Posted by hoximagic
Seems like I was a little bit to quick to draw conclusions on what caused my phone to freak out. The "view log" under "synchronization" doesn't work, but that didn't case my K800 to go nuts.
Instead it seems like selecting "weekly update" on at least one of the preset "RSS" feeds totally screws up my phone. I tried doing this on directly after a "Master Reset" on three of the preset "RSS" feeds, and that caused major problems on the phone. Only a "Master Reset" would make the phone work flawlessly again.
Can anybody else confirm this? Does it work on your K800?
Be warned; my K800 had to be reset using master reset and that will erase everything in phone memory!
[ This Message was edited by: hoximagic on 2006-07-10 19:04 ]
Posted by Ibinco
I think i ve found abug. Im on R1CB001 generic.
My Delivery reports dont come through. The SMS are delivered but i recieve no report. I checked the settings and its a 10000% on. Tried master reset ...nothing helps. Anyone else with this problem?
Posted by jcwhite_uk
What network are you on?
Posted by BAH434X
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http://www.wotanserver.com/detail.php?phone=19
Works and is very easy
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Im on Kpn Netherlands.
Posted by figgeo
After i tested the phone a bit i noticed that all java app works very slow, if i start the same app in my k750 and my k800 it is about 10 sec longer time to start up in my k800. What to do?
i think it started when i was in and looking in the rss reader, when i was in that folder the phone rebooted and workes strange since that. Anyone else got the same problems?
when i got in to the rss folder and press update the phone reboots, what to do?
Posted by spcdust
Bit of a simple question I'm sure you'll think....
I've got the Vodafone branded K800i which has removed the Sony Ericsson Remote Update Service in the Settings menu. When a future Vodafone firmware update becomes available how does one get hold of it and install it on the phone, or is that it, am I now consigned to the firmware pre-installed on the phone?
Surely Vodfone must periodically update their own firmware, I'm just curious how I get hold of it to ensure my phone is running the latest version. Does Vodafone send it out to their customer base via SMS (or similar) or will I be able to download it from Vodfone's/Sony Ericsson's web- site? I'm not that offended by the Vodafone branding so is it best to leave things as they are rather than force a generic firmware update onto the phone?
A few similar questions I know, thanks in advance for your help in answering my queries.
Nathan
Posted by hoximagic
@figgeo:
Sounds like the same prolem as I had. Did your K800 recover or did it require a "Master reset"?
Seems like the RSS reader is very buggy and that some operations will make the phone work slow or almost not at all.
Posted by figgeo
I did a master reset and now i works pretty well. Havent tested rss anymore,
Posted by leerichards
I'm having an issue with my phone in that the apps and games folders are no longer accessible after using the USB cable! Noted that a few other people on this forum are having exactly the same issue. Tried a master reset, no good.
Called SE and they said use the firmware update software to reflash the firmware. Even though I advised I didn't think the software did that, they said to try it anyway. Of course, it doesn't allow it.
I really don't want to send it back to 02 (I've had enough of messing about with them over the M2 card fiasco). Plus, it'll be a major hassle being without a phone.
I'm tempted to have a go with the WotanServer s/w to re-flash the firmware myself. Sensible idea or not? I suppose I could wait until the next SE firmware release and see if that solves it. Any advice?
Cheers,
Lee
Posted by mwarner
Fixed the incorrect CDA numbers in the first post.
Posted by TheWhizz_68
Unbranded UK (CDA102511/2) On my one matey
Posted by leerichards
My original 02 branded phone re-flashed to resolve a software issue now has the following CDA (presumably indicating unbranded)
CDA102511/2 R1A
Lee
Posted by Azt
3 branded Swedish(European?) K800i:
RICB001
CDA102511/70
Thinking of unbranding this one but I haven't seen someone with a 3 branded swedish phone yet...
-edit- lol, three years without a single post from me... I'll try to be more active now.
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Posted by mwarner
Thanks for the CDAs! Azt - sorry not to add your CDA. I only keep tabs of the UK CDAs i'm afraid. I can't easily verify the others!!
Posted by [CC]RebelsAd
Got this phone a few weeks back on Vodafone. I hate the branding but thankfully Davinci have now released v16.4 which supports debranding of the K800i. I cant get rid of the damn screen cover branding though which is a pain but ill live.
My first question is, which is the best region to flash my phone to in order to ensure my phone is one of the first to update via SEUS (As i know some regions have to wait longer than others to update). I live in the UK so i assume i need the following:
K800 R1CB001:EU1 CDA102511/2 (Generic UK)
Is that correct?
My second question is, has anyone else had complaints from people on the other end of the line in regard to echo? I have had three seperate people now tell me that the can hear an echo of themselfs and that they can hardly hear me speak. The problem seems to get a little better if i turn down the earpiece volume but they tell me its still there.
RA.
[RebEdit] BTW, the CDA for Vodafone UK is CDA102511/15 if you want to add it to the first post. If you want me to post the whole software info screen readout let me know.[/RebEdit]
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Posted by Danny CT
Hi Guys
Im New here but i got an Orange Branded K800i. I have seen that there have been no orange users posting so i thought i would give you some information.
Firmware Version: R1CB001
CDA: CDA102511/47
Quick Review: So far so good. Not had any problems that other users have had with the RSS or anything. There are a few things, however, that orange have removed in their customisation. Firstly, like vodafone, they have removed the update service. Secondly, they have removed the photo blogging function. I havent heard any comments on this so far so i don't know what it performs like. I was contemplating debranding it but i havent got any major issues with the orange branding at present.
Question: Has anyone found that with the camera in 'Fine' mode, the image is brighter and not as clear? Also i will post a sample photo and would like comments on if the quality is similar to yours.
Regards
Danny
(Both taken in 'Fine' Mode)
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Posted by mwarner
Thanks for the updated CDAs guys! Just missing 3 now!
> which is the best region to flash my phone to in order
> to ensure my phone is one of the first to update via SEUS
SEUS doesn't only take into account the CDA of your phone to determine which firmware to flash. Personally I would not change the CDA of your phone as you could end up with a phone that won't update via SEUS at all!
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If this is the case why does each network have its own CDA? I had assumed that the firmware and CDA needed to match in order for SEUS to work?
So if i flash the R1CB001 EU1 with changing the CDA will it update to non Vodafone firmware via SEUS when it becomes available?
RA.
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Which version of JBenchmark did you use for the test? Ill check mine to see if there is any difference between the generic unbranded firmware and the Vodafone specific release.
Also Davinci now supports K800i flashing so you may want to add it to the first post.
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Posted by SE Rules
Hey guys n girls,
Can anybody remeber how long after the K750 updated firmware was first released after the the phone was released, so that we can ,aybe guage how long it will be untill the K800 gets new firmware...
Cheers
Posted by mwarner
Around one month. The K750 was released on 16th of May, the buggy R1J was released on 13th June and fixed R1L was released on the 30th June.
How quick new firmwares are released depends on how buggy the previous firmware was. SE have done an excellent job with the K800 in that R1CB is incredibly stable for a first firmware - unlike, for example, R1A044 on the K750, which was prone to fairly frequent crashes.
Note that it was almost 3 months after the stable R1L came out on the K750 that R1N was released.
Posted by conzepth
One thing I would like to mention, is the sluggish sms"performance"..
I don't use t9, I just use multitap with the "joystick-down" trick for writing sms quickly. However, this phone just doesn't work using that technique. My old k750 had no problems what-so-ever. Example:
"I was up all night long" looks like this: "I was up alk nhgth kong". Multitapping is just too laggy. I notice the letter-selector in the top-right window hangs a little every now and then aswell, usually 4-5 times everytime I write a message.
To me, this seems like something which can be optimized by software. The buttons on the phone are good to use, although a little small.
Yes, I've doublechecked that my "technique" is in working order. ;)
Posted by chrisnewman
@ spcdust
If you want to check for updates for your Voda K800i just attach the supplied USB cable and use the Sony Ericsson Update Service.
Cheers
Posted by donutz
looks like davinci team have K800i support now.
However on their website they claim to have supported K800i since 13 July, which they clearly hadn't last week. Anyone want to give this a go and see if there are any differences with flashing on wotanserver?
Posted by mwarner
> "I was up all night long" looks like this: "I was up alk
> nhgth kong". Multitapping is just too laggy.
Although I don't use such antiquated methods of writing text messages myself (
) I too have sound typing SMSes to be less reliable than on the K750 and earler phones. It does seem that the phone can't keep up with the user if they type too quickly.[ This Message was edited by: mwarner on 2006-07-18 09:51 ]
Posted by chrisnewman
I've got a Voda K800i and have found no lag at all when typing SMS'es compared to my K750i. I've tried to type as quick as I can and no lag, it also tries to predict the next word sometimes as well.
I know Voda personalise their firmware to death but I've always found I don't encounter many of the issues experienced by other people. E.g The background hissing on K750i etc I never experienced, also battery life poor on some releases never happened to me. It was always released a month or so after the "Normal" release via SEUS so perhaps they do more thorough testing???
Posted by pinolo77
@chrisnewman
I think the better performance of branded version can also be explained with the fact that
has managed to create some sort of customizable areas (think about the fact that new themes also can change menu icons). This makes it possible for operators to customize in a less invasive way the looks of software, maintaining the stability of it.
I had an Orange branded K800 (up to half an hour ago
) and noticed that only small portions of the FW were actually branded. The main features were not.
So I suppose operators and manufacturers are reaching a good middle point.
I still like the original
design (both graphically as well as usability-wise) far better...
Cheers
Posted by mwarner
Updated the first post with the initial bugs found in R1CB001.
Posted by aremaboy
Hmm, SE doesn't learn much from the long K700, K750/W800 history of bugs..I had better wait several months to go to get K800..
Posted by masseur
thing is... its easy to make generalisations like that but if you wait months... you are losing months of perfectly good (actually great) usage of the K800
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Unless I'm very much mistaken...
reviews: i-mate V800 K700
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Posted by SE Rules
@aremaboy
Dude, like masseur said, you'll miss out. There maybe all these bugs, but if you don't use all the features all the time, you're unlikely to actually come across them. Anyways,
should release a firmware update within the next month or so, cause its getting to that point where people like us unearth the probs!
Get a K800, you won't regret it!
Cheers
Posted by conzepth
@ chrisnewman
"I've tried to type as quick as I can and no lag, it also tries to predict the next word sometimes as well. "
Well, I type pretty quickly, to be honest, maybe you're too slow? ;)
I don't know about any issues with T9 enabled, I'm speaking about multitapping only. It seems like the phone "hangs" a couple of milliseconds every now and then, causing it to not keep up with the multitapping on a single button. However, there are no problems when trying to reproduce the problem by pressing for example A and Z like "azazazazazazaz", it's only skipping letters/buttonpresses when pressing multiple times on the same button.
Also, a problem I've had since my k750i days, is when I recieve a message while doing some other thing, like playing around in the menues or whatever, I press the return-button, then go into the inbox via the sms-menu, write the message, send it, then hold the return-button to go straight to the "desktop"-screen, the "New message"picture sometimes pops up, even though I've already read and answered the message. Not a big deal, but I guess it's not that hard to fix for the SE-coders. ;)
Thanks for adding this problem in the first post, mwarner.
Posted by SE Rules
@mwarner
Shouldn't you have included the bug where people get a green line during video recording?
Cheers
Posted by mwarner
It is true that there are quite a few bugs listed on the front page. However, in every day use I would say that the K800 has the best initial firmware of any recent SE phone I have owned (i.e. T610, K700, K750 & K800). It has not actually crashed on me (unlike the K750, which crashed fairly regularly with R1A, and early T610 firmwares), has a much nicer UI than the K750, doesn't have the battery problems of the K700 and doesn't have the texting annoyances of the T610.
I think that people tend to think that the K800 is just a K750 with a better screen and a better camera. However, there are numerous more subtle improvements, e.g.
- The Media Player from the Walkman series
- Flight Mode support
- Mass Storage compatible, so you don't need drivers to access the contents of your phone (which is a massive improvement - finally you can show people your pictures without having to bring a set of drivers with you!)
- HTML compliant web browser
- RSS feed support, which is actually more useful than I would have anticipated
- Vastly improved, and much quicker, photo gallery
- Online Firmware Updates
- Much improved alarm handling (5 alarms, all of which can be reoccuring and have attached text or pictures)
- Copy and Paste functionality when writing text messages, MMS, email etc
- Icons next to your messages to show which ones you have replied to and which ones you haven't
I could go on. In my opinion the K800 is like an improved K750 with virtually all the niggles ironed out of it.
In case you hadn't guessed, i'm pretty pleased with it
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and quite rightly too.
As our main firmware details man, you really do present the K800 in the light in which it should be seen, and that was pretty much the point of my last post though not so eloquently put!
well done, not just for the post but for all your efforts in your firmware threads
Posted by mwarner
Thank you very much. Very kind of you to say so Masseur
Posted by darrengf
I agree. The k800 is not like the K750.
And to be honest the K800 has very little faults compaired to the k750.
Se Really did go to town on this phone and welldone to them.
Posted by chrisnewman
@conzepth
To be objective I have asked 3 other people who are ardent texters and none of them experienced any lag! Any other Voda firmware users experienced any lag?????????
Posted by SE Rules
Althouhg I'm on O2, I gotta say, I'm a pretty fast typer, and I notice no lag with the K800, in fact, I find it a smoother experience than with the K750....
Cheers
Posted by conzepth
Well, I send about 3000 sms every month, so it's pretty annoying when the phone is so sluggish when it comes to multitapping.. It has come to the point where I consider writing sms only via myphoneexplorer instead of using the buttons on the phone. I'm not the type to complain about everything just for the sake of complaining, but I find that this phone (in its current state) is no good for sms-writing, atleast when compared to the brilliant k750i. Maybe my phone is faulty?
I'm on an unbranded phone in Norway, by the way.
I'll try to test some more, and report whatever I find out..
cheers.
Posted by gareb
@mwarner
You right about K800. Me too been using T-68,T610,K700 and K750 and the best of them all right now K800.
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How does this work then? as every PC i have plugged my k800i in to has asked for drivers?
Posted by tomchadwin
@spud_work
Just refuse them all. It did that when I plugged mine in to two different machines, and I just said no to each of them. I assume it then just uses the normal XP memory stick driver. Only thing which might be confusing issues is that I still have the K750 drivers installed, but I am sure that's not it.
Cheers
Tom
Posted by mwarner
@spud_work
Tom is correct - you don't need to install these drivers if you only want to access the files on the phone. The drivers are required to access the phone's functionality, not the filing system.
In terms of the texting issue that a few of us are having, I have to admit that I am a little confused.
I personally have experienced far more SMS typing errors than I would deem to be normal - most notably the phone intermittantly not recognising one of the keypresses I have made. However, I have done a few tests and it seems that the phone can keep up with pretty much any typing speed - at least most of the time.
It seems to me either the fact that I (and others) have simply not got used to the phone's keypad yet, there is some hardware issue with our keypads or that the phone itself is not reading the keypresses.
If the latter is the case then I guess it might be down to the multitasking OS and the occasional UI 'freezes' that are experienced with the phone. The keyboard, I would assume, will have some sort of buffer independant of the OS. If this gets full before the OS can read it's contents then this would result in lost characters.
Note that all the above is just pure speculation - I don't know the details of how the hardware or software is designed in the K800!
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ENJOY Yeah i have noticed this. I have found that i have to zoom in then out again to sharpen the pic.
But apart from that no probs as yet....
Posted by mwarner
> the picture looks bit fuzzy then clears up a sec or 2 later???
This is intentional. The phone provides a low resolution, quickly rendered thumbnail of the picture so the user can quickly flip netween images without having to wait for a full resolution image to be rendered.
While the user is looking at the low resolution image, a high resulution image is rendered in the background and displayed in place of the low-res image as soon as it has been decoded.
This is another excellent feature of the K800. Compare the speed of flipping through the gallery of a K750 with that of a K800 and you will see what I mean - the lag is minimal.
Posted by spud_work
thanks to tomchadwin and mwarner for clearing up the issue in relation for using the k800 without drivers
Now, if only i could get opera mini to work correctly i would be 100% content. This is though, as you say, an excellent first firmware release and i am very happy with my phone
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Posted by jadler
Opera Mini works great for me, usually much better than the built in browser.
http://mini.opera.com/ from computer or phone. Advanced version works fine.
Posted by laffen
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On 2006-07-20 15:41:47, mwarner wrote:
> the picture looks bit fuzzy then clears up a sec or 2 later???
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Not true. When you capture a photo, the phone save the image as a JPEG file and this file consist of a large image and an internal 160 x 120 thumnail image. One JPEG file is acctualy two images. The small 160 x 120 image is not large enough to fill the K800 display and therefore looks blury while it renders the large image.
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True
Posted by spud_work
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unfortunately, it doesn't entirely work here. I've installed the latest version of opera mini on my SE k800i, however, i've come across a strange problem. If you google for a site from the homepage when you start opera mini you can't select yes or no for the application to access the internet, you get asked the question but the yes/no options aren't there so you have to go to a bookmarked page first as the yes/no option shows up fine for that.
Any suggestions?
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