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Posted by poutsaras
guys,excuse me for this offtopic question but what is CID?For example,i updated my K800i on Wotan using R1JG001,CID 52 firmware.What are the differences between CID 51 and CID 52?


Posted by JAGUY85
I just got back another K800 this time the Hong Kong version. When I updated the firmware, I got version R1JG001. Which of the above firmware is this? Or is this entirely different? I have no idea how to check for any changes.

Posted by Prayog
Just updated my k790 in india.Update available is R1JG001 , previously my phone was detected as K790c , but today when I ran the update ,the phone is being recognized as K790i.Why is this difference?

Posted by hanugro

On 2007-03-28 08:14:56, Prayog wrote:
Just updated my k790 in india.Update available is R1JG001 , previously my phone was detected as K790c , but today when I ran the update ,the phone is being recognized as K790i.Why is this difference?

I think c is just for China? Is this the first time SEUS change the model name?

Posted by Sky Hi
Well, it finally seems that k800 is the most buggy SE phone at least I've ever came up to. After flashing it with JG001 in SE service center some days ago, the following happened for the 2nd time (the 1st was before with the JC002): while I was charching it with the device off, I pushed a random button to check whether it was charged or not. There was just a line remaining (on the battery picture). After the light of the screen went off and the time screensaver appeared the phone hunged for a few minutes. The time on the screen was stuck and the phone didn't respond EVEN when I took the battery out! It just came back after a few minutes.
Has this ever happened to anyone else? I REALLY hate it when I come up to bugs, because I think k800 is the best phone on the market for the time being.

Posted by Lambalisa
I just updated to R1JG001. And I was wondering whats new? R1JG001 is not listed in the first page of this threat.

Before I had version R1ED001.

Posted by sapporobaby
Still talking about a phone that is almost a year old and already obsolete.

Carry on.

Posted by Lambalisa
@sapporobaby

Your point is?

Posted by Mal M
I upgraded my firmware over SEUS to R1JE001

For some reason it changed my customisation from generic to Hutchinson. IE, the icons have all changed, and references to "phone" have been changed to "videophone".

The CDA is 102511/83 EUROPE_2. Previously, when updated it's just given me generic firmware. Phone has never been reflashed with anything other than SEUS and is not a vendor supplied phone.

BTW, the Hutch icons are ugly!

[ This Message was edited by: Mal M on 2007-03-29 06:12 ]

Posted by mdou
@ Lambalisa

Sapporobaby is only trying to get a rise out of you - you may notice he likes a good flame.

The point is he is still reading a thread about an obsolete phone

Posted by aremaboy
just flashed my K800i R1JG001 with K810i R1KC001 firmware via Wotan Server Client. For the sake of my curiosity. It went smoothly without problem. The flash took about 6 minutes. Here are my findings:

1. The keypad light is troublesome. The light won't turn on on C button, joystick, Back button, left and right softkeys, internet browser button and Activity menu button. The first row keypad, keypad 1, 2 and 3 are dimmer in terms of backlight. Compared to K800i backlight quality, of course this conversion is dimmer. Indeed, in terms of hardware, K810i has the bluish baklight around the joystick and on left side of the body ( Photo Light or something I don't quite remember what it is). So when put in a total darkness, you know what happens. The lights are only seen on keypad row 2, 3 and 4. The row 1 is dimmer..weaker...What a disappointment. I understand it, though, it's a "fake K810i"...LOL...the designer of K810i has created this 'hardware' differences of course.
Anyway when you open the lens cover, the light is just fine on the joystick and the other buttons/softkeys around it..but the keypad row 4 gets dimmer...what a "style".

2. We won't see playing video thumbnail anymore as we find in K800i with R1JG001. When we highlight the video thumbnail, it keeps still just like ordinary jpeg picture file. No playing preview. What a disappointment, really. A step backwards...

3. No "big" improvement in PhotoFix. It indeed makes the darker picture increase in terms of contrast and brightness. I think the ordinary PhotoDJ is enough. Adobe Photoshop will do better.

3. Yes, the TrackID is there. Have no time to check, though. I don't need this feature. I am not a crazy fan of music. Music is just 20% of my life...hehe..

4. The date of firmware shows 070318.
5. Java is updated to version 7.4.
6. Update Service Agent (FOTA) is the same as K790 and K800i.
7. I tried to run SEUS. It recognised this "K810i" as K800i. Funny. It said " Update your phone. File selected APAC". You can conclude what....LOL. I wouldn't know what happen if I continued Continue...it might be turning the phone back to K800i or something...so I exited SEUS.
8. A new game pre-installed there...Extreme Snowboarding.. You'll miss PhotoQuest fishing then...LOL
9. The PC recognises it as K810. But in phone mode, no appropriate drivers are available already at the moment.

10. In conclusion, disappointing. No need to update your K800i to K810i mainly because of the above points I posted.

And finally, I flashed the phone back to K800i R1JG001 firmware. Enough for the experiment. Cheers.


[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-03-30 08:42 ]

Posted by fender62
i up dated from R1ED001 to R1GB001 on the 20/03/07 i didnt get the newer update R1JG001, i even tried via the phone service update and seus, no joy
im on orange whats wrong?


Posted by vegetaleb
What is SE waiting for releasing a new FW?
I am stucked with 2 big bugs since december: Video preview and 0 memory!
OK I can live with them but it's a shame to let them run on our phones since more than 3 months,common SE you are not nokio!

Posted by hanugro

On 2007-03-30 11:43:20, vegetaleb wrote:
What is SE waiting for releasing a new FW?
I am stucked with 2 big bugs since december: Video preview and 0 memory!
OK I can live with them but it's a shame to let them run on our phones since more than 3 months,common SE you are not nokio!


The 0 memory is fixed by R1GB and video preview is fixed by R1JG

Posted by vegetaleb
I have R1GB and the 0 memory bug is still here,R1J is on wotan not SEUS

Posted by capuera

On 2007-03-30 13:42:30, vegetaleb wrote:
I have R1GB and the 0 memory bug is still here,R1J is on wotan not SEUS



R1JG001 is on SEUS, but probably not for all CDA's and it is also on FOTA.

The 0 memory bug it was solved in R1JG.

Posted by aremaboy
Even R1KC001 is released only for Central Europe and some operators.

Posted by hanugro

On 2007-03-30 13:42:30, vegetaleb wrote:
I have R1GB and the 0 memory bug is still here,R1J is on wotan not SEUS


Weird my R1GB didn't got the bug.

Posted by Neo-Tech
Find 2 new bugs:

After looking at some pictures in the file manager. Thne you go in to the Text Message Editor the last picture you viewed will come as the background.
I know loads of you are probably saying that the joystick has been fixed but it hasn't. It's a pain in the ass, I have air blastered it as well along with that massage thing that aremaboy said.

One good thing:

After updating to R1JG001 you may notice that the phone is a bit slow. But within a few weeks it will be fast again. And if you load a Java game and then reboot it will come up in 2 secs within opening it up.
I have one more thing to add but I have forgot

Posted by aremaboy
I'll try R1KC001 later, when APAC is available. Wotan keeps adding more custpacks it seems. APAC isn't available as of now.

Posted by deiwis
i dont wnt to ound stupid here but which is the latest firmware?

Posted by hanugro

On 2007-03-30 23:58:37, deiwis wrote:
i dont wnt to ound stupid here but which is the latest firmware?

On SEUS R1JG and Wotan R1KC. But may not available to all customizations!

Posted by naveensiva
guysi think

R1JG001


is released on seus ...

please confirm this ..

few minutesd before i updated ... mine is china model..

and can anyone give wht the new features and bugs in it ..

it will be nice..

but one thi9ng so far i have noticed is sound seems to be some wht increased..ie volume is increased..

and as they said before there is no still jpeg pic for videos... u can see preview in the file manager..

phone is slighlty slow... i dont know why..

but can be due to theme i am usu\\ing..

please report ur findings guys ...and please somebody change the first page and include that this firmware is available on SEUS....

Posted by bodum
it's been released for a bit now, early this month if i'm not mistaken. scroll back a few pages and you can read about the findings regarding the firmware.

Posted by JWM
I updated my K800i to R1J. I found one bug. When I play the video clips, the screen server appears immediately before the beginning of the next clip. Do you face this problem as well?

Posted by bodum
i don't play videos on my k800, so no help to you there, mate .


Posted by aremaboy
I just tried to update a friend's K800i, to R1KC001 via WotanServer---he just said OK to change his CDA to EUROPE 5 from APAC as he thought he just needed English and German---good then, so I can do an experiment with this new R1KC001. The flashing went smoothly. In general it's similar to K810i R1KC001 firmware. Here are my findings so far:

1. No more video preview in File manager. The video keeps still, NOT playing when being highlighted, unlike the previous firmwares. So, IMHO it is done to improve stability or a step backwards?? I don't know.

2. Java is updated to version 7.4. More stability again?

3. Content is now PA 30, Text is revised to version CB, and Wotan uploaded new Customisation version R6A. The date of all pre-installed files turn into March 18, 2007. No improvement in Camera driver. IMEI is added with '34' info at the last digit, which is normal.

4. The date of firmware checked from the built-in Update Service is 070318 ( March 18, 2007). So it's totally fresh from the oven.

5. Don't worry, SEUS still recognises the phone.

6. The changes of font look in Java games and applications. In some part, the font is thinner and smaller in size compared to previous firmwares, also there is a visible distinction between the bold and regular fonts. When viewing Opera Mini, for instance, it's different. I don't know if it is because of EUROPE 5 custpack. I am too familiar with APAC..
It looks 'classy' much now. Just my personal impression.

7. When starting the phone for the 1st time, after fully flashing it, it asks you to download setting--WAP and MMS settings. Then you get the SEMC WAP setting with your local operator parameter. It's new to me. My R1JG doesn't have it. It may deal with Wotan newly revised R6A customisation.

8. Very minor GUI changes when texting. Notice the font indicator--Aa,A, a-- is re-positioned more to right side. It used to be exactly at the center of 'Input text' section.

9. As usual Wotan leaves a strange info under customisation. This time is still 99E0W. 99 Errors 0 Warning. Believe me, I took out the SIM Card and M2, fully charged the battery to 100 percent, and follow each step of flashing carefully. So Wotan, what can you say now? That I changed my CDA? I got the same 99E0W with the original 'from-factory' CDA before.

EDIT: Wotan just said it's the problem of the customisation file itself. This '99E0W' doesn't affect the phone functionality itself. Thanks God, then.

10. After finished updating my RSS Feed, I turned off the phone for a reason. When powered on again, I noticed the RSS icon at the top! It was just gone when I went to RSS menu. Old bug reappears? No idea. Tried many times, with different SIM Cards too, the RSS icon still appears at startup.

11. Anytime you changed SIM card, you won't be prompted questions like choose your language, copy SIM contacts and other tips. This seems to appear only if you just flash the phone totally, turn it on for the very first time, and you have no settings chosen yet--you haven't picked up languages, contacts, etc. I have tried 3 different SIM Card and after powering on it skips the queries I mentioned before. New to me. In all previous f/ws, I did have these prompts.

12. The phone fails to play .svg animated image when viewed from File Manager. Instead, it gives blank white screen, which is acually launching the Netfront Web Browser. It's an old story, however.

EDIT: I finally flashed my K800i too after exploring my mate's phone for hours. It seems the stability is OK. I have the same EUROPE 5 custpack now. Miss my Indonesian language, though...LOL. I got French, Italian and German now. And, the internal memory increases to 71 MB free. It seems different CDA means varied free phone memory.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-04-01 02:35 ]

Posted by JWM
What about video recording. Still QVGA?

Posted by Horonaim
@JWM

K800/K810 never even had QVGA video recording.

_________________
I K800 | I 810i(current)

[ This Message was edited by: Horonaim on 2007-03-31 11:29 ]

Posted by Neo-Tech

On 2007-03-31 06:35:18, naveensiva wrote:
guysi think

R1JG001


is released on seus ...

please confirm this ..

few minutesd before i updated ... mine is china model..

and can anyone give wht the new features and bugs in it ..

it will be nice..

but one thi9ng so far i have noticed is sound seems to be some wht increased..ie volume is increased..

and as they said before there is no still jpeg pic for videos... u can see preview in the file manager..

phone is slighlty slow... i dont know why..

but can be due to theme i am usu\\ing..

please report ur findings guys ...and please somebody change the first page and include that this firmware is available on SEUS....


Yo! your phone will be faster in a few weeks and you will be glad that you did that

Posted by prabu
I am from India and updated via SEUS to R1JG001

Posted by aremaboy
R1KC001 K800i is 'the same as' R1KC001 K810i, minus Photofix and TrackID. As I said before, K800i can be updated with K810i f/w--if only they are of the same CID and you don't care much about 'ugly' keypad backlightin. Tried once and converted back to the original K800i.

Posted by naveensiva
HOW CAN IT BECOME FASST WITHIN A WEEK I DONT GET U MACHANIC

CAN U EXPLAIN???

Posted by Neo-Tech
I said a few weeks, can you not write in capitals as it puts people off

Posted by MrZippy
R1JE001 is now available on SEUS for 3-UK.

Posted by SE Rules
Whats the news with hte latest firmware and O2UK??

Cheers

Posted by Neo-Tech
@SE Rules, As you may know that the last O2 Branded Firmware was R1ED001. Then 2 new unbranded firmwares came out (R1GB001 and R1JC002). So the latest O2 firmware is R1JG001. I would upgrade because its hardly got any major bugs

Posted by sapporobaby

On 2007-03-29 00:12:33, Lambalisa wrote:
@sapporobaby

Your point is?


Relax dude. It was a joke.

You are lucky to have Hanugro and Aremaboy here helping out. These guys know their stuff.

Posted by Neo-Tech
You forgot to mention me. I made a guide on fixing a dead K800i

Posted by Mizzle
New firmware is out for K800 on SEUS. Downloading as we speak.

EDIT:

EUROPE 4

R1JG001
EROM: R3A011
LCD: 200610121
Camera: 2.5
Videocamera: 2.3
CDA102568/13 R4A
Java: JP-7.3
Text: BT

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I my P990
I my K800
I myself

[ This Message was edited by: thecoolsha on 2007-04-02 16:33 ]

[ This Message was edited by: thecoolsha on 2007-04-02 17:02 ]

Posted by tai020381
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Posted by SE Rules
Hi guys,

Just wanna say thanks to machanic, for the quick response, but I've got a problem anyone can help with.

I'm updating my K800 on SEUS, once it gets to the point where it recognises your phone, it asks me if I want to update, then it downloads the new firmware, but when installing, the progress bar shoots straight to 98% and the software restarts, leaving my phone not updated. Any ideas on this one?

Cheers

Posted by Maddreg
Hi, you r writing about updating to R1JG firmware. But my phone (R1GB) can't be updated via SEUS or FOTA both are writing "you have already the latest firmware" I didn't update it before. I bought absolutely new phone without any sim lock. cid is 51 unfortunately. I'm quite satisfied with firmware I have, but It makes me crazy that I can't update it like other people. I read on russian forums that people also updating their firmware to R1JG via FOTA (via SEUS the latest is R1GB). I have t-mobile D (I'm in Germany now), but I don't think that it's really matters. I don't want to try Davinci or Wotan. Maybe some one knows what's the problem?

Posted by adnansanni

On 2007-04-02 19:24:43, SE Rules wrote:
Hi guys,

Just wanna say thanks to machanic, for the quick response, but I've got a problem anyone can help with.

I'm updating my K800 on SEUS, once it gets to the point where it recognises your phone, it asks me if I want to update, then it downloads the new firmware, but when installing, the progress bar shoots straight to 98% and the software restarts, leaving my phone not updated. Any ideas on this one?

Cheers


I have the same problem and mine is O2-R1ED001

Posted by bodum
it could be problems with your PC, and not the phone itself? try reinstalling the latest version of SEUS and try again? not too sure though, i'm sure i read about that somewhere in THIS thread.

and for t-mobile, maybe the latest firmware IS R1GB? if i'm not mistaken, different operators have different requirements for firmware upgrades. when we're talking about R1JG via SEUS, i believe it's for generic versions of the k800 and not operator branded ones.

hope that helps you guys..

Posted by Maddreg
I tried to reinstall SEUS couple times but it didn't help. I'll try to do it on another computer, maybe it will help. My phone is not branded (i can use it with simcard of any operator) so it doesn't depend on operator. But thanx anyway, I'll try to search trough all 237 pages I bought wotan account, cuz I need russian language and don't need cid 52, so probably it's the best variant...


I tried another computer - the same story. Internet connection is quite good (100 MBit/s). Wotan, I'm going to you...

[ This Message was edited by: Maddreg on 2007-04-03 00:32 ]

Posted by bodum
good luck with that, mate. the thread itself is 'quite' long, so have fun reading . maybe it is your computer, or maybe your internet connection...

Posted by Maddreg
Ok, so I updated my firmware via wotan to R1JC002 cid 51, and then, phone has found update via FOTA (596kb). The version of firmware is R1JG001 cid 52.

[ This Message was edited by: Maddreg on 2007-04-03 03:01 ]

Posted by SE Rules
I reinstalled SEUS, but it did exactly the same thing... I really can't be bothered to pay for Wotan when SE has the update, it's just their crappy software letting me down!

Cheers

PS My K800 is R1ED, I forgot to mention on the previos post.

PPS: Where exactly do you find your CID, because I've been looking in the software part of the menu, and it says nothing about CID49 etc? Cheers

[ This Message was edited by: SE Rules on 2007-04-03 10:41 ]

Posted by aremaboy
SE Rules, try to delete the db folder in Update Service folder. And launch SEUS again. See what happens.


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