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Posted by obentou
I doubt there will be much change. Seems like the drivers that run the MP3 on the K790i are the same as the K750i's so far. Can't wait till FAR Manager has support for CID49.


Posted by jasond
I will be interested to learn of any improvements in R1CF001, once enough people have re-flashed using Wotanserver.

Posted by jasond
Quote:

On 2006-08-14 17:47:51, obentou wrote:
As for the menu selection bug, ie. pressing a # and returning, it doesn't happen to me.
R1CC003.



I'm using R1CB001. After posting I played around with it a little more and can report that:

From the menu, when using the number keys to access options, and then returning by pressing the back key, the title will still read as 'Messaging' for the following options:

- Music Player (6)
- File Manager (7)
- Contacts (8), and
- Call List (#)

And on a separate bug - it's funny, but for some reason now when in the File manager, pressing keys won't bring up the alphabetical search, nor correspond with a folder.

I would also like to bring to the table: Noise in the Media Player

For me, heard only using HPM-70 headphones - pops and clicks between tracks, when the volume performs it's 'fade up/fade down' trick, excess clicks can be heard. The quality of audio during playback seems to be quick good, however.

And for interests sake: When I hook my K800 up to my car stereo, after a period of inactivity (say 30 seconds of no music, or calls) what I can only describe as a loud 'network searching' noise comes through the speakers.

It's at a regular beat, but what interests me most is that playing and exiting the media player will cause the noise to stop (for another 30 seconds or so). Strange! ...anyone?

Posted by vanity
@MWARNER
Thanks for starting this thread
hope to keep us updated

Had my k800i last week R1CB CDA singapore

Please verify and add to your first page bug list:

- video mode during recording a green line at the side of screen.
- Small/large clock in 24HOUR time format
- Sometimes thumbnail of video doesnt appear
- i always have a sound problem, my click/tone sound of keypad frequently goes off / was gone. this also affects my message tone, cant playback video, cant play sound files (i encounter this when creating/recving/sending(notsure which) mms)
- Preview MMS with video doesnt play the sound (frequently occur/needs rebooting of fone)
- battery consumption only 24hours? mms usage and text only. about 5min calls (is this bug? or batt prob, or just normal?)
- zoom in on camera was on lower button unlike my w800i which is same as increasing the volume. (did they change it for reason?)
- cant remember where but i found a garbled background of help/info message.
- multitap fast typing problem sometimes letters were not pressed
- phonebook doesnt show the icon symbol.. (:-) / etc. ... )
- mms on outbox that is being send on a dead signal doesnt continue when signal comes (restarting the fone will continue sending)
- turning on my bluetooth on shortcut sometimes fails to load/ or the icon just doesnt show up?..

ADD on wish list
- flashlight
- new/customizable skin for music player (default seems very pale/bare)
- capture function for 2nd camera is missing
- video size setting (need more for mms sending the 128x96 was gone)
- "Best PIC" setting should have timer gap interval settings. (This is just like the burst mode of my w800.. not so good add ons unless they add interval settings)
- can replace videocall with pix.. y not add .3gp replacing
- flash theme / menu support
- turning off sent items.
- log for calls (missed call details.. time stamp on all missedcall of 1contact)


**Do you guys also experience having a hardtime to remove the battery cover?? grrrrrrr

[ This Message was edited by: vanity on 2006-08-16 06:55 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-08-16 07:06:08, vanity wrote:
@MWARNER
Thanks for starting this thread
hope to keep us updated

Had my k800i last week R1CB CDA singapore

ADD on wish list
- flashlight



(You know that the flash is Xenon and can not be utilized as a flashliight). There is an app invented by a poster here on Esato that will turn on the red LED as a flashlight.


Posted by jasond
Quote:

On 2006-08-16 08:58:09, sapporobaby wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-08-16 07:06:08, vanity wrote:
ADD on wish list
- flashlight



(You know that the flash is Xenon and can not be utilized as a flashliight). There is an app invented by a poster here on Esato that will turn on the red LED as a flashlight.





This is probably what he was referring to, but as an inbuild ap.

Posted by TomS2
Quote:

On 2006-08-16 04:42:54, jasond wrote:
I will be interested to learn of any improvements in R1CF001, once enough people have re-flashed using Wotanserver.




From this german site here I learned the following changes:
- noise removed from radio
- increased speaker volume
- removed display switch off during usage

Regards, TomS

Posted by vanity
@jason
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OIC. Xenon flash cant act like flashlite..
Yes its nice to have if an inbuild app would be integrated with the videoCapturing for nite mode shooting this wud be fine

i already have the torch.jar..



[ This Message was edited by: vanity on 2006-08-16 09:27 ]

Posted by jasond
Quote:

On 2006-08-16 09:19:47, TomS2 wrote:
- noise removed from radio



At the moment the static that I can hear through my car stereo is very comparible to what you guys experience in the radio.

It's always discretely present for the first 30 seconds of connection (only heard when stereo is turned up, with no music), but not audible when music or radio is playing, and then after about 30 seconds (as people have reported) it suddenly gets a whole lot louder.

Fortunately it never seems to get louder when the music player is playing... only the radio? Or in my case - when nothing is open at all. Bizarrrrre.

I sure hope it gets resolves as it give me a hell of a fright if the phone's connected to the stereo but no music is playing for 30 seconds!!

Posted by blunden
If they could only release it on SEUS, we would all be very happy. It almost feels like they will wait and release an even newer firmware, or they are just slow.

Posted by vanity
One more thing

Is there a way to put back the mode into normal from Flight mode without restarting the fone.. and vice versa?
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my w800i doesnt browse the fone wen in flight mode, it only plays the walkman menu...

Posted by b3rx
@vanity
i belive there is not a way to do that. as i can tell, only symbian os enabled phone can do that.

Posted by hansmusterli
I just noticed another bug with pictures in vertical or horizontal (landscape/portrait):

I shot a portrait/vertical picture. If I view it in the album it is in landscape/horizontal, that's normal, no problem. Now I turn it, so it's in the right vertical/portrait position in the album. But If I post it directly to the blog (send > to blog), the picture appears nevertheless in horizontal/landscape on the blog.

Seems to be the same problem as with the pictures you use for your contacts. If they are vertical/portrait in the album, they still appear in horizontal/landscape in your contacts, when your friend is calling or sending a message.

@mwarner: please add this to the bug list. Thanks!

[ This Message was edited by: hansmusterli on 2006-08-16 11:19 ]

Posted by tomchadwin
Minor bug:

Watch video in full-screen, pause it, then change back to landscape mode. Video timer says 00:00 until you unpause.

Cheers

Tom

Posted by vanity
hope all bugs posted here would be fixed... Then this will be one of the best fone! ASTEEG!

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does your K800 becomes HOT? when charging... mine does...

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-08-17 06:22:15, vanity wrote:
hope all bugs posted here would be fixed... Then this will be one of the best fone! ASTEEG!

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does your K800 becomes HOT? when charging... mine does...



It's normal.

Posted by jasond
Quote:

On 2006-08-16 10:54:06, vanity wrote:
Is there a way to put back the mode into normal from Flight mode without restarting the fone.. and vice versa?



I wish so! Even to have it in the Power button menu would be great, currently, if I want to use my phone in a hospital as a once off (but not be prompted to use flight mode at every startup), I have to:

Go into settings and turn the flight mode prompt on,
turn the phone off (wait ) and back on again, selecting flight mode,
then on my return to normal mode, switch the flight mode option off again!

On this note...

Another possible bug:
In flight mode the Power button menu doesn't appear for me, not even from stand-by. Can this be confirmed as a bug by anyone?

Also: Viewing Birthday appointments added by the K800 display in an unusual fashion. Pressing the Back key to return to the Calendar exits the Calendar altogether.

Posted by Vercetti
Damn hope that SE is putting the firmware on SEUS as we speak.

Posted by aremaboy
So, any info on SEUS? Trying to update via OTA but always says my firmware is the latest. Is it reliable anyway?

Posted by Vercetti
Quote:

On 2006-08-17 12:27:00, aremaboy wrote:
So, any info on SEUS? Trying to update via OTA but always says my firmware is the latest. Is it reliable anyway?


I hope so but I tried OTA and SEUS so I think it's oke.
_________________
Phone history: T20e, T100, T630, K600i and now K800i

[ This Message was edited by: Vercetti on 2006-08-17 17:02 ]

Posted by feelisme
I regret to sell my W800 and changed to K800. K800 music player features is worse compare to W800i and so many bugs else W800 firmware is quite stable now. Should wait until the K800 is stable.

Wish to have Improvements of Music Player:

-Cannot scroll up and down to select song while playing music...
-Volume too low, need to be increased. (how can SE have same mistake while it was fixed on W800?)
-Cannot shortcut straight to the Now playing.

*** Is there possible to have MegaBass ?????????

new firmware pls!!!!!!!

By the way, anyone can teach how to set setting can equal or better than MegaBass? Appreciated if anyone can advice. Thanks!!!!!

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-08-17 17:34:45, feelisme wrote:
I regret to sell my W800 and changed to K800. K800 music player features is worse compare to W800i and so many bugs else W800 firmware is quite stable now. Should wait until the K800 is stable.

Wish to have Improvements of Music Player:

-Cannot scroll up and down to select song while playing music...
-Volume too low, need to be increased. (how can SE have same mistake while it was fixed on W800?)
-Cannot shortcut straight to the Now playing.

*** Is there possible to have MegaBass ?????????

new firmware pls!!!!!!!

By the way, anyone can teach how to set setting can equal or better than MegaBass? Appreciated if anyone can advice. Thanks!!!!!



Mr. Feelisme,

Please do not double post in two different threads. The mods do not like this and in most cases it will not get your problem solved any quicker.

Posted by utsavtalwar
hey feelisme
u just spoke the words outta my mouth in that post regarding low sound and megabass.....

if you get a reply and solution please do also let me know..

thx..cheers
my email:
utsavtalwar@yahoo.com

Posted by blunden
They need to get the firmware out there. How can they be so slow. Since of the indications earlier in this thread that new phones ship with this new firmware there is no reason not putting it up on SEUS.

Posted by sapporobaby
Why continue to whine and complain about the software not being there. Many of us are waiting for it but do you think that your complaining about it will make SE release it any sooner? I wold rather wait an extra 2 or 3 weeks for something that is ready than for something quick. Second, how long has the phone been on the market? A maintenance release is usually available after a few months or less, so what is the problem? SE is gathering the COMPLAINTS as well as the thoughtfully worded bug reports and preparing an upgrade to fix things.

Posted by vanity
***UPDATES on My Bug List:***


ENTERTAINMENT:
-There is a shortcut for DemoTour, i transfer the files on my VIDEO folder to M2, the the DemoTour says files has been deleted. I tried putting the DemoTour files back on the fone. Still demotour Shortcut on the entertainment doesnt find the file. it says deleted How could i put it back>??

- Set LCD to 50% brightness. When you received a text message it seems that brightness increases. (Normal???)
- Very slow on mark Several both in sim / phone contacts
- Mark Several selection mis aligned the checkboxes.. (Please verify)

OPTION Under ADVANCE in CONTACTS
- Try to backup your contacts in M2 Then delete one contact on your phonebook then Restore from M2. It will delete ALL your contacts cause it will fail restoring. whew ... but tried to restore again then its back..

BATTERY:
Try to notice the percentage and the status bar, are they synchronized? just wondering..

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

@MWARNER
Where You?? any updates..
Had my k800i last week R1CB CDA singapore


VIDEO:
- video mode during recording a green line at the side of screen.
- Sometimes thumbnail of video doesnt appear

MMS:
- Preview with video doesnt play the sound (frequently occur/needs rebooting)
- mms on outbox that is being send on a dead signal doesnt continue when signal comes (restarting the fone will continue sending)

KEYPAD CLICK/TONE Sound
- click/tone sound of keypad frequently goes off / was gone.
this also affects my message tone, cant playback video, cant play sound files i encounter this when creating/recving/sending mms (i just noticed.. not sure which, but occurs very often)

CLOCK SETTINGS:
- Small/large clock in 24HOUR time format

BATTERY:
- battery consumption only 24hours? (mms and text only about 5min calls)
- hard to open battery cover (not on firmware hehehe)

BUTTONS
- "ZoomIn" on camera was on lower button unlike my w800i which is same as increasing the volume. (did they change it for reason?)
- multitap fast typing problem sometimes letters were not pressed

PHONEBOOK:
- phonebook doesnt show the icon symbol.. (:-) / / :-| etc. ... )

EXTRAS
- cant remember where but i found a garbled background of help/info message.

- turning on Bluetooth on shortcut sometimes fails to load/ or the icon just doesnt show up?..

ADD on wish list
- RED TORCH to enable during VideoCapture
- New/Customizable skin for music player (default seems very pale/bare)
- Video/Image capture function for 2nd camera is missing
- Video Size Settings (need more for mms sending the 128x96 was gone)
- "Best PIC" setting should have timer gap interval settings. (This is just like the burst mode of my w800.. not so good add ons unless they add interval settings)
- Add .3gp replace on VideoCall (Image replace was so good cheers)
- Flash Theme / menu support
- Turning off sent items.
- Log for Calls (missed call details: Time stamp on all missed call of 1 contact)




[ This Message was edited by: vanity on 2006-08-18 08:31 ]


Posted by jasond
I'm also of the opinion that (perhaps just for the initial firmware release), the first post of this thread should show more categorised bugs.

Firstly: Major bugs (although it may be hard to choose which),
And then all confirmed bugs (sighted by at least 2-3 people) sorted by category.

I reckon this would prove to be a much better overview to see where the firmware is headed than just picking and choosing bugs for inclusion.

If we all worked together at testing each other's findings, we could come up with a very accurate overview, possible to send to SE.

Posted by vanity
x2 on JASOND and SAPPOROBABY

Where is MWARNER???

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Well i have mentioned all the bugs i encountered and categorized it... Firmware is better late than releasing earlier but still buggy

lets just wait.. by the way how old is this fone?

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Posted by Aware
Earliest adopters have had them ooo, 7/8 weeks; had mine 4(22/07; I don't suffer any major bugs tho, I'm lucky this year)......

Posted by mwarner
Updated the 3 CDA in the first post. Sorry for the absence - i've been rather busy at work of late and not really had any time to check Esato!

Posted by jasond
No dramas!

What did you think of our thoughts on categorising bugs? Ratifying reported bugs and adding all bugs that have been confirmed to thes sections?

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-08-18 10:04:12, jasond wrote:
No dramas!

What did you think of our thoughts on categorising bugs? Ratifying reported bugs and adding all bugs that have been confirmed to thes sections?




Darn good idea. In fact lets expand this a bit more. How about lists dealing with maybe: Known bugs, questionable bugs/issues, wish list (realistic based on phones), and wish list based on a dreamworld scenario.

This would be a list containing 4 sets of info and maybe the mods can make it a sticky.

Posted by sapporobaby
Just so that I am up to date. I got my k800i about 3 weeks ago and the f/w is: R1CB001. Is there a new version or are we all waiting for an official SE release?

Posted by mwarner
Thanks for all your input while I have been away! I have updated the first post with those bugs I have verified & consider sensible to include. I have also redone the layout somewhat. All comments welcome

It also goes without saying that I would be grateful for any assistance in verifying these issues. In fact, here is the first that I need confirmation on:

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"I shot a portrait/vertical picture. If I view it in the album it is in landscape/horizontal, that's normal, no problem. Now I turn it, so it's in the right vertical/portrait position in the album. But If I post it directly to the blog (send > to blog), the picture appears nevertheless in horizontal/landscape on the blog.

Seems to be the same problem as with the pictures you use for your contacts. If they are vertical/portrait in the album, they still appear in horizontal/landscape in your contacts, when your friend is calling or sending a message."

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My question is, if you view the picture, select rotate then add it to your contacts / blog it is the output picture displayed correctly?

Posted by blunden
Quote:

On 2006-08-18 09:33:55, vanity wrote:
lets just wait.. by the way how old is this fone?

I got mine 29/6. I'm sure it depends on where you live.

Posted by Vercetti
I got mine 11/7

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-08-18 12:18:03, blunden wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-08-18 09:33:55, vanity wrote:
lets just wait.. by the way how old is this fone?

I got mine 29/6. I'm sure it depends on where you live.



What is the most current s/w for the generic version?

Posted by mwarner
@sapporobaby

Read the first post

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-08-18 13:11:11, mwarner wrote:
@sapporobaby

Read the first post



I read this already a while ago. I was asking if something new had come down the pike and I had missed it.

Posted by zkool448
You had not missed anything, mwarner updates the first post on this firmware thread if anything does come down the pike..

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Posted by vanity
Why r there so many bugs???

don't they have Quality Checking before releasing to market??

is nokia also experiencing this king of bugging??

\\\\


Posted by Choi
anyone try the update of k800 from davinciteam.com? any result?

Posted by obentou
Is K790i going to be excluded from this thread....?

Although they ARE very similar phones.

Posted by obentou
OK, time to report this bug. Although it IS listed on the front page

My call log isn't registering ANYTHING... and at the bottom of the call list of "All" there is this blank entry... it's so damn annoying.

Anyone know how I can get rid of this bug? It looks permanent... I tried deleting an entry but to no avail.

Damn SE, selling us this crap.

[ This Message was edited by: obentou on 2006-08-19 05:27 ]

Posted by Daisun
My call list looks fine to me, no blank entries at the bottom.. working fine

Posted by farkasg
obentou:

Try a full reset.... I think this is something with file corruption... I couldn't open my contact list, but a full reset solved the problem...

Posted by aremaboy
My K800i works just fine. The call log bug doesn't present. The radio is OK, no noise..hmm, maybe a 2nd batch? Yesterday, it crashed whenever I opened my contact list..white screen. 4 times. I waited till it was on by itself..1 min afterwards. Then pull out the battery for 15 mins. No more white screen or crash..weird? It's R1CB001 CHINA APAC..

Posted by jasond
Quote:

On 2006-08-18 20:36:32, zkool448 wrote:
You had not missed anything, mwarner updates the first post on this firmware thread if anything does come down the pike..



Ha!

@Mike, I myself cannot confirm your rotation bug, as I can't blog on my network, but I'm hoping someone else here can confirm.

It was a nice surprise to visit this thread and see your alterations. I think sapporobaby had it right with his classifications in his earlier post.

Having a 'Reported bugs requiring confirmation' collumn could also focus people on testing it out on their own handsets, rather than reading through the whole thread to find things they should test.

I think a list of suggestions is also a worthwhile addition - so long as we all keep it simple, concise, and reasonable.

For example:
"The ability to press the back key in the media player and return to where you browsed from." Now the lacking of this feature probably couldn't be classed as a bug (as the media player has been designed like this), but it's certainly worthy of a firmware suggestion.

Posted by >500
are these bugs and suggestions going to be emailed to sony ericsson?

Posted by aremaboy
Unfortunately, as usual, SE won't listen. SE has the specific standard of bug fixing, which indeed, is impossible to satisfy all people. Remember W800 M4A tag bug? It's never fixed no matter how loud we shout.


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