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Posted by maldus
i agree with that!!

my friend has the k800i which ain't available officially in india. and its got the french version firmware.

there's nothing he can do about it.


Posted by oringi
Hi everyone . I have downloaded the last firmware version for k800 via FOTA. I had R1GB and now i have R1JC. It took about 30 min. Go for it.
I have MEDITERR market version




This message was posted from a K800i

[ This Message was edited by: oringi on 2007-02-24 19:40 ]

[ This Message was edited by: oringi on 2007-02-24 19:41 ]

Posted by dj christian
where is fota?

Posted by Brankar
In your phone

Posted by mravcek
Quote:

On 2007-02-23 00:13:42, krazeekev wrote:
I called SE here in the United States and they gave me 2 options:

1.) Send them the phone and pay $135 for them to "fix" it, and by fixing it he said "doing the same thing you can do online, only in more detail"

2.) Try updating the software online again


I opted for the 2nd choice and when I did it the 2nd time around I updated it in German, and not in English (like I had done the 1st time)...I don't know why, but now everything works fine!!!


ONE HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS to "fix" my phone??? SE is crazy!!!



Thank you very much. I did it with different "language" too and IT DOES HELP
And software is deffinitely different - before I used UK language and Camera software was 2.4, the second time I used Slovak language and Camera software is 2.5 and backlight works perfectly.
Thanks again

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-23 12:11:45, hanugro wrote:
It is my understanding (read somewhere on the net) that the language is just for interface and then SEUS will automatically choose the right firmware (like you may choose traditional chinese for SEUS dialog - only Taiwan and HGK still uses this - but if your mobile is APAC - which consist only easy (edit: simplified is correct word) chinese - then SEUS still updates it with APAC firmware. So that should conclude that the language you choose for SEUS dialog is not tied to the CDA/language of firmware.



Quote:

On 2007-02-23 15:24:36, sapporobaby wrote:
The fact about SE as I got it from the local SE SVC CTR is that the SEUS does look at the region where the phone is localized for, i.e. Germany or Kuwait, or China and offers a language pack for that particular region. Mirrors do exist but only facilitates a faster download of the local language pack to an area closer to where you are. If you care to test this, buy a phone outside of your region and see what language pack is chose. I have a phone from Kuwait, and when I tried to upgrade it, I got a language pack for the region where it was purchased: ASIA.



Now read again carefully. Isn't you just confirming what I said. The language choice in SEUS is NOT TIED to firmware CDA that you downloaded. You CAN'T change your APAC customization to EURO customization by simply choosing Germany in SEUS. I ALWAYS use US English to upgrade my APAC (Asean region) phone and SEUS always install APAC firmware for me automatically.

What I SPECULATE is when you choose Germany instead of one of APAC country (like Indonesia) in SEUS that may actually cause SEUS to download your APAC firmware from Europe FTP site instead of APAC firmware from Asean FTP site. The file you download should be identical still APAC but there is a chance one of them is corrupt (like the first poster MIGHT experience), isn't it?
EDIT: To think again it is even better for SEUS to check the IP address so that it can direct to nearest Mirror server. But it will not explain why the OP make it work by choosing Germany instead of US English. Aremaboy also said US English work and Indonesia don't so it must go to different server (If SEUS check for IP address it will direct you to nearest server (same one) over and over again regardless your choice of language). - If this confuse you more then just don't discuss it and skip to paragraph below.

Now can we close this topic as it is very clear we are talking about same thing. This is not about K800 firmware in specific and it should be in separate thread alltogether.

[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-02-24 02:06 ]

Posted by baste07
just bear with her... it will only be close if he has the last word... so just humor her by saying she's "right" and all mighty

Posted by vanity
x2 on you hanugro

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anyways i had an r1g firmware and latest EROM..
but my fone is dead again... first characters on my fone are garbled and its not charging via USB. when i tried rebooting my fone it doesnt seem to work.. arggg...
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is this firmware corrupt? or my erom problem, had this the second time prior upgrading to r1gb by SESC
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Can anyone confirm or have an idea when will be the r1j released??? im gonna bring back my k800 to SE SC before my 3months waranty expires.. that will be next month expiration...

will my waranty of fw upgrade renewed if i bring my fone back for re-repair/flashing??



Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2007-02-24 03:17:34, baste07 wrote:
just bear with her... it will only be close if he has the last word... so just humor her by saying she's "right" and all mighty



At least he has something intelligent to offer. What can you provide other than your mom's phone number and a good time?

Every post you make proves how little you know about anything.

Posted by hanugro
Guys can we put this to rest. Pls keep on the topics (K800 firmware).

What we learn about this is ppl can at least try using different language interface in SEUS if something is wrong after SEUS flashing. It might take you to other mirror server that have firmware which is not corrupt.

Also it is not just the firmware that reside on the server that can corrupt. The transmission/download also may cause corrupt file (it just took 1 false bit to make your mobile does not work as it should) even though the original file is OK. Who knows there is surge spike along the transmission line.

Mind you that you will still get firmware according to your mobile CDA string!

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-24 03:23:47, vanity wrote:
x2 on you hanugro

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anyways i had an r1g firmware and latest EROM..
but my fone is dead again... first characters on my fone are garbled and its not charging via USB. when i tried rebooting my fone it doesnt seem to work.. arggg...
----
is this firmware corrupt? or my erom problem, had this the second time prior upgrading to r1gb by SESC
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Can anyone confirm or have an idea when will be the r1j released??? im gonna bring back my k800 to SE SC before my 3months waranty expires.. that will be next month expiration...

will my waranty of fw upgrade renewed if i bring my fone back for re-repair/flashing??



I have been waiting for R1JC for ages. Seems some FOTA has it and some don't. Don't have a need to change CDA and no problems with R1GB at all so I just wait for SEUS. If SE won't release it also fine for me.
You got very short warranty time there. I thought SE has standard 1 year warranty.
As far as I know your warranty is counted from the first time you bought your phone and won't be extended. But it depend on SE policy in your country. What local SE authorized service center give me is 1 month warranty on any repair. But this warranty only valid for the same problem.
If you are really desperate you may try wotan/kulan/DVT flashing as it is full reflash. But make sure their client can recognize your phone by pressing C button first. Otherwise you will waste your money buying credit.


[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-02-24 05:22 ]

Posted by hojx93
When will R1JC002 be out in SEUS/service centres?

Posted by vanity
@hanugro
what i meant for my waranty is my fw warranty.. they gave me 3months from the time they reflashed my fone...

my fone crashed again after more than a month..

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-23 15:48:19, maldus wrote:
i agree with that!!

my friend has the k800i which ain't available officially in india. and its got the french version firmware.

there's nothing he can do about it.



He can if he is willing to pay. Just use third party to flash to your local customization (you need to search that as I have no idea which CDA India belong to). It void warranty but I doubt the French warranty have much advantage since your friend is in India anyway. The cost of sending the phone back to France for repair will not justified it.

Anyway I change my wife Z610 language from APAC to TAIWAN with Kulan then to HONGKONG with wotan. SEUS will NOT allow this.

[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-02-24 08:29 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2007-02-24 03:48:20, hanugro wrote:
Guys can we put this to rest. Pls keep on the topics (K800 firmware).

What we learn about this is ppl can at least try using different language interface in SEUS if something is wrong after SEUS flashing. It might take you to other mirror server that have firmware which is not corrupt.

Also it is not just the firmware that reside on the server that can corrupt. The transmission/download also may cause corrupt file (it just took 1 false bit to make your mobile does not work as it should) even though the original file is OK. Who knows there is surge spike along the transmission line.

Mind you that you will still get firmware according to your mobile CDA string!



You are almost correct but not quite. You are offered a language choice based on the region of your phone. You can not simply decide if your phone was purchased in China that you want a European language pack. If I am understanding you correct, you continue to make this assumption. Second the f/w is NOT on the server corrupted. You are most likely having a CRC error when downloading. Again, you make false statements without backing them up with facts. You can get a bad install simply because the phone reads something bad. To assume that SE puts corrupted software on its servers is totally insane and misleading. Before I post here, I check with my SE sources to get the facts. You should do the same before you post something that is not correct.

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-24 09:00:22, sapporobaby wrote:
You can not simply decide if your phone was purchased in China that you want a European language pack. If I am understanding you correct, you continue to make this assumption.


Man, I am speechless. Sorry to be rude but you need to learn to read again properly. I have make my point clear that SEUS will only update according to your CDA string whichever language interface you choose. Your brain make that assumption not me. This is getting funny actually

@Baste7: I prepare to let it rest but he is getting my nerve at last.

Quote:

Second the f/w is NOT on the server corrupted. You are most likely having a CRC error when downloading. Again, you make false statements without backing them up with facts. You can get a bad install simply because the phone reads something bad. To assume that SE puts corrupted software on its servers is totally insane and misleading. Before I post here, I check with my SE sources to get the facts. You should do the same before you post something that is not correct.


@Baste7: You are right, he is repeating what I am saying. I guess he just read first sentence of the paragraph then reply based on that, LOL.

Anyway I NEVER say SE put corrupt firmware on PURPOSE. The server may be hit by spike and all data can be corrupt just like that. You can say anything you like but as far as my concern this is the last time I reply about this topics.

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-24 08:38:07, vanity wrote:
@hanugro
what i meant for my waranty is my fw warranty.. they gave me 3months from the time they reflashed my fone...

my fone crashed again after more than a month..



Oh OK, I thought you are talking about hardware warranty. I really have no idea about that, sorry. I guess it will depend on your local service centre policy.

The last time I flash at service centre is pre-SEUS. In 2004 I got problem with erratic keypad and joystick (T630) and they also reflash my firmware and said that I got 1 month warranty if the same problem occur again. Also when I flash my S700 in 2005 (no hardware problem this time) they didn't say anything about firmware warranty.

You just need to ask them about this.

[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-02-24 08:27 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2007-02-24 09:15:51, hanugro wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-02-24 09:00:22, sapporobaby wrote:
You can not simply decide if your phone was purchased in China that you want a European language pack. If I am understanding you correct, you continue to make this assumption.


Man, I am speechless. Sorry to be rude but you need to learn to read again properly. I have make my point clear that SEUS will only update according to your CDA string whichever language interface you choose. Your brain make that assumption not me. This is getting funny actually

@Baste7: I prepare to let it rest but he is getting my nerve at last.

Quote:

Second the f/w is NOT on the server corrupted. You are most likely having a CRC error when downloading. Again, you make false statements without backing them up with facts. You can get a bad install simply because the phone reads something bad. To assume that SE puts corrupted software on its servers is totally insane and misleading. Before I post here, I check with my SE sources to get the facts. You should do the same before you post something that is not correct.


@Baste7: You are right, he is repeating what I am saying. I guess he just read first sentence of the paragraph then reply based on that, LOL.

Anyway I NEVER say SE put corrupt firmware on PURPOSE. The server may be hit by spike and all data can be corrupt just like that. You can say anything you like but as far as my concern this is the last time I reply about this topics.



Quote:
CDA string whichever language interface you choose.



This is what you said. If you do not mean this or understand english well, maybe you can take a course. The SEUS only give you a choice (look up the word) according to your phone. You make it sound like you have multiple choice of language packs. If you did not mean this, then there is a communication problem. Second I simply ask you to post as fact, not as your opinion which you do quite often. I have not seen you back up anything as coming from SE, but simply from your deep well of opinions.

As for the data spikes, once again speculation on your part. You try to speak like an expert but you simply have no clue nor will you back up your assertions. This was my only direct post to you. Most of the time I simply ignore you ramblings and inaccuracies but this time, and the only time I spoke directly to you, you had said somethings that were simply false and misleading. If you do not know then don't speak. There is nothing wrong with not knowing. The bottom line is speak if you know and if not, don't because if I know the answer, I will correct you and embarrass you here and now. It is not about making you look bad but about people having the correct info.

If you didn't know it, there were some really good people in this forum that could run rings around most here but they left because of people such as your best friend batsh_t and others and the fact that people have started making crap posts that are not based in fact.

To jump on the Batsh_t bandwagon puts you in the company of the functional illiterate but that is your decision. You can look as clueless as him if you desire.

Posted by SE Rules
Right guys n girls,
I've been reading this forum for ages now, waiting for small spec of light that is R1G or better coming to O2UK, however all I seem to find is sapporobaby arguing with everyone. Funny how it's not just my back you got up a few months ago, but yuo're doing it to half of esato. You need to grow and realise that you do not own these forums, so stop policing them, if people want to express their opinion or view who are you to stop them. It's all good that you have sources in SE and we thank you for the info that you occasionally bring to the table, but most of the time it is bickering.
So for god's sake, can we let this thread be about K800 firmware and not about each others intelligence or lack of and taking mother's phone numbers. It's rediculous.

Right, I've said my peace, no doubt you will all try to flame me, but what the hell, just look throught the previous pages, there's not a single page without some sort of insult form someone.

Cheers

Posted by vanity
hehehe...
you are right SE RULES... very funny immaturity )

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hope r1j or r1k will be released soon on SEUS..
anyone who has info on this and when will it be out?.. cant wait..
my fone crashed again..

Posted by Sky Hi
TOTALLY agree with SE Rules!

Posted by aremaboy
OK, the war is over. Anyway, where's mwarner anyway? He hasn't updated any findings of R1JC002. I have posted my findings, but no further confirmation nor verification by other R1JC002 users...

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-02-24 15:01 ]

Posted by A L 3 X
still no update to R1JC on SEUS yet, begining to thik about spending a few quid on wotan again

Posted by Brankar
Quote:

On 2007-02-24 13:41:04, Sky Hi wrote:
TOTALLY agree with SE Rules!



yabadabadooooo! yes me too!

Posted by vanity
dont wanna spend yet
what was the longest released by SEUS when the fw is out with wotan?

was it a month ??

r1j will be one month on wotan... hope by next week it will be available on SEUS..

mwarner! any updates?

Posted by utsavtalwar
hi all

eagerly waiting for new firmware revision list...

hope theres some sound improvement..

btw ota is working fine on my k790i in india but it gives an erro saying memory full please delete some...
how much??? already deleted 80mb
cheers
utsav



Posted by Brankar
Quote:

On 2007-02-25 12:36:07, utsavtalwar wrote:
hi all

eagerly waiting for new firmware revision list...

hope theres some sound improvement..

btw ota is working fine on my k790i in india but it gives an erro saying memory full please delete some...
how much??? already deleted 80mb
cheers
utsav




try to delete some files in your phone not on M2card

[ This Message was edited by: Brankar on 2007-02-25 17:13 ]

Posted by hanugro
I am sorry that other esato member hear a pointless rant from me. I have make myself clear in previous post so I should not really say anything more.

@sapporobaby: I have no problem with you. Cheers mate.

Posted by maldus
any idea when is coming out on seus??
it seems to be out on ota at most places

Posted by kalleboo
Here's a big one in R1GB001 that I didn't see in the first post: You can now enable bluetooth in Flight mode!!

Posted by Cwye
hear that FOTA is with R1JC002
but it may take more than few MB.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2007-02-26 01:09:33, hanugro wrote:
I am sorry that other esato member hear a pointless rant from me. I have make myself clear in previous post so I should not really say anything more.

@sapporobaby: I have no problem with you. Cheers mate.



Glad you got the PM. Same with me dude. Cheerio mate.

Posted by Dovern
WOW!!! this is really BIG change !!! thanks for the post... next time i can use my SE bluetooth handsfree on the aeroplane

Quote:

On 2007-02-26 11:43:37, kalleboo wrote:
Here's a big one in R1GB001 that I didn't see in the first post: You can now enable bluetooth in Flight mode!!



Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2007-02-27 04:47:48, Dovern wrote:
WOW!!! this is really BIG change !!! thanks for the post... next time i can use my SE bluetooth handsfree on the aeroplane

Quote:

On 2007-02-26 11:43:37, kalleboo wrote:
Here's a big one in R1GB001 that I didn't see in the first post: You can now enable bluetooth in Flight mode!!





Don't airlines request that you DO NOT use wireless devices while in flight? I know that ALL major airlines do. By using your wireless devices while in flight, you can pose a safety risk.

Posted by masseur
w880 has this capability too, which also surprised me somewhat

strangely the W950 and M600 don't, even with the latest update from a week or two back

Posted by mAx_ld
I've just upgraded K800i via FOTA. Thx guys for the information. About 3MB. Cheers.

[ This Message was edited by: mAx_ld on 2007-02-27 11:12 ]

Posted by Asterion76
Any news about SEUS update?
I was thinking about writing to SE to ask for informations...

Posted by clifford_lee
My local SE svc centre (Singapore) mentioned that R1JC002 may still be unstable, hence they will not release it until it's further tested.

Posted by aremaboy
Unstable but released via FOTA and sold by Wotan? Give me a break..

Posted by mAx_ld
Quote:

On 2007-02-27 14:15:00, aremaboy wrote:
Unstable but released via FOTA and sold by Wotan? Give me a break..



Exactly!

Posted by aremaboy
Look at
http://ma3.extranet.sonyericsson.com
It's the SE EMMA website. There may be a clue when a new EMMA ( equal to SEUS? It may be, as the version number is identical..) client version will be released. A new client usually means new f/w is out for certain models. New EMMA version is planned to be out on March, 5. Anyway, this is just my humble speculation. It may be totally wrong. People with better info will know more. Just hope and wait, then...once again it's just my humble speculation..LOL.

Posted by ayejatt
those who are really desperate to get the R1JC002 firmware can just do OTA update...it was 29XX Kb when i dled it

or is there any way to dig the file out and let u guys update with it or it just goes away after the update.?

having said that, i cant see any difference it made to the phone tbh

[ This Message was edited by: ayejatt on 2007-02-27 18:03 ]

Posted by Sky Hi
Quote:

On 2007-02-27 12:43:34, clifford_lee wrote:
My local SE svc centre (Singapore) mentioned that R1JC002 may still be unstable, hence they will not release it until it's further tested.


Yeah, like R1GB001 was tested and stable (remenber the video preview thing?) before giving it out... Are they kidding?

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-27 15:31:00, aremaboy wrote:
Look at
http://ma3.extranet.sonyericsson.com
It's the SE EMMA website. There may be a clue when a new EMMA ( equal to SEUS? It may be, as the version number is identical..) client version will be released. A new client usually means new f/w is out for certain models. New EMMA version is planned to be out on March, 5. Anyway, this is just my humble speculation. It may be totally wrong. People with better info will know more. Just hope and wait, then...once again it's just my humble speculation..LOL.


SEUS is part of EMMA because if you look at the version on that web page is identical to all version of SEUS. First digit (2) as EMMA ver.2, second (7) is year 2007, third digit (2) is month February and last digit is build number. So current is 2.7.2.5 (EMMA2 year 2007 February build no 5). Seems that they release new client (SEUS as well) once a month.

I believe there are several level of EMMA (as if you see the txt it said that there is fix problem with service card - I guess only service centre or site like wotan/kulan use this that enable to change language/complete reflash). SEUS is the just part of the EMMA system that only install latest firmware that it believe it has and only part update.

I do hope you are right. It might need new SEUS clients for new phone but I think releasing new firmware for old phone does not need new client. Unless they build the firmware infos on client (like wotan client?).

I am really no rush to update to R1JC. The only problem of R1GB for me is video preview crash but I can workaround it by simply choosing List instead of thumbnail. All my QVGA 3GP video works OK in R1GB.


[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-02-28 14:01 ]

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-27 19:02:06, ayejatt wrote:

having said that, i cant see any difference it made to the phone tbh

[ This Message was edited by: ayejatt on 2007-02-27 18:03 ]



Well, (edit) four obvious thing:
1. Video preview crash should be fixed.
2. New Java runtime (hope it fix my problem with Java dictionary at sourceforge)
3. New text again it seems?
4. Content upgraded to PA29 (don't know what this means)

[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-02-28 02:29 ]

Posted by DarkChild
Just updated my K800i via the Update Service in the phone to R1JC002. My phone is an EU4. Love how the high quality videos don't freeze during the thumbnail preview mode anymore.

Posted by aremaboy
Just updated a friend K800i to R1JC002 via Wotan, enabled AMR and reset total call timer. It was a success. But, I saw '99E0W' tag on the customisation info. I have seen '1E0W' but not this '99E0W'. Any info of it? I think it's just a matter of 3rd party flasher, but why is there a different version? Just tried SEUS and it works fine with the phone. Any idea?

Posted by danielcps
Quote:

On 2007-02-28 11:02:00, aremaboy wrote:
Just updated a friend K800i to R1JC002 via Wotan, enabled AMR and reset total call timer. It was a success. But, I saw '99E0W' tag on the customisation info. I have seen '1E0W' but not this '99E0W'. Any info of it? I think it's just a matter of 3rd party flasher, but why is there a different version? Just tried SEUS and it works fine with the phone. Any idea?



same story here. Upate my friends K800i yesterday and got this 99E0W too. 99 error 0 warning.

Posted by aremaboy
Thanks, danielcps. BTW, I downloaded R1JC002 CHINA WI.wtm and APAC.wtf before running the client to save time. The .wtm is around 27 MB while .wtf is 16 MB. Then I placed them in Flash folder that was created by Wotan client. The client only downloaded FOTA, around 280 kb, and directly flashed the phone. Hm, 99 Errors? Which parts? And why NO warning. Just curious. As long as the phone works just fine, it's not a problem actually.

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-28 12:21:00, aremaboy wrote:
Thanks, danielcps. BTW, I downloaded R1JC002 CHINA WI.wtm and APAC.wtf before running the client to save time. The .wtm is around 27 MB while .wtf is 16 MB. Then I placed them in Flash folder that was created by Wotan client. The client only downloaded FOTA, around 280 kb, and directly flashed the phone. Hm, 99 Errors? Which parts? And why NO warning. Just curious. As long as the phone works just fine, it's not a problem actually.



Here is what Wotan said about 1E0W : the string 1E0W is not an error, it just means that the phone has been enabled for all language groups, IE you can now flash differant language groups into the phone.

Have no idea how 99E, why don't you ask wotan?


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