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Posted by hanugro

On 2007-03-07 14:28:59, Cirieno wrote:
Hi all. I used WotanClient to flash my K800i to the latest firmware last night, and I've had no problems (didn't realise it would perform a master reset, but I didn't lose anything vital).

I would like to ask some questions and make some suggestions though:

1. The client should inform people that it will erase EVERYTHING and that people should backup before continuing. I know it should be obvious, but it caught me out and I'm reasonably tech-savvy.

2. Each firmware revision changes certain things. Is it possible to *turn off* some of the changes. For example, after flashing, my menu icons "bounce" large to small and back again. I didn't really want that, I prefer no icon animation -- so is there a way to undo or unset an option (and if not, can that flexibility be programed in?)

3. The backlight issue has to be one of the most frustrating things about this otherwise brilliant phone! The backlight will turn off after 10 seconds which sometimes isn't even long enough to think while composing a text sometimes. Can there be an option to extend the backlight time?

If not, can some enterprising soul write a Java app that could run in the background to manage the backlight, maybe dimming it after 30 seconds or so?

4. On my T610 moving the joystick would bring the phone out of standby. This doesn't happen on the K800i. Could that be an added option?

5. This phone doesn't have a very advanced contact manager -- that is, all contacts are in a long list with no grouping. However, you can set up groups if you go down a long menu path (I think the groups are for texting). As a workaround, I would like to make a shortcut to the groups menu, but can't as the GUI stands. Would it be possible to make the shortcut system more flexible and go to sub, or subsub menus?

6. Is it possible to put the "new contact" button at the bottom of the list or off the list altogether? How often does one really add a new contact?..


I know this are a lot of requests here. As a web designer/developer I do a lot of GUI and interaction testing and have ideas to offer, I just don't know if a) the ideas are possible to implement and b) if the Wotan guys will take suggestions on board? I'm really impressed that they can do what they do though, and I hope they're good guys who listen to what average users suggest?

Thanks everyone.



Sorry something happen in dSLR word that take my attention last few days.

1. Yeah I also suprised since I am used to SEUS and kulan&wotan completely reflash my wife's Z610. Thankfully I got older backup but newer contacts was gone.

2. No, you need customization (change some xml) for that and SE CID51 is secure enough that no software can do it yet. Hopefully within month it could be done.

3. I think as long as you pressing something (as when you are SMS-ing) the backlight will continue on? Mine did.

4. That a feature so that the phone LCD won't woke up easily in your pants. I think SE get it correct to preserve batt.

5. You have to ask SE to do that. But frankly why would you need group other than for sms? Not that you can talk to more than two person in the same time with GSM anyway.

6. Once in a while for me. Why it bother you to scroll just one step below? You can jump search names using the keys anyway. It does not really matter as you can jump to names start with D by pressing key 3 once.


Posted by Hrc4u
new update available over @ FOTA..
downloaded it a while ago..
R1JG001.....
have a nice day!

btw i live in Sweden....
/H

Posted by siriosechi1


R1JG001 also available via FOTA in Belgium

Posted by milda2000
R1JG001 CENT_EUROPE download ready from FOTA. Size cca 1330 kb.

Milda

Posted by ghostfreak
I was surprised to see an update when I searched for one with FOTA - anyone updated with this method?

Posted by jazon168
why arnt they updating SEUS!!!??

Posted by baste07
what's the new updates on the new FW?

Posted by Dovern
Hey guys! may i know what is the URL for FOTA?

thanks!

Posted by modafroman
Does anyone know if its possible to do a FOTA update using this method: http://myforum.lasyk.net/show[....]p?p=289508&posted=1#post289508

It says there is an update, but its 2mb, which is $10 worth of GRPS charges :|

Posted by aremaboy
OK, so R1JG001 is out. For those with this new firmware, please report any changes. Usually the date of f/w and also the f/w info or details. Don't just say a new f/w is out but leaving further info untouched. What we know so far FOTA is the only way to get it. Wotan, SEUS? No.

Posted by BlacK Devil
well just noticed a very annoying bug at my k800 ... i have a alarm set on during the week and sometimes only the alarm goes off, no backlight

it's so anoying to start searching for the phone in the dark and then unlock the keypad

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2007-03-10 10:00:17, BlacK Devil wrote:
well just noticed a very annoying bug at my k800 ... i have a alarm set on during the week and sometimes only the alarm goes off, no backlight

it's so anoying to start searching for the phone in the dark and then unlock the keypad



Which f/w is that?

Posted by BlacK Devil
ah sry i forgot to state

it's R1GB001

don't know why but this ain't listed in the "new bugs" section

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Posted by aremaboy
When I got R1GB I didn't experience that. Have you tried running SEUS? Just test it now. Who knows you have a new f/w update and report here.

Posted by chadiwrx

On 2007-03-10 09:54:00, aremaboy wrote:
OK, so R1JG001 is out. For those with this new firmware, please report any changes. Usually the date of f/w and also the f/w info or details. Don't just say a new f/w is out but leaving further info untouched. What we know so far FOTA is the only way to get it. Wotan, SEUS? No.


I just updated firmware using FOTA & i'm in Oz.
I haven't noticed any changes just that my free phone memory before update was 71mb after update is 72mb free.

Software version: R1JG001
EROM: R3A016
LCD: 200610121
Camera: 2.5
Videocall camera: 2.3
Content: PA29
Java: 7.3
Text: BT
Update Service SW
UA version:
CRH1069179 R3B021
2006-10-12 08:47

Posted by aremaboy
Thanks. It's all exactly the same as R1JC002. What's the date of the firmware? R1JC002 is 070122. Please, find on Sofware Info. It's below your Update Search menu. Is that of the same date too? Thanks again.

Posted by siriosechi1
R1JG001
070214

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K750i

[ This Message was edited by: siriosechi1 on 2007-03-10 13:11 ]

Posted by chadiwrx

On 2007-03-10 14:11:18, siriosechi1 wrote:
R1JG001
070214



Yes same here

Posted by aremaboy
OK, I got it. Just wait either it's out in SEUS or Wotan Server. FOTA never works for me. Anyone tried SEUS? I simply can't determine whether SEUS has new f/w or not just because I have R1JC002 now. SEUS says I have 'File selected APAC'. I won't never know whether it's R1GB001 or R1JG001..funny, right? Anyone with APAC, please share.

Posted by baste07

On 2007-03-10 13:12:06, chadiwrx wrote:

On 2007-03-10 09:54:00, aremaboy wrote:
OK, so R1JG001 is out. For those with this new firmware, please report any changes. Usually the date of f/w and also the f/w info or details. Don't just say a new f/w is out but leaving further info untouched. What we know so far FOTA is the only way to get it. Wotan, SEUS? No.


I just updated firmware using FOTA & i'm in Oz.
I haven't noticed any changes just that my free phone memory before update was 71mb after update is 72mb free.

Software version: R1JG001
EROM: R3A016
LCD: 200610121
Camera: 2.5
Videocall camera: 2.3
Content: PA29
Java: 7.3
Text: BT
Update Service SW
UA version:
CRH1069179 R3B021
2006-10-12 08:47


looks the same as R1JC002

Posted by andre_cool
wish seus could let the new firmware out

Posted by meptik
I updated to R1JG001 yesterday.

When watching some videos this morning, I noticed a strange bug: when playing videos from the Video player(not from File manager), my K800i now switches to the screensaver(clock display w/o backlight) when moving from one vid to the next. Playback of the next file is started, but until the screensaver is cancelled by a short press of the back key only the audio can be heard.

Anyone else encounter this?

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meptik

Posted by darrengf
I have a a Generic Version 2 (Europe) of the k800i

I originaly had on R1JC002 from Wotan server, I have then today updated the phone using the SEUS service the phone as it did say a new software version is ava.

The phone downgraded it self to R1GB001.

However I then went on to use the FOTA update and this time it said I have a new updated 2.8mb.
so i let the phone update it self.

Now i have R1JG001.

Cant see any difference to R1JC002, but if i do i will let you know



Posted by SE-Naz
What network is your phone darrengf

Cheers
ENJOY

Posted by matssu
Hi,

This message was posted from a K800i

Posted by darrengf
My network im on is O2 but the phone is Generic (No branding on at all)

It did have o2 branding until i debranded it.

I have all the network sim cards and tried them all in the phone and not had any problems with anything like sms or mms.

I did the update over Orange 3g as I have a orange payg and it only cost me £1 a day for 25mb of wap and internet use.

I would have used o2 as again i have free wap and internet use, but currenlty have no 02 3g so it would have been a lot slower thats all to download 2.9 mb.

Hope the above helps.




Posted by SE-Naz
Cheers for that

ENJOY

Posted by matssu
Hi, my earlier msge shld have read: Do U or anyone else know what improvemets with new F/W R1JG001 compared with F/W R1JC002 are?/Matt

This message was posted from a K800i

Posted by Dovern
anyone here using APAC version of R1J?

Posted by DKCoo
elo! new thing found in R1JG001! turn off ur k800 then put the charge in, wen it is fully charged it will obviously say 'fully charged' as usual but look in the top left corner and a new little picture of the phone is there! pointless but's its new lol!

Posted by aremaboy
Quote:

On 2007-03-11 11:23:27, Dovern wrote:
anyone here using APAC version of R1J?




I also wonder why R1JG001 APAC is NOT released via FOTA. We're stuck at R1GB001 unless we use Wotan.

Posted by nats168

On 2007-03-10 07:54:55, modafroman wrote:
Does anyone know if its possible to do a FOTA update using this method: http://myforum.lasyk.net/show[....]p?p=289508&posted=1#post289508

It says there is an update, but its 2mb, which is $10 worth of GRPS charges :|

Yes. Using FOTA on BT PAN works.

Posted by AngelofDeath
I like Darren have a debranded K800i, originally O2.

I had updated to R1JC002 via FOTA and am now in the process of using FOTA again seemingly to R1JG001. I get £5.00 of my bill each month for GPRS so it should be ok.

Posted by glorfingal
Just out of curiosity did a FOTA check 3 days ago and got R1JG001.
As I've got an O2 UK 3G tariff it took no time at all.

So far haven't found anything to note as changed from R1JC002.

Posted by thetmaxx
so waht does FOTA stand for? I thought this was something like Wotan? but it sounds like it's the phones built in updater? and you can use it with BT PAN?!?! yay I may be getting the new firmware tonight!! (pending FOTA is what it sounds like it is...)

another question, do you think this will be the last update? (R1JC002) will k800i FW's be abandoned due to age? I've never read, are older phones like k750 still getting updates?
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Posted by darrengf
Oh no, Dont like Branding. Although o2 branding is minimul and was no problem at all. But i like the play now function so that was it of it went, lol
o2 are the best for non branding there phone and on contract not locking them. So hats of to them. If they can have he phone how SE made it, why cant other networks!

I had a Orange Branded phone (K750)and god that was awful, that went as soon as it came out of the box, infact i didnt even switch the phone on.

When i got it from the shop, the person asked if i wanted to look at the phone, I told nope i hate the orange branding, but in 30 mins it will back to how SE had intended the phone to be. The guy looked very confused but said well our services wont work, I told him oh yes they do and showed him my other phone. He took one look at the phone and said, wow is that what its supposed to look like. I just shook yep. * How God intended it to be * and told him how to debrand hi phone and the website. Another happy person lol.

Any way, use the update serivce on the phone the phone will update to the latest revision.

** People who have Orange and 3 branded phones. Sorry you can't do this, as your network removed the function **

I cant say for Vodafone, or t-mobile. i dont know if the function has been removed or not.

O2 and Genric phones should have the function and should have no problems at all. See How god intended the phone to be


Opps and I forgot to add.

FOTA. = Firmware Over the Air-update.

Click on Menu
Then go to settings (The Spanner Icon)
nd in genral scroll down until it says Update service.

If it isnt there. You network has removed it

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-03-12 21:52 ]

Posted by aremaboy
Yes, and FOTA does not work for all regions! I have never got any new firmware anytime I run FOTA. So, it's region-based program.

Posted by Eestimees
The Lastest firmware fixed the sound or is it just me

Posted by thetmaxx
My phone does have the option, and i know it has worked before, because once it told me there was a update of 36mb!! but i wasn't paying for that.

just tried it over the FOTA, and it says I already have the latest FW R1GB001. So apparently not available in USA at this time... Figures, we are last on everything.

Posted by engbooi
i've just gotten R1JG001 off SEUS

Posted by spud_work
Have the UK service providers given up on firmware updates then? Doesn't seem to have been one released for ages (unless page 1 isn't up to date of course)

Posted by Horonaim

On 2007-03-13 00:20:43, engbooi wrote:
i've just gotten R1JG001 off SEUS


there we go.

Posted by aremaboy

On 2007-03-13 00:20:43, engbooi wrote:
i've just gotten R1JG001 off SEUS


Hi, is that APAC customisation? Strange, mine says my firmware is the latest. Please, tell us.

Posted by poutsaras
R1JG001 is the latest version on FOTA for MEDITERR.

Posted by thetmaxx
R1JG001 via SEUS Successful!!! My menu is animated again like after the last update but shortly stopped working...

Sound quality may be better, but it may be all in my head...

Posted by ahbhu
just now i updated my k800 at seus.... im r1jgoo1 now.... r1jg001 is available in seus...
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Posted by andre_cool

On 2007-03-12 23:06:55, Eestimees wrote:
The Lastest firmware fixed the sound or is it just me


how so?

Posted by andre_cool
just updated to R1JG001...via seus....im from the philippines.....finally after months of waiting....

Posted by Dovern
updating now.... finally its available for APAC version

Posted by danielcps

On 2007-03-13 07:04:39, Dovern wrote:
updating now.... finally its available for APAC version



Are you getting R1JG001 firmware?


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