, but of the Esato list of bugs, these are fixed:
- Chinese firmware only - Changing the settings to display a large clock (Settings / Display / Clock Size / Large) causes an extremely small clock to be displayed when using a 24 hour clock. The clock displays correctly when using the 12 hour am/pm time format.
- Selecting 'Settings / Calls / Manage Calls / Accept Calls / Only from list' only blocks those calls whose number is present in the phonebook. All unknown numbers are automatically accepted.
- Key sounds, if enabled, can fail after a period of time (possibly after an alarm has gone off)
- Cannot send emails to some SMTP servers which don't require validation (it appears that the email client tries to send blank login records to the server)
Posted by Vercetti
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Who is your source?
Posted by obentou
What the hell? Sounds interesting. But my hopes aren't up... =S
Posted by sapporobaby
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Do you do anything other than whine and lament about your phone? If it is so terrible, take it back. WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT HERE WAITING. Man you sound like a very immature individual. Get over it dude.
I am not trying to pick a fight with you but can you give the constant negativity a rest. Trust me I will there right along side of you if this is not resolved in a few weeks time, but I would rather have a bug free patch than a dodgy one. Let SE get it fixed right the first time.
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Posted by obentou
I'm not complaining at all. I'm just surprised. You're just the one bitching at me.
Posted by sapporobaby
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Dude, as I said, I am not trying to pick a fight with you but if you go back and look at most of your posts, as well as a few othesr, they comprise a complaint-fest. Mwarner was nice enough to start this thread which started out with bugs and issues and turned into a complaint burial ground with you and a select group of others doing most of the complaining. And yes, I and a few others have expressed how annoying it is getting. Like I also stated, there is nothing you, nor me, nor anyone can do to make SE hurry up and post an update to repair the outstanding bugs. The key difference is that not every post we tend to post is aimed at expressing our displeasure. If having the k800i is really that big a hassle and disappointment, why don't you take it back, save yourself some heart ache and the rest of us from hearing how "disappointed" you are. You act like your k800i is the only one going through these growing pains. We are all in the same boat.
How about this, complain away. I will not comment again. I think after a review the facts speak for themselves.
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Posted by obentou
I probably won't be complaining anymore either. It's just how the way life with this phone goes, so might as well live with it. Although you may not have liked it, the thread's nature guarantees some posts with people complaining. In my opinion, its a F/W thread, and people complain about the bugs to point them out. Although the complaint factor could be left out, well, it's hard to especially for a device so expensive.
Hope that the R1CE004 or whatever firmware somebody mentioned is real. Can't wait.
Posted by sapporobaby
@obentou
You misunderstood. I am with you in regards to wanting new f/w. Hell complain away and I will be right there with you if they do not get it right when they release it. However, it appears that something is in the works and it should not be much longer if the post from the other person is viable. However the fact that he will not post his link or his source makes his info highly suspect.
Posted by 87ers
So which firmware is currently the most stable? I tried to go thru this thread but it was mostly people's complaints so i gave up.
Posted by jasond
With only really one firmware out, that would be my pick for most stable
But if it is true that a new firmware will be out in a week, then maybe hold your breath for that one.
@mroach
Can you please provide a link to the PDF you quoted from, host the full list somewhere, or create a new thread where you paste all changes?
People won't mind. Cheers.
Posted by aremaboy
It's been a week now and my R1CB001 CHINA hasn't crashed at all. It's all of sudden a very stabile firmware..just checked SEUS and mine is still the latest. Hm..
Posted by >500
new firmware coming out this week........
Posted by aremaboy
How do you know it's not a rumour? Any link?
Posted by >500
I just know
nah, saw it on howardforums, look here:
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=988429
guessing the guy works at se or is associated with them in some way
Posted by Vercetti
Nice I hope it will be available soon.
Posted by [CC]RebelsAd
Just a note that the link you posted above leads to a post by MRoach about a 30 page changelog. MRoach posted the same details here as he / she did in the linked post but in both has said he is unable to post the changelog or link to the original file.
As he / she is the only person i have seen discussing the release and changelog of the new firmware i wont hold my breath but only time will tell. Just dont get your hopes up guys and girls in order to avoid the huge volume of moan posts if it doesnt get released next week.
RA.
Posted by altemyr
The numbering of that release, "R1EB00" is a bit strange IMHO. What happened to R1DXX? There is a huge step in revision numbers missing, from R1CF. And the number ending with 00 does not make sense either, since it's supposed to end with a sequence number starting at 1, 01, or 001.
The major release numbering is R1, R2, R3, etc, Minor releases in between majors are R1A, R1B, R1C, etc, until R1Z, and then it continues with two chars, R1AA, R1AB, R1AC, etc. and between each minor release, there are adjustment levels like R1A01, R1A02, R1A03, etc, very similar to the more common 1.2.3 version notation. (If you wonder what the R stands for, it's for "Released". Before the version is released, it's "P" instead, like P1CF001)
And I don't believe that K800 and K610 share the same firmware.
So, sorry, but I think this is nothing but a hoax.
Posted by jasond
Great info, altemyr. Most interesting, thanks.
Posted by aremaboy
Hmm, R1CB001 is the best, then. Why thinking of a new R1EB00 something when it's simply a cheap rumour..anyway 30 pages changelogs? Are they trying to change K800 to K900? Lol..
Posted by hansen
Regarding adding pictures to Blogger:
I can confirm that neither rotating picture in file manager or in PhotoDJ will make it possible to upload it as vertical on Blogger. It kind of limits the fun of photo blogging, as I see it.
Please add this on bug list! Thanks.
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Posted by obentou
Perhaps a bunch of numbers / letters were skipped since its a huge release. Well, hope it is anyway. This phone is in dire need for an update.
By the way, anybody know when K790a will be released?
Posted by Ghostbuster
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Posted by CyberVisitor
For the last two weeks I've been getting an error checking for new firmware (using the phone). It says something about not finding the Sony Ericsson server. It worked before... anyone with the same problem?
Posted by sapporobaby
@CyberVisitor,
I have been going out there off and on for the last few weeks, with earlier over the weekend being the latest time and things seemed to be working fine. Maybe they are putting up the upgrade.
Posted by shazzydoosh
Hey,
Im not sure if this is a firmware bug, but all my default applications and games are no longer on my phone. I even checked with myphone explorer and they are definately gone. The problem is when I try to install a game or app, it says "operation failed". I have loads of memory on the phone and the stick, so that isn't the issue. Have also tried a master reset. Anyone any ideas???
Posted by knightfal76
Hi. Anyone having Bluetooth problems? I tried to print a picture on my Samsung SPP-2040B printer via Bluetooth, but no go. Sent the pic to my W900i and sent it from this, everything ok. Also does why not higher video resolution? My w900i takes video 320'240, the K800i only 176'144, why is this? They should open their eyes and make higher resolution video.
Posted by slands
Hi,
I recently got a K800i (won it in a competition, so it is unbranded and not tied to any network). The firmware version is R1CA018, which does not match any of the "official" versions listed at the start of this thread. Does anyone know what this version is? Is it a preliminary version of some sort? I have only seen one other reference to it.
I tried running SEUS, but it reported that my phone had the latest version!
Just wondering if it is worth updating to R1CB001.
Slands
Posted by presto
Why is it when I have the handsfree plugged in, when somebody calls me it plays it out through the phone and not the handsfree earphones?
And I do have Handsfree declared at accessories in the handsfree profile.
Posted by blunden
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Posted by aremaboy
ATM, there is no K800i F/W at all uploaded on SEUS Server, so any attempt via SEUS always shows 'no update available'. R1CA018? Hm, what's that anyway? Are the listed bugs present in this R1CA f/w?
Posted by slands
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At least some of the bugs are present, so I suspect they all are - I have not used the phone much yet, so I have not tried out some of the features that are buggy.
slands.
Posted by sapporobaby
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Go: Settings --> Calls --> handsfree --> Bluetooth --> Incoming call
It will then pick the handsfree (if it is a BT hands free) and answer at the headset.
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Think I said it wrong =/ I meant the headphones that you attach, not an actual Bluetooth device. My bad
Posted by mokkawokka
Hi, new to the forum and a new owner of a K800i on O2-UK.
A couple of bugs I've noticed that I haven't seen previously in the thread (maybe to be added to the first post?)
- When the phone is in silent mode, it still makes a beep when you disconnect from a WAP internet connection. All other sounds but this appear to be disabled.
- When you have a 3G signal, the phone refuses to connect to the net via WAP, even if this is the selected internet account. It will connect via GPRS. When no 3G signal, it will connect via WAP no problem.
I already sent my first k800i back due to bugs, only after receiving my second one did I find this forum and find out about the SEUS. This handset has the same bugs as the first but I'm happy to now wait for the firmware update. I think the ability to update firmware is a good move by SE, having had Nokias up to now.
Cheers