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Posted by aremaboy
@SE Rules:
CID isn't written there in firmware info. If you run Wotan Client, you'll see that..
I don't know why SEUS stops updating the phone after 98%. Does the phone works just fine after that half-update? Post the firmware info here, please.


Posted by adnansanni
@aremaboy
it doesn't update. just jump to 98% from 0%. and bact to main screen. and phone is remain the same.

I already format my pc and install windows again but still got the problem. now I'm thinking about one thing. I've P990i's pc-suite on my computer. so I don't install K800i's pc-suite becouase both are mixedup and doesn't work. so I've only installed the driver from original cd and use MyPhoneExplorer. so may be it is the main problem that driver is too old. now i'm going to install my xp again. and install only K800i's pc-suite (need for update driver) then going to try again. I think this the last thing as I can do. I'll let you know what happened.

Posted by vegetaleb
Fast and furious question: can I update my k800 under vista x64?

Posted by mwarner
Hi Guys!

Sorry for the lack of activity over the last two months - I have been stuck over in Dublin, Ireland since the start of February! As a matter of fact, I am there as we speak - but at least I have broadband now!

I have updated the first post to include R1JE and R1JG. Whilst I have had a quick skim through the posts in this thread over the last two months, I may well be missing some important bug fixes/new bugs/operator specific changes. I would be grateful if people could PM me if they see any mistakes or missing data in the first post.

Thanks,

Mike

Posted by mwarner
Added a link to the SE drivers page in the first post.

Posted by aremaboy
mwarner, guess you missed the availability of R1KC001 released for mostly European CDA and some operators which DISABLES Video Preview and UPGRADES Java version so that we have the new look of font there.

BTW, thanks that you update the info with the problem of being unable to preview SVG files from file manager and Drivers link from EMMA website. I have PMed you with my findings.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-04-03 22:15 ]

Posted by tjosborn
I tried to update my firmware using wotan to k810i and now having network problems. I get 3 beeps when I call and can only very occasionally connect to the network. Everything seemed to go ok with the flashing process.

Tried to flash back to k800i but it makes no difference. Logged a ticket with wotan but does anyone here have any ideas?

Sorry for jumping on this thread!

Posted by nats168
Hi guys,

Remember the problem I had with the screen turning off in the middle of typing an SMS with R1J? I fixed it!
I activated the screen saver and then deactivated it.
Voila! The screen doesn't die anymore.

Posted by keight00i
well, so far so good... has anyone noticed that SE haven't fixed the bug at phone startup, when the phone lock code box shows onscreen for a brief time even if you havent changed sim... i certainly hope R1JG001 isnt the last firmware for our phones... there are lots of upgrades to be had... i hope the next f/w update includes a new cybershot-specific startup show, just like the ones found on walkman phones...

Posted by JWM
Dear friends,

Today I have experienced a problem with my K800i. When I try to open the Programs, and Games folders, I get the message "Operation Failed". This happened immediately after uploading games on the phone by using USB cable.

I upgraded the firmware last week to R1J. I tried again to reinstall the firmware but it could not resolve the problem. Did Master Reset, but couldn't help.

Any idea on how I can do it? Is it firmware ploblems?


Thank you and sorry if this type of problem was already posted.


Posted by mwarner
Updated the first post with R1KC001 information and updates to R1JC002.

Posted by Mizzle
lol, sorry to write that it was a new firmware. hadn't updated it in a while. sorry guys.

Posted by jcbos
Yesterday I faced a new problem (at least for me) with my K800i with R1JG001. I don't know if anyone faced it and if it is serious or not.

the problem:
I was going through my phonebook and saw one number mentioned twice. I pressed the "C" to delete it. I accepted it and then my screen went black. after some time (1 minute) I saw some backlight going back on and some 30 seconds later the screen went on again and I saw that I lost all connections. About half a minute later, the phone was usable again and the item was deleted from the phonebook. I know that it wasn't a restart as I didn't had to enter my PIN again or had to choose for the "normal status" versus "airplane status". More people facing this problem?

I have an other isue which I have no clue where it comes from, but maybe someone can give me some info. Since my update to R1JG001 (through FOTA) when I am in a telephone call for more than 5-10 minutes I loose my network connection and the call is closed. After several seconds the connection is back and I can make a phone call again. Could this be firmware related or is it a problem with the antenna?

Thanks in advance for all the help

Posted by Sky Hi

On 2007-04-04 19:50:47, JWM wrote:
Dear friends,

Today I have experienced a problem with my K800i. When I try to open the Programs, and Games folders, I get the message "Operation Failed". This happened immediately after uploading games on the phone by using USB cable.

I upgraded the firmware last week to R1J. I tried again to reinstall the firmware but it could not resolve the problem. Did Master Reset, but couldn't help.

Any idea on how I can do it? Is it firmware ploblems?


Thank you and sorry if this type of problem was already posted.


Had the exact same problem few weeks ago. The only solution was finaly to take it to the SE service center where they reflashed ALL the f/w, and everything was ok.

Posted by baste07
taking out the video preview is a bummer on the new FW... i won't upgrade then

Posted by aremaboy
It is intended to improve stability, I'm sure. I have R1KC001 with Europe_5 custpack as Wotan doesn't release APAC version. I believe that each firmware update brings something improved that end-users unlikely notice. Remember, the Java version is 7.4. It means something for sure. I never regret updating my firmware because I always find more and more improvements.

Posted by bodum
@jcbos

i have mentioned the problem before, about phonebook entries being duplicated and the phone crashing when trying to delete the duplicate entry. also happens on R1JG, so is it a confirmed bug? anyone else having the same issue?



Posted by kfav1
R1JG001

I just updated my phone's firmware yesterday and I noticed that the Writing language is gone. is this a bug?

Posted by JWM
@ Sky Hi,

Thank you for reply.

Unfortunately we don't have SE service center here in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.

Any idea on how I can solve the problem apart from taking back to service center?



Posted by dayz
thank God for releasing new firmware in SEUS

[ This Message was edited by: dayz on 2007-04-05 14:21 ]

Posted by andre_cool

On 2007-04-05 15:15:04, dayz wrote:
thank God for releasing new firmware in SEUS

[ This Message was edited by: dayz on 2007-04-05 14:21 ]


released already for seus?

darn no video preview...i wont upgrade then no much difference from the last firmware

Posted by darrengf
Ok People.

I have update one of the K800i's using the Wotan service.
R1KC001
Generic UK CDA 2
PA is now PA30
Jave is JP-7.4
Text Rev is CB


On R1J I have 73mb of ava memory in phone
on R1K I have 72mb of ava memory in phone

No problems in updating what so ever in updating.

Few changes i can see though are as follows.

** Possible Bugs **

1) If your phone is in standby and with the keylock on, you received a sms, you click to unlock your phone and normly the lights come on.
Well they still come on, however there is a 1 second delay before the lights come on when you unlock the phone.

2) If you now go into the Data Com, you have a number of accounts all ready there.
However now some of them can not be removed. I have tried no matter what.
This is also the same in Internet Profiles. Some accounts are there to which some you can delete and some you cant.
(I have seen this before with software updating at CPW)

3) Video Preview in the file manager has been removed in this update

** Bug Fixed **

1) If you have a phone lock on you phone, now when you switch the phone on you just enter your pin and the phone starts (If you have a pin)
Or if you dont have a pin, then the phone just starts.
" You know only see the phone lock code, if you swap sim cards over "


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I know that a lot of people always say when a new update has been installed that the menus and phone feels faster. I can say that i have tested this phone with my other K800i which hasnt been updated and there is no difference what so ever.

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Now there is one more thing. I have read on here that since some one updated the phone to R1G when they make a call after 5-10 mins the call cuts of and you have to wait for it to show the connection again.

Now I was having something simular with my K800
R1JG.

(Im using o2) When i make a call (Normal Voice mail) in a 3g area the call is fine and connected, as soon as i start to leave the 3g area (in a car/public transport) etc, the call would drop out and i would have to wait for the phone to see the 2g network. Now there is nothing wrong with the 2g coverage its like the phone doesnt warm transfer the call over.
I can make it happen on o2 3g network all the time no problems.

All i have to do is make a call, move still using the phone and hey-presto as soon as i start to leave 3g the call drops.

I havnt used tried it on this new firmware so i will have to let you know the findings. (im on hols this weekend so i will update my findings and anything else ive noticed next week.

I cant say if this firmware is better that the other 2 prev released for crashing as with the other the phone never crashed.
If it does tho i will let you know

Happy easter to you all

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-04-05 23:05 ]

Posted by aremaboy
The free phone memory depends also on which CDA or customisation you have. Chinese version, e.g, has less memory left compared to Europe one. When I had APAC, I got 68 MB. But with EUROPE 5 I have 71 MB. No problem here. Chinese characters may consume much memory? Could be.

I don't have those undeletable data account nor internet profiles after my flash to R1KC001 EUROPE 5. I manually configured each setting. Could it be because of operator-specific customisation?

I do find 'no major problems' with all firmwares. Ever since R1BC up to R1KC, no major problems like drop calls, duplicated phone book entries, or Operation failed have taken place. Lucky, may be?

Posted by baste07
can we install a FW for the k810 on the k800? what's the diff between those two fws?

Posted by aremaboy
@baste07
Review previous pages back. I posted my findings about it.

Posted by feelisme
hi hi... Anyone of you encountered any problem update your firmware R1JG001 via SEUS?

I was getting update failed when it was updating up to 95%... Even I tried to do "Master reset all" before update... but still the same problem... I can still turn on my phone with R1JG001 but I find it is not stable now.....

Is there any problem at SEUS? Anyone can advice how to re-update my firmware again?

My phone now is...

R1JG001
prgCXC1250214_CHINA_WI
EROM:R3A016


Posted by maldus
why would they remove the video preview thing in the file manager??
that was a nice feature!! they are a taking a step back with that.

@darrengf

hey did u try using the upper left button next to the earpiece to scroll pictures from standby? also can you scroll up and down in the file manager with this left button?
in the previous f/w they had disabled these two things though the right one worked perfectly.



Posted by baste07

On 2007-04-06 04:53:00, aremaboy wrote:
@baste07
Review previous pages back. I posted my findings about it.


thanks, i also saw that you tried converting to k810? does th photo fix app work on the k800?

Posted by aremaboy
Sure, it works just fine. Tried it with some photos, and the effect was additional contrast and brightness. I converted back to K800i though. I don't like the problematic keypad.

Posted by baste07
what's wrong with the keypad?

Posted by aremaboy
Joystick, sofkeys, internet buttons, C button, Back button and Activity Menu button DO NOT light up.

Posted by Phat7
Just updated to R1JG001 and tested the video preview, fixed. I had the crashing problem before, if the video was a little large or good quality. Now it doesn't.

Posted by bodum
sad to say, i noticed that the call list bug is still in R1JG. when the call list is populated nearly to the max, the bottom of the list would show one or 2 blank entries...

Posted by baste07

On 2007-04-06 13:17:36, Phat7 wrote:
Just updated to R1JG001 and tested the video preview, fixed. I had the crashing problem before, if the video was a little large or good quality. Now it doesn't.


it was already fixed from the previous FW (r1jc002 i believe was the first to fix this.)

Posted by aremaboy
Wotan Server has uploaded R1KC001 for APAC (Asia Pacific) CDA. Flashing now...I do miss my Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian language) much as last week I changed my CDA to Europe 5 as it used to be European CDA only which were available to test R1KC001. It's a matter of language only I think...LOL.

EDIT: OK, just successfully flashed the phone to APAC CDA.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-04-08 02:08 ]

Posted by nats168
Cool!
I'll wait for the SEUS version.
I'm a cheapskate.

Posted by leerichards
No SEUS update for me??

Unbranded UK K800i with CDA 102511/2 R4A

SEUS says no update, so I'm still on R1GB001 whereas the first page says latest f/w is Unbranded UK (CDA102511/2) - R1JG001

Anyone else in the same position?

Lee

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my K800 blog

[ This Message was edited by: leerichards on 2007-04-08 10:33 ]

Posted by Daniel3655

On 2007-04-08 08:11:59, nats168 wrote:
Cool!
I'll wait for the SEUS version.
I'm a cheapskate.

me too! just wondering how long it takes for SEUS to release it?

Posted by aremaboy
I posted some time ago my findings of R1KC001 EUROPE 5 CDA. I found out that the font has changed a lot in Java games and applications compared to my R1JG001 APAC CDA. I noticed that there was clear and visible distinction in bold and non-bold letters, especially in Opera Mini. Some parts used thin font, while others thick (bold) one. I had R1JG001 APAC before, and when I wanted to flash R1KC001 via Wotan, I had no choice to get APAC--my normal CDA--at that time as it wasn't available yet. So I changed my CDA to EUROPE 5 and I found this font look difference. I thought the new Java engine 7.4 in R1KC001 brought this new font style. Sorry, I was mistaken. Why do I say so?
It's because today Wotan Server finally uploads R1KC001 for APAC customisation. This is what I'm waiting for as I need Indonesian language. I then flashed again my phone with the same R1KC001 but with APAC version. And you know what? Just noticed that there was NO thick and thin font style anymore as what I found in the previous Europe 5 CDA despite the same main firmware R1KC001. It surprises me a bit, however. I begin thinking that perhaps the font changes that I mentioned NEVER happen at all.
Then, I conclude that font look in Java apps and games are region-specific or CDA-based. In my R1KC001 APAC now, I don't see the clear distinction between bold letters and non-bold letters. All is the same. In Opera Mini, I don't have that thinner font look. All font now is of the same type and thickness. Hope that mwarner revised his 1st post. I just realize now that different CDA has different 'look' and 'performance'. So I am not sure now that this 7.4 Java version brings changes in font look in Java apps and games.
In other words, for European CDA you always have that bold and thin font in Java while in APAC always the bold one following the Chinese characters inside the specific CDA of WHATEVER firmware you have, not only this R1KC001.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-04-08 15:34 ]

Posted by bodum
but why doesn't SE fix the major bugs with the firmware, i.e. the caller list bug and phonebook duplication?? the duplication has reoccured on my phone, and turning it on and off doesn't change the situation...

Posted by aremaboy
More CDA-based findings of R1KC001 (or may be eversince the R1BC, R1ED, R1GB, or R1JG):
-In Europe 5, in Texting, the A,Aa, a indicator is placed more to the right side.
- In APAC the indicator is placed more to the center of the screen.


Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2007-04-08 16:42:49, bodum wrote:
but why doesn't SE fix the major bugs with the firmware, i.e. the caller list bug and phonebook duplication?? the duplication has reoccured on my phone, and turning it on and off doesn't change the situation...



I have never experienced phonebook duplication. Are you sure you don't accidentally ' restore contact back up from M2 to the phone?'

Posted by sethdev
there's a Bug in R1JG001 Firmware.
when you listen Radio and TURN ON SPEAKER, next if someone call you, the phone does not Ring, just vibrate. I see in older firmware version this don't' happen

Posted by Ja99iE

On 2007-04-08 11:30:56, leerichards wrote:
No SEUS update for me??

Unbranded UK K800i with CDA 102511/2 R4A

SEUS says no update, so I'm still on R1GB001 whereas the first page says latest f/w is Unbranded UK (CDA102511/2) - R1JG001

Anyone else in the same position?

Lee


Yeah, exactly the same for me, right down to the CDA and current firmware version

Posted by bodum
it's not a duplication as in actual duplication of the entry. it's just there, and when you try to delete it or something, the phone will restart itself. and i'm very sure it's not a memory stick backup.

Posted by maldus
hey guys
i guess you'll must have seen the new version of seus....

its definitely way better than the previous versions.... u get to select your phone here.....
though i doubt there might be an option for selecting the personalised update for a different region

Posted by baste07
yeah the interface is different ... and yup.. high improbable ifthey let you select the region

Posted by Neo-Tech
I noticed that as well a few weeks ago or should i say 2 weeks ago

Posted by AndySoft
I am using R1GB001 on my K800 Orange branded phone in Romania, and I find it very stable, as for the video bug you can view them in a list mode and there is no preview, so the phone doesn't "crash".... anyway I'm not a video fan.
My operator excluded from this firmware the Blog and the Update Service options beside and of course the icons , but I very pleased with the phone as it is.

Posted by maldus
hey i have a few questions for people who have upgraded to R1Kc001 via wotan...

1. the upper left key next to the earpiece can it be used to scroll images in standby and in the file manager ?? has this been resolved?

2. by pressing the '#' key the available writing options didnt have numbers in R1JG001. has that changed in this new f/w?

i have faced two problems in R1JG001

1. the contact pictures stopped displaying all of a sudden. after setting the picturs to the contacts again the same problem happened. it was resolved only after restarting the phone.

2.when new messages would arrive mesage alert would ring but no pop-up or activity menu would be displayed. messages had to be opened after going into the inbox. the new message symbol was shown on top of the screen. after restarting the phone it was all right.

so this new java system dont seem that stable....

also suppose i send a msg and leave the phone as it is , auto keypad doesnt get locked due to the delivery report/ i have to click ok for the delivery report and only then when the screen is free of any messages the keypad locks. this was present even in R1GB001

[ This Message was edited by: maldus on 2007-04-11 18:09 ]


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