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Posted by dels
Just a word of warning to 3 customers in the UK.

SEUS allowed me to update my K800 to the KG firmware.

All looked good but there is a problem that the menu.ml file is corrupted and as a result the camera fails to operate.

Used Wotan to reurn it to the JE firmware and all is fine.

I reflashed just to check and faced the same problem.

3 customers take care using SESU!


Posted by sapporobaby

On 2007-05-30 10:44:00, aremaboy wrote:
@sapporobaby
Unfortunately I haven't had any experience with W880i. Just my old K800i. What's up?

Nothing much. I know that you have this thread in control and I figured in your travels and info gathering you might have come across the w880. I might get one just to have as an extra/spare phone. Thanks for the help dude.

If you do happen to come across some info, you can just drop a PM on me. Thanks again.
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Posted by aremaboy
It's my pleasure, sapporobaby. Thanks a lot to you too.

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2007-05-30 06:47:55, prk_saravana wrote:
Finally i have decided to update my mobile via WOTAN. I am having APAC version of K800. it is not available in wotan. So which region to choose in wotan... Pl help... pl suggest may i upgrade to K810 firmware... is it good or bad...



Don't flash yours with K810i firmware. The keypad won't light up. I suggest R1KC001 with CHINA.wtm and APAC.wtf if you want to keep APAC languages with you. If not pick up any Generic--not Generic Trade---R1KG001. That's the latest.

Posted by MrZippy

On 2007-05-30 10:45:26, dels wrote:
Just a word of warning to 3 customers in the UK.

SEUS allowed me to update my K800 to the KG firmware.

All looked good but there is a problem that the menu.ml file is corrupted and as a result the camera fails to operate.

Used Wotan to reurn it to the JE firmware and all is fine.

I reflashed just to check and faced the same problem.

3 customers take care using SESU!


My wife has K800i on 3-UK so not sure whether to try or not, did you actually delete the download folder for SEUS before re-flashing as the files are cached locally, so a corrupt file would still be the same on the 2nd flash....

BTW was the customisation changed, my K610 3-UK was flashed at a service centre because it died and when it came back it still had R1JE but it now has the walkman style EMS icons in Add Item > Animation.

Also just flashed R1KG using SEUS to my 3-UK K610i and all is OK.

[ This Message was edited by: MrZippy on 2007-05-30 14:38 ]

Posted by dels

On 2007-05-30 15:14:35, MrZippy wrote:
My wife has K800i on 3-UK so not sure whether to try or not, did you actually delete the download folder for SEUS before re-flashing as the files are cached locally, so a corrupt file would still be the same on the 2nd flash....

BTW was the customisation changed, my K610 3-UK was flashed at a service centre because it died and when it came back it still had R1JE but it now has the walkman style EMS icons in Add Item > Animation.

Also just flashed R1KG using SEUS to my 3-UK K610i and all is OK.

[ This Message was edited by: MrZippy on 2007-05-30 14:38 ]


Yeah folder was deleted and the file redownloaded. As I said whole process went well until you access the menu and get the error! Then rying to use the camera or video phone a message
flashes on the screen very quickly saying something like 'cannot start camera as another application s running'

Has anyone successfully Upgraded a 3-UK K800 to R1KG?
I don't want to have to waste time trying again!

Cheers

Posted by MrZippy
Just trying now and the phone does not even connect to SEUS / Windows...

Something like this killed my K610 so service centre had to re-flash...

Seems odd as only happened a since you leave the SIM in, as service centre updated EROM (on my K610) not sure if you need the new EROM to use SEUS now, but that would be very odd.

Let me know what you think.

Posted by brayjd
just updated via SEUS and my phone has gone to R1KG001
I'm on O2.
Anyone know whats new in this release?

[ This Message was edited by: brayjd on 2007-05-30 16:25 ]

Posted by Rookwise
Looks like R1KG001 is out for O2 UK branded K800's.
I can certainly confirm this.
There's also a new EROM version as well R3A022

Posted by rahulraj

On 2007-05-17 03:36:12, maldus wrote:
just updated my K790i here in India to S_Asia_Levan CDA 102568/110 to R1KG001



OWWW .. Read the good reviews, specially the bit about "never ask" for File System access and tried updating the firmware of my k790i (earlier it was R1JG001 on CDA102568/110)..Also used to have this issue where the set would suddenly restart or start showing "Inactive SIM" messages...

Anyway, the update did not work over FOTA so used the usb cable and SEUS... and now the Application and Games folders are not accessible ....

Have been googling for two days and all solutions seem to suggest either wotan or service center.... Has anyone found out why this particular problem happens? And is there any other solution (free!)?

Also can I delete the "updates" folder under C:\\Program Files\\Sony Ericsson\\Update Service? Someone mentioned that this folder has some old caches which may affect the way the phone gets flashed.

Thanks for any help,
Rahul

Posted by MrZippy

On 2007-05-30 10:45:26, dels wrote:
Just a word of warning to 3 customers in the UK.

SEUS allowed me to update my K800 to the KG firmware.

All looked good but there is a problem that the menu.ml file is corrupted and as a result the camera fails to operate.

Used Wotan to reurn it to the JE firmware and all is fine.

I reflashed just to check and faced the same problem.

3 customers take care using SESU!


Just tried it with a K800i on 3-UK and I get the same error now and the camera does not function...

On the first time you try and enter the menu you get the following error:
"Errors occur in the menu.ml file. This may render the menu unusable"

I am a little bit annoyed as this must be a SEUS error, I would imagine a corrupt file in the update...

Now how do we get this sorted...

[ This Message was edited by: MrZippy on 2007-05-31 21:16 ]

Posted by MrZippy
Looks like it flashed the 3-UK W850 firmware onto my phone, as it shows WALKMAN where the 3-Player (Music Player on non-branded) and when I tried to backup the phone contents it was identified as a W850i under Windows...

I have fixed with Wotan, but Sony's mistake has put me out of pocket

See also thread about this on 3g.co.uk

http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showthread.php?t=59388

Posted by aremaboy
I've been reading many posts regarding SEUS failure recently. Mostly the incomplete updating, like being stuck at 98% and suddenly it went back to Start, which left the phone unusable. Perhaps we should send emails to SE? Nothing we can do as the EULA we were promted before running SEUS said at least 'No guarranty is available..bla..bla..SE isn't responsible for the damage..bla..bla'...SEUS is presented as it is..bla..bla..bla..'
So the best way is avoiding SEUS for some time. There will be a new release in a few days to go. Check Downtime on http://ma3.extranet.sonyericsson.com
Hope it'll solve the problems.

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2007-05-30 23:39:13, Rookwise wrote:

There's also a new EROM version as well R3A022



Is the new EROM R3A022 obtainable via SEUS too? How could it be possible as SEUS didn't even upgrade old buggy EROM R3A011 to R3A016 in the past as there was no way to hold 2 plus 5 during the process..

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2007-06-01 00:25:01, MrZippy wrote:
Looks like it flashed the 3-UK W850 firmware onto my phone, as it shows WALKMAN where the 3-Player (Music Player on non-branded) and when I tried to backup the phone contents it was identified as a W850i under Windows...




Oh, no. That's a serious mistake. It seems SEUS has to work hard to identify each phone CDA as many more phones are listed there.

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2007-05-30 17:23:16, brayjd wrote:
just updated via SEUS and my phone has gone to R1KG001
I'm on O2.
Anyone know whats new in this release?




Major improvement is the updated Java version to 7.4 with Never Ask option under Permission-Read Write User Data with all Java games and applications. That stops annoying confirmation pops up. However, when you activate date/time stamp on your 3 MP camera, it will take around 5-20 seconds in saving the shot, depending on the size of the file resulted. That's awful.

Posted by aremaboy
@rahulraj
No, I'm afraid there is no free independently-done-at-home way to reflash the phone in this case, except SESC itself which may take days and weeks or even months to do so, at least based on my experience here in Indonesia. That's why I asked a help of a friend having a Paypal access to buy some Wotan credits for me. You can do the same to revive the phone. Good luck.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-05-31 23:58 ]

Posted by Rookwise

On 2007-06-01 00:34:00, aremaboy wrote:
Is the new EROM R3A022 obtainable via SEUS too? How could it be possible as SEUS didn't even upgrade old buggy EROM R3A011 to R3A016 in the past as there was no way to hold 2 plus 5 during the process..


I just had another K800 delivered from O2 for my mother. This was a Concrete Silver model K800 with O2 branding. When I checked the firmware it was R1KG001 and EROM was R3A022.
Have checked on Wotanserver and they do not have the new EROM either.

Pic's below to show:




Posted by aremaboy
AFAIK, EROM can't be installed that easily neither via SEUS nor WotanServer or else. Look at Rookwise's EROM string. It doesn't mention the word WILMA anymore as most K800i does. It has the same EROM as K810i. Exactly. That's not a big problem..the new K800i products are with this new EROM. It's just a matter of product improvement I guess.

Posted by joevik
Does anyone know what is the latest firmware for K800i Vodafone ?

Posted by maldus
there's one more thing i have come across.

the video player doesnt go into standby mode when you are using your handsfree or earphones.

thats not the case without the earphones. i saw a half hour video without any problem at all.

i doubt seus will let us upgrade the erom "in case" that happens.

otherwise the phone is pretty much bug free.

[ This Message was edited by: maldus on 2007-06-01 06:08 ]

Posted by aremaboy
Old same question: Anyone checked whether R1KG001 is already available via SEUS for APAC region?

Posted by e_npg
i just did an update on my phone thru SEUS and it updated to -

k800i APAC

R1JG001
EROM: R3A016
LCD 200608251
Camera 2.5
Video call camera 2.3
Content PA24
Java 7.3
Text rev. BT

and now i'm having backlight issues It doesn't save to the setting you want so when the phone auto key-locks it goes back to the lowest setting AND the keyboard backlights don't light up when you unlock the phone!

grrrr

sometimes the backlight doesn't even turn on so i have to hold the phone up to a really bright light just to see what's on the screen... SO ANGRY!

i tried several times to re update on SEUS but it keeps failing at 98% hence why i think the backlight is screwed due to an incomplete update!!!



Posted by aremaboy
It's a common problem with SEUS now that it stops updating the phone at 98% stage. The best way is reflash it at a Service Centre or do it yourself via Wotan Server.

Posted by szelinger
Hi All!

I need help. I have a k800i, i made a sw update with SEUS. I live in Hungary and the new software dos'nt contain the hungarian language. Can i download the hungarian language or can i set back the previous software?

The new sw is:
CXC1250210
R1KG001
070418

If somebody can help, please. Tanks

Posted by aremaboy
Was the phone with Hungarian language before you ran SEUS? That's weird that after updating you lost the language. Please, post the detailed software info here. If you want to get the language back, visit www.wotanserver.com and choose the Hungary CDA.


Posted by szelinger
Yes, before i ran the SEUS the phone contains hungarian language. The sw version now is:
CXC1250210
R1KG001
070418

I used the original SEUS and made everything like the directions of the software.

I forgot this...
The phone now contains ONLY english language, but many writing language.
[ This Message was edited by: szelinger on 2007-06-02 10:52 ]

[ This Message was edited by: szelinger on 2007-06-02 11:09 ]

Posted by e_npg
LUCKY I FIXED IT!

*PHEW*

i THINK the reason it doesn't complete is because the file it downloads is corrupt.

the fix?

uninstall SE update from computer. re-install. re-download and re-flash (i made sure i had nothing else downloading at the time) and it completed to 100%!!!

*yay*

phone's back to normal, i'm a happy boy!

it's all good!!!

Posted by szelinger
I made the uninstall, re-flash the phone, it's done 100%, but only the english language appears

Here is the details:
R1KG001
prgCXC1250210_GENERIC_W1KG001

EROM: R3A016
prgCXC1250461_EROM
_DB2020-WILMA-FOT
A-SIMLOCK-FLAFLA-SI
BLEY-SEMCUSB

...............

Customization
CDA102568/2 R4A
cxc1250490 R1KG001
CENT_EUROPE

.............

Text revision:
CB

Update service SW
UA version:
CRH1069179 R3B021
2006-12-18 15:59

[ This Message was edited by: szelinger on 2007-06-02 14:44 ]

Posted by aremaboy
What is your CDA? Please post the detail. Press joystick right, *, joystick left two times, *, joystick left and * , and post your software info in details. I want to know your Customisation info. There might be some issues regarding just one language installed.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-06-02 14:36 ]

Posted by Vicser
aremaboy,
His CDA was pointed.
Customization
CDA102568/2 R4A
cxc1250490 R1KG001
CENT_EUROPE

Under subj. - he has to do master reset once or twice.

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[ This Message was edited by: Vicser on 2007-06-02 21:27 ]

Posted by aremaboy
It looks normal. I don't know why it lost some languages. Wotanserver can bring them back again. Another SEUS problem?

Posted by maldus
could it be that he has to select the Hungarian language under the writing options ....

just incase if that has not been checked

Posted by viralsanghvi
this is my first post, ive been updating my k800i brown using SEUS from feb 07 since i got my phone

my customization is france generic

my firmware is R1KG001
prgCXC1250210_generic_WI R1KG001

EROM:R3A016
prgCXC1250461_EROM_db2020

my phone came with a R1ED001 CID49 firmware

since then i've noticed that there is no FOTA in the settings->general tab

then i updated it to R1GB and still it didnt change (FOTA still isn't there)

my next update was R1JG using SEUS in the end of march
after that i couldnt use the CAMERA A button for scrolling down using the file manager, even though i can use the CAMERA B button for scrolling up in the file manager

neither can i use the CAMERA A button to scroll camera album images from the home display
all i can do is use it to open the image in full screen mode, and then scroll backwards using CAMERA B, but cant scroll with CAMERA A button

so in short, that button has become a show piece!

now i have updated to R1KG, but both problems persist.

can anyone help me out with this?

can i use wotanserver and get both these problems solved?

Posted by Rookwise
The camera A and B button problem is still an ongoing one. Using Wotanserver will not cure the problem at all.

Posted by szelinger
Hi All!

Thanx for the help! Some master resets are solve the problem, but i have a new one. Sometimes when i try to pair a bluetooth device, the screen going to black and the phone lost the mobile network and then the screen blinking and the phone search for the network. Is this a problem or is this just the switching between the 3G and 2g network?

Posted by activeforce
any update for new firmware for people in netherlands? via FOTA or SEUS?

whichever let me know!

Posted by aremaboy
FOTA never works for me..

Posted by [c3]
Got a quick Q for u guys, im on R1GB001 for some reason i cant upgrade to R1K with SEUS, i need to reflash my phone with Wotan or something, thats not the question though. my Q is, are there any improvements in the camera in R1K should i go through the hassle and upgrade using Wotan or is the camera still the same? the same goes for the 3g cam also.

regards.

Posted by ssreload
Hello.... I have this one:
Here is the details:
R1KG001
prgCXC1250210_GENERIC_W1KG001

EROM: R3A016
prgCXC1250461_EROM
_DB2020-WILMA-FOT
A-SIMLOCK-FLAFLA-SI
BLEY-SEMCUSB

...............

Customization
CDA102568/2 R4A
cxc1250490 R1KG001
CENT_EUROPE

.............

Text revision:
CB

Update service SW
UA version:
CRH1069179 R3B021
2006-12-18 15:59


It is possible to make this phone LOUDER in the phonecalls? Because i really dont hear what some people tolk with me... I had the same problem with my w810...but for this model exist some patches fos sound. Can I make the same with this one(k800i)? Thanks alot and sorry for poor english.

Posted by Dovern
Weird... why still dont have new APAC Firmware for K800i... in fact W850i already have new firmware available,

Posted by rahulraj
@Aremaboy
Does SEUS have a schedule for providing fresh updates? In case they have another update coming in a month or so, I would prefer to wait rather than rack my brains with the SESC. (Don't want to go for the Wotan thing as am not sure what that does to the warranty. ) But if it is too long a wait, might have to pay a visit to these duffers.

BTW has anyone found why exactly the "Operation Failed" error for Games and Application folder occurs?

Also what is the Emma website? It talks about some security dongle and something, so does not look as simple as SEUS?

Thanks,
Rahul

[ This Message was edited by: rahulraj on 2007-06-05 11:10 ]

Posted by MrZippy

On 2007-06-05 12:09:12, rahulraj wrote:
Also what is the Emma website? It talks about some security dongle and something, so does not look as simple as SEUS?

Thanks,
Rahul

[ This Message was edited by: rahulraj on 2007-06-05 11:10 ]


Think you will find Emma is Sony's service centre upgrade site, where all the firmware is posted.

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2007-06-05 05:15:47, Dovern wrote:
Weird... why still dont have new APAC Firmware for K800i... in fact W850i already have new firmware available,



You mean APAC R1KG001 W850i?

Posted by aremaboy
@rahul
Yes, every month, usually within the first week, a new SEUS version is out. But nobody knows which firmware is available for which phone as there is never an announcement made by SE. The changelogs that SE releases via EMMA website are technical only, for instance new Java RunTime installer, but never any info about a new firmware. And EMMA is only for SE technicians and big flashing company such as WotanServer and Davinci. End users like us aren't allowed to use that system. SEUS is the only option.

Posted by Dovern

On 2007-06-05 13:27:00, aremaboy wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-06-05 05:15:47, Dovern wrote:
Weird... why still dont have new APAC Firmware for K800i... in fact W850i already have new firmware available,



You mean APAC R1KG001 W850i?


yes...R1KG001 APAC version is already available for W850i...

Posted by aremaboy
I'm also waiting for APAC R1KG001. Please, post as you get it, will you?

Posted by activeforce
does anyone in the Netherland have the lastest firmware? if so did you update via FOTA or SEUS?

Please let me know thank you...

Posted by aremaboy
Finally, Wotan Server releases APAC R1KG001. It means SEUS is too as it is likely from the same source..please, for those with APAC, run SEUS and see whether R1KG001 is already available. I'll flash my K800i EUROPE 5 back to APAC via Wotan as soon as I get the credit. I do miss my mother tongue, Bahasa Indonesia...

Posted by naveensiva
Guys i saw the new version ie R1KG001... is avail on SEUS .. but i am from india..tried but tells me that i have the latest version but i have the prev version only

are u guys sure that the new R1KG001 is available on SEUS???

please confirm it..

and please do update the first page only when u r sure..
sorry to be harsh coz i have tried twice but cant finsd the new versrion on SEUS ..thats y


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