Posted by jasond
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I don't know if this is the best outlook for all that is being done.
Sure there are some aspects of the firmware where SE no doubt have already made a strategic decision about and no amount of nagging will change.
But I think this is exactly what is currently being discussed: Discerning the difference between firmware bugs, and features (or changes) that users would like to see included.
So yes, I know I will continue to contact SE with regards to bugs I find on my handsets, I encourage everyone else to do the same.
It just makes sense. If I were selling a phone, and user upon user contacted me saying that there was background noise in the radio player. I'd say "Gosh - there's background noise in the radio - an oversight on my part", get it tested, then get it fixed.
If people contacted me saying it would be better if it came with a spa bath, I'd say "That's probably not going to happen right now."
Sure, M4A may not be a spa bath by a long shot, but I'm sure you can see what I'm getting it. It comes down to understanding how a company's strategy works.
I don't feel that proclaiming 'they won't listen' will get anyone anywhere. But then that's just what I think.
Posted by >500
i remember contacting sony ericsson and provided them with a link to the m600i firmware bugs thread link from here and mobilereview. They said they would pass it on to the correct department and for people to let them know of problems which they may have.
But i dont know if they really done anything with the links.......
hopefully a new k800 firmware will be out asap, the p990i already has a new doesnt it, and that just sort of came out....
Posted by sha99y
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That was 1 reason I sold my N80, I had to go to a Nokia Service senter to upgrade and that was over 30 miles away...plus it took an age for them to get the new firmware.....
Posted by sapporobaby
Jasond and Sha99y hit the nail on the head. To continually complain, and complain, and whine will not get you a f/w upgrade any faster nor compel SE to fix bugs. SE for the most part fixes bugs better than Nokia or any of the other phone venders. Name a vender that has an OTA software update feature, or has their shops centrally located to have work done on the phones. Sure SE release phones that are not perfect but so do the other manufactures. The very same people that make it their life's ambition to complain about everything would be the same ones complaining and whining that SE is not releasing new phones fast enough. These type of people will never be pleased no matter what. I too am waiting for an upgrade to the phone but unlike many hear, I am not complaining or whining or questioning the quality control at SE. I realize that making software for phones that have media players, cameras, RSS News readers, web browsers, etc.... is not that easy and to have it all work flawlessly first time, every time is like searching for the perfect woman. The thing to do is to write your bug reports, submit them to SE and hope for the best. The shelf life of most phones is 6 months with new ones replacing them almost as quickly as they come out. The k800i will be old hat in a month or two and for sure I will get the latest and greatest but I also know that with this comes risks and I am willing to accept this.
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Posted by busynow
I got K800 on 15 aug from dubai
the firmware is
R1CF001
Camera : 2.4
video call camera :2.3
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Posted by vanity
One more thing...
Comment on Events. Everytime i got a missed Call there is a new event.. then what? no shortcut directing to call logs.. once i viewed who missed a call on the NewEvent and press exit.. missed call icon still present...
i think they should put shortcut to call log on that newEvent of missedcall.. cheers!
Posted by farkasg
Press C not exit... The missed call icon will disappear.
Posted by aremaboy
See, the new K800i is out with R1CF001. It's simply a matter of time it's available on SEUS. Or maybe R1CF001 is suspended as more bugs are lately found? Hmm, be patient..patient and patient, everyone.
Posted by obentou
For the call list bug, I had to do a wipe of all the entries in the list instead of a full reset. This solved the problem.
I wouldn't recommend to anyone to fiddle around with their call log (ie. deleting entries, etc.) as I believe that led up to the blank entry and ultimately ceased the function of the call log.
Now if only FAR / MPE would work on the K790i. That would be great.
A firmware fix should be due just about around now... it's been nearly a month... plus a phone in high demand like this shouldn't be floating around bugged so heavily.
I'm not too sure if the K750i was like this when it first came out, but it was bugless to me when I first got it. I didn't get it right when it came out, but at the R1K001 stage. I went back to the K750i's F/W review page and hopefully we will all see a huge firmware release similar to the development over there to fix these huge bugs.
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Posted by utsavtalwar
i here everyone talking about one bug or the other but i being an ex w550i user am really disappointed with the sooo low volume on my k760i with the hpm-70 as compared to 550i and even the k750i..
even when comparing with the k750i its a hell lotta difference in the sound volume and quality..
the speaker sounds still doesnt bother much but i just bought a 1gb m2 and my music doesnt sound as loud and good as i had expected from se previous experience.
please se seriously bring the sound back
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
I would of thought there would be a newer firmware version of R1CB001 for sim free phones/o2 by now.
Posted by utsavtalwar
sorry for the error i was talkin bout my k790i nd not the k760i which dzn evn exist
Posted by vanity
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Thank you gave me idea! but i dont want deleting it.. i just want it VIEWED status.. how was dat
Posted by vanity
***UPDATES on My Bug List:*** version 2.5 *******************************************************************
1.) CONTACTS / Sender number in inbox:
- The number is treated differently but i think should.. coz my w800i and other nokia fones is not like this
i got message from
0063 927 1234567
+63 927 1234567
0 927 1234567
2 927 1234567
They were treated as different numbers now.. not like before that only last 7 digits are recognized... ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ONE?? xiao..
2.) MESSAGES:
- Not a bug though i have it on my w800i.. Cancel Sending option when sending messages..
you cannot click fast and go to outbox just to cancel specially when the message is short,..
- icon animation not so pleasing, hope to get back my w800i animations
They replaced it with cows! nyahahaha wakokoko
3.) EVENT POP UP:
- Everytime i got a missed Call there is a new event..
then what? no shortcut directing to call logs.. once i viewed who missed a call on the NewEvent and press exit..
Missed Call Icon still present...
i think they should put shortcut to call log on that newEvent of missedcall.. cheers!
***UPDATES on My Bug List:*** version 2.0 *******************************************************************
1.) ENTERTAINMENT:
-There is a shortcut for DemoTour, i transfer the files on my VIDEO folder to M2, the the DemoTour says files has been deleted. I tried putting the DemoTour files back on the fone. Still demotour Shortcut on the entertainment doesnt find the file. it says deleted How could i put it back>??
- Set LCD to 50% brightness. When you received a text message it seems that brightness increases. (Normal???)
- Very slow on mark Several both in sim / phone contacts
- Mark Several selection mis aligned the checkboxes.. (Please verify)
2.) OPTION Under ADVANCE in CONTACTS
- Try to backup your contacts in M2 Then delete one contact on your phonebook then Restore from M2.
It will delete ALL your contacts cause it will fail restoring. whew ... but tried to restore again then its back..
3.) BATTERY:
Try to notice the percentage and the status bar, are they synchronized? JUST WONDERING... how about yours?
***UPDATES on My Bug List:*** version 1.5 *******************************************************************
Had my k800i last week R1CB CDA singapore
VIDEO:
- video mode during recording a green line at the side of screen.
- Sometimes thumbnail of video doesnt appear
MMS:
- Preview with video doesnt play the sound (frequently occur/needs rebooting)
- mms on outbox that is being send on a dead signal doesnt continue when signal comes (restarting the fone will continue sending)
KEYPAD CLICK/TONE Sound
- click/tone sound of keypad frequently goes off / was gone.
this also affects my message tone, cant playback video, cant play sound files i encounter this when creating/recving/sending mms (i just noticed.. not sure which, but occurs very often)
CLOCK SETTINGS:
- Small/large clock in 24HOUR time format
BATTERY:
- battery consumption only 24hours? (mms and text only about 5min calls)
- hard to open battery cover (not on firmware hehehe)
BUTTONS
- "ZoomIn" on camera was on lower button unlike my w800i which is same as increasing the volume. (did they change it for reason?)
- multitap fast typing problem sometimes letters were not pressed
PHONEBOOK:
- phonebook doesnt show the icon symbol.. (:-) / :-| etc. ... )
EXTRAS
- cant remember where but i found a garbled background of help/info message.
- turning on Bluetooth on shortcut sometimes fails to load/ or the icon just doesnt show up?..
ADD on wish list
- RED TORCH to enable during VideoCapture
- New/Customizable skin for music player (default seems very pale/bare)
- Video/Image capture function for 2nd camera is missing
- Video Size Settings (need more for mms sending the 128x96 was gone)
- "Best PIC" setting should have timer gap interval settings. (This is just like the burst mode of my w800.. not so good add ons unless they add interval settings)
- Add .3gp replace on VideoCall (Image replace was so good cheers)
- Flash Theme / menu support
- Turning off sent items.
- Log for Calls (missed call details: Time stamp on all missed call of 1 contact)
Posted by 87ers
So does that mean the SE K800i still has a lot of bugs that remain unfixed by firmware upgrades? Darn, coz I thought it'll all be fixed by the time I get mine
Posted by >500
the bugs will be fixed by firmware updates.
Though, the k800i models being sold now (people who buy today for example) MAY have the new firmware installed on them, but i dont know, i got mine a couple weeks ago and its the same many have on here.....
Posted by 87ers
doesnt really matter what version it comes with tho, coz its not that hard to get the latest firmware. The problem is whether the latest firmware still has a lotta bugs
Posted by >500
the new version may or may not have bugs. But eventually, one version will be perfect, well almost 'perfect'....
Posted by 87ers
true, but I just want that perfect/almost-perfect version to be ready before the end of this week, which is when I'll be getting my K800i. Wow, you seem to be submitting new posts even faster than I am
I just want my phone to stop looking semi-transparent. (refering to the K600i at the left hand side)
Posted by >500
just change the k600i in your profile under 'my account'. Choose the phone you want.
Your k800i will be fine, the bugs arent major. Mine is almost perfect right now....
Posted by 87ers
yea, i hope so..
and about the phone picture thing, i think it slowly materialises with more posts submitted. I guess you havent had to go thru this in ages since you've already reached the 419 mark
Posted by >500
yeah, mine was like yours, though when i changed the phone it went normal. I joined here in june or something, andi have this moany posts already....any way back on topic....
hopefully your phone is ok when you get it, hopefully se release a new version soon, i want my volume louder on everything....
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It won't be deleted from missed call list, but from events..... Just like message-events....
Posted by pdub
Ine thing i'm finding annoying is the time it takes to actually click 'View' when you have a new SMS. Its as if its hanging then the View appears for you to click. Petty but annoying.
I find it a bit slow compared to my k750 tho, general menu selection is a bit slow.
Orange Uk branded btw.
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Posted by sapporobaby
Question:
Why the continual comparison of the k800i to the k750i? They are two different phones other than they being produced by SE. It is apples and oranges as far as I am concerned, IMHO. You have a regular GSM phone and a 3G phone with many more features. It seems to be sour grapes.
Posted by obentou
Heh I'm also wondering, why isn't the K790i incoporated into this thread as well?
Posted by Vercetti
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You can talk about about the K790i offcourse.
mwarner:
The main difficulty is that the K800 and K790 have different firmware revisions, which makes it difficult for me to keep up with the latest information and test for any bugs or fixes that have been discovered. As you may know, the K790 is not readily available in the UK.
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Posted by farkasg
Possible bug:
After every switch on the RSS icon appears on the top row, but I didn't set up any automatic RSS feed update. It disappears when I go to the RSS feeds.
Anybody?
Posted by aremaboy
My K800 problems:
1. Set 'Application' in the Activity Menu. When your wallpaper is animated, it takes so loooong to open it-almost 8-10 sec. With still wallpaper, it's almost instant-a second.
2. Create a shortcut on navigation key up. After rebooting, it's ALWAYS back to default, i.e. Video Player.
3. White screen many times during navigating. But pressing the right sofkey returns it to normal..
Posted by aremaboy
Other problems, sorry for continuous posts, I'm at Opera Mini..:
4. Clock size bug..chinese f/w
5. Opera Mini- searching the net ONLY in the 1st launch needs to press Activity Menu to get OK option.
6. Never having successful blogging. Operator-dependence? I'm in Indonesia..
7. Invisible text editing in blog creation due to the default 'pale yellow' color background. It's theme-related.
Posted by aremaboy
Other problems, sorry for continuous posts, I'm at Opera Mini..:
8. Lens cover is too loose..why not like K750 tighter one?
9. Extremely low message status report tone and camera shutter tone..
10. Autofocus needs longer time..
11. Animated highlight image in Activity Menu section isn't supported.
12. Occasional beeps during radio. Just realized..
Posted by aremaboy
Other problems, sorry for continuous posts, I'm at Opera Mini..:
13. With some animated .gif wallpapers, the sofkeys are 1-2 seconds slower in response when displaying it. It's hard to notice anyway..
14. Average quality of sound-tends to lose bass-by using HPM-60.
15. Scratches everywhere after 20 days of usage..
16. Crash 6 times when navigating contact list..it doesn't now..I don't know why?
Posted by vanity
INTERMITTENT:
just found out last night that my battery icon is still charging/moving a one bar status. while i checked the percentage is already 100% grrrrrrr...
i removed the charger and put back.. it did stop and still 100% in status and also full in icon.. but BatteryFull Indicator didnt appear.. is there an indicator??
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Posted by Vercetti
@aremaboy
Why can't you just edit your posts?
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Phone history: T20e, T100, T630, K600i and now K800i
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Posted by vanity
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Click the icon edit under your post...
m wondering how to edit/put post with HTML codes.. is there an interface for editing/posting or should i do it manually??
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I got it.. thanks... so found new bug.. events of new message, i pressed C and it was deleted.. when i go to inbox, it is already unread message.. hmmm please confirm.. thanks dude!
Posted by vicelord
Hello mates,
How can I know the firmware version of my phone and other info regarding it......what secret keys to click....thanks
Posted by tomchadwin
Bug:
Watch full-screen video. Pick up incoming call. Video does not resume on hang-up (K750 did, as I recall).
Posted by mwarner
Updated the first post with the RSS icon always appearing on reboot issue. I have noticed it myself a number of times, but never thought to add it to my overview
Note that the other bug recently mentioned that wasn't on my overview (that the Up shortcut always reverts back to the Music Player after a reboot) could not be reproduced.
@vicelord
> How can I know the firmware version of my phone and
> other info regarding it......what secret keys to click....thanks
As always, see the first post.
Posted by vicelord
i'll stick to the firmware that was shipped with my phone until i see bugs as i operate my new fone........
Posted by pootle
Homescreen does not respond correctly, K800i, Orange UK.
When SMS message arrives homescreen shows "New Events (1)" selected. Pressing the joystick in does NOT open the message as it should. Moving the selection down one (to "Running Apps") then BACK to "New Events (1)" and pressing the joystick in DOES open the message.
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Posted by pdub
@ pootle.
It does work if you leave it a few seconds. But how annoying tho.
Posted by shanespencer
My Orange homescreen simply crashed my phone. Whenever I pressed the shortcut button, the phone locked up and the only solution was to remove the battery and replace it.
I flashed mine to the generic firmare and haven't looked back.
Posted by blunden
Thankfully I haven't noticed even half of the bugs listed here and I use the original firmware. One of the problems is that white screen sometimes when browsing, which seems to be fixed in R1CF001, too bad it's not on SEUS. I can live with it though, I still love my phone.
Posted by SE Rules
Can't say I've noticed this beeping sound using the radio... The only things that I've noticed is the green line during video recording and a looong delay after clicking Applications in the activity menu...
Cheers
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It used to, but no longer does on mine. I have switched to 'pop-up' rather than 'home screen' for new events which works fine, and you get sms sender photo id
Posted by vanity
@mwarner
Does it realy display a status of 70MB free on phone memory???
Please verify..
Posted by antz88c
mine at 71MB
R1CB001/060608/
Philippines
Posted by jasond
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This isn't a bug, the K750 also behaved like this. I find it handy, actually.
The activity menu is supposed to inform you of incoming alerts which have not yet been addressed. Pressing 'C' over a message in the activity menu is telling the phone that you are aware of the message and no longer need reminding of it, therefor it is safe to be marked as Read, but not erased.
It basically saves erasing a message that has not yet been read. The same as dismissing a call notification from the activity menu - it won't delete the details from the Call List.
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How do you do that?