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Posted by tipu_ro
HELP!!!! i have an k800i from SE and i wouldn't start.when i press de power button it flashes a red light a coupple of time at the infrared port . can you help me solve this. thanx


Posted by NoSubstitute
http://www.se-world.info/firmwares.php?phone=62

There is a new firmware for K800i and K810

R1KA022 Developer

Btw, what is a CDA-string?
I found the following list there:

http://www.se-world.info/cda-strings.php?device=23&offset=0

Posted by maldus
i have R1GB001 on my k790i with R3A016

while using the camera, after sliding the cover the screen went blank and then i had the white screen ( the one u have using nokia's torch application ).

it didnt flash or blink or move. the white screen just stayed there for a few minutes before i had to remove my battery.

this is the first time ever iv had this problem. no other problems with the phone at all.

what could possibly be the reason for this?

Posted by simbus82
Quote:

On 2007-02-20 04:44:57, tipu_ro wrote:
HELP!!!! i have an k800i from SE and i wouldn't start.when i press de power button it flashes a red light a coupple of time at the infrared port . can you help me solve this. thanx



charge the battery!!!

[ This Message was edited by: simbus82 on 2007-02-20 17:56 ]

Posted by superleeds27
I start the update service and it says something along the lines of...


Unable to check app version, pleas reinstall, and make sure you have the latest version!

a) Its the latest version!
B) uninstalled - reinstalled 3/4 times :s

Posted by maccis
R1J is avalible via FOTA today. Checked SEUS but it wasnt avalible there yet, strange maybe tomorrow? Updated my gf K800 to R1J via FOTA and it worked just fine.

Posted by aremaboy
Good news, then..

Posted by andre_cool
good to know that R1J is available

Posted by dj christian
Quote:

On 2007-02-20 23:05:00, maccis wrote:
R1J is avalible via FOTA today. Checked SEUS but it wasnt avalible there yet, strange maybe tomorrow? Updated my gf K800 to R1J via FOTA and it worked just fine.



Yep same for me. I believe they going to put R1J on SEUS tomorrow.

Posted by Horonaim
well thats wierd, i tried it and it said that the phone still has the current f/w(r1gb).

Posted by aremaboy
Where is FOTA R1JC002 available? Whatever f/w I have, FOTA always says mine is the latest.

Posted by eggster2k
A friend of mine has just upgraded his k800i (generic uk) from r1gb001 to r1jc002 using the FOTA feature, worked fine.

Posted by altemyr
I have upgraded to R1JC002 using FOTA only a few minutes ago. The upgrade did not solve the problem with some Java apps don't start, even though there was a new Java engine in this upgrade. For example, Opera Mini 3.0 does not start.

Posted by chadiwrx
R1JC002 FOTA for Oz is available

Posted by Asterion76
You're lucky. FOTA in Italy is non available

Posted by simbus82
qualche italiano c'è allora
... the umts in italy is very expensive, so fota is not usable....

Posted by killsta
R1JC definately is available FOTA in UK (generic R1GB currently).

Not available on SEUS though

Posted by aremaboy
FOTA used to come later than SEUS. But now it's the other way round. Can't say why..

Posted by killsta
Too tempting to get it over FOTA...but it will cost me about £10 in O2's data fees

[ This Message was edited by: killsta on 2007-02-21 11:52 ]

Posted by Asterion76
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 12:35:34, simbus82 wrote:
qualche italiano c'è allora
... the umts in italy is very expensive, so fota is not usable....



Ciao

I agree that FOTA is not usable, but the Update Over Air option is not present in my Settings menu. Is it the same for your phone?
I have a not branded k800i.

Posted by Horonaim
im in asia, probably the FOTA update is currently available in the european regions at the moment.

Posted by Asterion76
Anyway, a new firmware update is coming soon

Posted by Sky Hi
Bugs, crashes, etc, etc... Here's the story: I started transfering some games in my k800i (more than 100) from the internal memory to the M2. When I was almost done the phone did that, well known to our community, restart (white screen etc... ), and after that, when it started again, it immediately (without me doing anything) started applying a theme! A black theme with no pictures at all! I went to the themes folder to change it back, but there where no themes there! After restarting I finally applied my previous theme, but then discovered the worst of all: when I tried to open the games or the apps folder it said that the process failed! That was it! No access to their content!
Don't hurry to suggest a F/W re-flash, cause after doing that the problem is still there!
So, are there still some people who insist that it's natural to have those little cute bugs in such a beautiful phone?
Can anyone suggest a solution for that problem?
I REALY love this phone, but it's starting to get on my nerves. If I wanted a phone just for making calls, I'd keep my first 10 years old one. I want a hi-tech device, but I expect from it to "tolerate" AT LEAST its natural and simple tasks (like moving files...!).
I just hope that updating to the JC (hopefuly within the following days) through SEUS will solve the problem...


Posted by krazeekev
I just updated my firmware on my K800i to R1GB001 and now my phone is giving me nothing but problems!!! The back light doesn't light up as bright as it did before, neither do the keys. I can go into the menu and manually change it back, but after a few seconds the stupid thing goes dark again. Furthermore, the screen is non responsive for a few seconds...it stays completely dark after pressing any key, for a few seconds, before lighting up at all!!!
Does anybody know what I can do about this???

Posted by Asterion76
I agree with you, the previous firmware gave a lot of problems. I hope the next one would make the phone more stable. We'll see when they release it on SEUS.

k800i is my first SE phone, switching from Nokia because of lesser hardrware quality and symbian instability. A really good phone, but if this firmware doesn't solve previous bug I have to consider another switch.

Posted by hanugro
Never has a problem with R1GB apart from high quality video preview crash. Perhaps it is problem of unsuccessful flashing instead of bug in R1GB itself.
Anyway R1JC still not availbale in both FOTA and SEUS for APAC.


Posted by Asterion76
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 16:31:55, hanugro wrote:
Never has a problem with R1GB...



Maybe you're right, but I flashed the phone 4 times with the same result.
All my hopes in the post R1Gx firmware!

Posted by [c3]
im thinking of switching to nokia, SE are realy getting on my nervs now! why cant they just TEST THE FIRMWARE! b4 releasing it! it sux getting all these bugs, my phone has been away for a month and 2 weeks for a busted stupid erom , (flashing lights) i dont know, hope they fix the fone soon or else they'll lose one more customer

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 19:55:09, [c3] wrote:
im thinking of switching to nokia, SE are realy getting on my nervs now! why cant they just TEST THE FIRMWARE! b4 releasing it! it sux getting all these bugs, my phone has been away for a month and 2 weeks for a busted stupid erom , (flashing lights) i dont know, hope they fix the fone soon or else they'll lose one more customer



Hey C3, did you take it to Barak like I suggested? I know the manager there. That is if you are in Kuwait.

By the way, I have pretty much left SE. I bought the new Nokia N800 and the E61. Combined they are a formidable platform. SE has too much Japanese influence.

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[ This Message was edited by: sapporobaby on 2007-02-21 19:41 ]

Posted by Sky Hi
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 19:55:09, [c3] wrote:
im thinking of switching to nokia, SE are realy getting on my nervs now! why cant they just TEST THE FIRMWARE! b4 releasing it! it sux getting all these bugs, my phone has been away for a month and 2 weeks for a busted stupid erom , (flashing lights) i dont know, hope they fix the fone soon or else they'll lose one more customer


Totaly agree!

Posted by aremaboy
SE Service Centre in Indonesia does the same. If you send the phone for a repair, it takes a week or two if you are in Jakarta, the capital city-- and a month or more--if you are 1000km away from the capital, just like me. Therefore, I try my best to not get in touch with SESC. Just wonder why couldn't SESC just do the EROM fix in a day? It was just pressing 2 and 5 in less than 30 seconds. Flashing a full f/w is at max just less than 30 mins if it is done offline. SESC may be too busy with beauracracy..at least in Indonesia. A friend with WSOD had to wait 10 days to get his phone fixed! A long queue of have-to-repaired phones, perhaps?

Posted by boab2791
I've just upgraded from R1GB001 to R1JC002 and my phone is no longer working. It is a CID51 version as I updated using Wotan to R1GB001 a few months back with no problem.

This time on using Wotan I got a message that states:

CSLOADER: phone lock reset - pls wait
ACK GET FAILED!!!

This is after it has done all the flashing, what does this mean, have asked Wotan but so far no response from them.

I started up the phone and I am told there is in an error in configuration and to contact my mobile provider or service centre.

I see the flash files are now located on my PC, how do I go about using them to reflah as Why should I loss another credit on Wotan when the first flash didn't work. Here is extract from the last few entries, I can't make head nor tail of it:

packet written: 27
packet written: 28
packet written: 29
packet written: 30
packet written: 31
packet written: 32
Flash packet end
broken answer, waiting for the rest...
FLASH: block OK
Sending request for status
FLASH: written successfully
CSLOADER: writing header
CSLOADER: writing prologue
CSLOADER: writing payload
CSLOADER: OK
061027 1723 HANCXC1250562_DB2020_CSLOADER_R3A005
CSLOADER: starting loader
CSLOADER: starting FS
CSLOADER: starting GDFS
CSLOADER: connecting to server
CSLOADER: connection OK
CSLOADER: sending login
CSLOADER: login OK
66B recv
CSLOADER: sign 1 fetched
CS sign 2 generating
CS sign 2 fetched
66B recv
CSLOADER: phone lock reset - pls wait
ACK GET FAILED!!!

Can anyone help me with my sick phone now, I tried in desparation to use SEUS, it updated the phone with the same result, I suspect it was attempting to put the R1GB001 firmware on.

Posted by bronxdude
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 20:48:00, aremaboy wrote:
SE Service Centre in Indonesia does the same. If you send the phone for a repair, it takes a week or two if you are in Jakarta, the capital city-- and a month or more--if you are 1000km away from the capital, just like me. Therefore, I try my best to not get in touch with SESC. Just wonder why couldn't SESC just do the EROM fix in a day? It was just pressing 2 and 5 in less than 30 seconds. Flashing a full f/w is at max just less than 30 mins if it is done offline. SESC may be too busy with beauracracy..at least in Indonesia. A friend with WSOD had to wait 10 days to get his phone fixed! A long queue of have-to-repaired phones, perhaps?




here in manila, philippines, u just have to wait for 3-5 days for ur phone to be fixed.

but if its just f/w updates, it will only take an hour

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 16:41:57, Asterion76 wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 16:31:55, hanugro wrote:
Never has a problem with R1GB...



Maybe you're right, but I flashed the phone 4 times with the same result.
All my hopes in the post R1Gx firmware!



Go to authorised service centre and let them fix it. SEUS is 'part' update and may not fixed your problem! You need full reflash of phone!

Posted by King Mustard
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 15:01:58, krazeekev wrote:
I just updated my firmware on my K800i to R1GB001 and now my phone is giving me nothing but problems!!! The back light doesn't light up as bright as it did before, neither do the keys. I can go into the menu and manually change it back, but after a few seconds the stupid thing goes dark again. Furthermore, the screen is non responsive for a few seconds...it stays completely dark after pressing any key, for a few seconds, before lighting up at all!!!
Does anybody know what I can do about this???


EXACTLY the problem I am having

Posted by bojanbb
Here in Srbija, you can take phone in appr. 10 services and your phone is ready in 1h for the price of 10e!!!!
So much about waitting for the phone!

Posted by maldus
well that's great!!!

here in india the service centres are extremely crowded any time of the day and half of them are very angry customers on their 3rd or fourth visit to the service centre.

the phones never work so u have to personally go there even to ask whether your phone is ready or not.

and there's only one major service centre. there are are other smaller ones which forward the phones to the major center.

so all in all its a complete mess!!!

i myself have had some crazy experiences with my k700i and the k790i.

Posted by mravcek
Quote:

On 2007-02-22 05:05:35, King Mustard wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 15:01:58, krazeekev wrote:
I just updated my firmware on my K800i to R1GB001 and now my phone is giving me nothing but problems!!! The back light doesn't light up as bright as it did before, neither do the keys. I can go into the menu and manually change it back, but after a few seconds the stupid thing goes dark again. Furthermore, the screen is non responsive for a few seconds...it stays completely dark after pressing any key, for a few seconds, before lighting up at all!!!
Does anybody know what I can do about this???


EXACTLY the problem I am having


Same problem
If I use automatic key lock, then I can use my phone, but backlight still dosen't work properly. Answer from Sony Erricson:
... Please contact SonyEricsson Call Center ...

Posted by [c3]
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 20:28:22, sapporobaby wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 19:55:09, [c3] wrote:
im thinking of switching to nokia, SE are realy getting on my nervs now! why cant they just TEST THE FIRMWARE! b4 releasing it! it sux getting all these bugs, my phone has been away for a month and 2 weeks for a busted stupid erom , (flashing lights) i dont know, hope they fix the fone soon or else they'll lose one more customer



Hey C3, did you take it to Barak like I suggested? I know the manager there. That is if you are in Kuwait.

By the way, I have pretty much left SE. I bought the new Nokia N800 and the E61. Combined they are a formidable platform. SE has too much Japanese influence.

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[ This Message was edited by: sapporobaby on 2007-02-21 19:41 ]



no bro, im in montreal right now, i sent it to a friend of mine back home to get it fixed cuz its still under warranty, i think he toke it to barrak, but still cant believe sony let me down like that , i've been with erricsson all my life then switch to sony ericsson when they first relieved their amazing T68, and i've been with them ever since, its gonna suck if i switch now!, thanx anyways bro .

SE, dont make me switch! i'd hate to do that but ur forcing me

Posted by ayejatt
how much does it download OTA??

edit: I have dled it anyways OTA...it did about 2960Kb

think i havent gone over the download limit yet... :S

[ This Message was edited by: ayejatt on 2007-02-22 19:34 ]

Posted by krazeekev
I called SE here in the United States and they gave me 2 options:

1.) Send them the phone and pay $135 for them to "fix" it, and by fixing it he said "doing the same thing you can do online, only in more detail"

2.) Try updating the software online again


I opted for the 2nd choice and when I did it the 2nd time around I updated it in German, and not in English (like I had done the 1st time)...I don't know why, but now everything works fine!!!


ONE HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS to "fix" my phone??? SE is crazy!!!

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-23 00:13:42, krazeekev wrote:
I called SE here in the United States and they gave me 2 options:

1.) Send them the phone and pay $135 for them to "fix" it, and by fixing it he said "doing the same thing you can do online, only in more detail"

2.) Try updating the software online again


I opted for the 2nd choice and when I did it the 2nd time around I updated it in German, and not in English (like I had done the 1st time)...I don't know why, but now everything works fine!!!


ONE HUNDRED THIRTY FIVE DOLLARS to "fix" my phone??? SE is crazy!!!


Well you use SEUS then. The language is just for the updater so I am quite suprised to find that you have difference experience. The only explanation would be it connect to different server (mirror) that is closest to German speaking language and download from there. The older server must have corrupt firmware for your CDA-string firmware.

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-21 20:48:00, aremaboy wrote:
SE Service Centre in Indonesia does the same. If you send the phone for a repair, it takes a week or two if you are in Jakarta, the capital city-- and a month or more--if you are 1000km away from the capital, just like me.


Well, Malang is not that far Anyway I believe the culprit is that it need internet connection for service center to update firmware (even in Jakarta) because I guess they still need to connect to EMMA for customization(finalization). With the popularity of broadband faster flashing can be achieved. I believe now you can wait for 2-3 hrs for firmware update (provided the internet connection is not down).
For repair, well, maybe lots of paperwork must be done as the service center has to wait for approval from SE Indonesia (for warranty claim). Most of the time it only take 3-5 days depending on the spare part availability.

Posted by Horonaim
any news if FOTA is available in APAC already?

Posted by aremaboy
Not yet. Be patient, bro.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

Well you use SEUS then. The language is just for the updater so I am quite suprised to find that you have difference experience. The only explanation would be it connect to different server (mirror) that is closest to German speaking language and download from there. The older server must have corrupt firmware for your CDA-string firmware.



Please prove some of your statements and back them up with FACTS. Where do you get this from? Do you know this for sure or are you just speculating.

Posted by Asterion76
Here in italy the new firmware is not yet available via SEUS.
How many time does it usually take to localize firmware and release it worldwide?

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-02-23 11:03:40, sapporobaby wrote:
Quote:

Well you use SEUS then. The language is just for the updater so I am quite suprised to find that you have difference experience. The only explanation would be it connect to different server (mirror) that is closest to German speaking language and download from there. The older server must have corrupt firmware for your CDA-string firmware.



Please prove some of your statements and back them up with FACTS. Where do you get this from? Do you know this for sure or are you just speculating.



Read again all the paragraph and you will know that I NEVER stated that this is a fact! It is my understanding (read somewhere on the net) that the language is just for interface and then SEUS will automatically choose the right firmware (like you may choose traditional chinese for SEUS dialog - only Taiwan and HGK still uses this - but if your mobile is APAC - which consist only easy chinese - then SEUS still updates it with APAC firmware. So that should conclude that the language you choose for SEUS dialog is not tied to the CDA/language of firmware. However the poster said that he chose German language for SEUS dialog and it make a difference (meaning the firmware he download with US English MIGHT not be the same with German). So I SPECULATE SE may deploys several servers around the world so that for example choosing German/English UK language will download firmware from Europe's server while American English will download firmware from US's server.

If I WERE SE then I might deploys several mirror based on the geography that will make ppl connect to nearest server. This may prove difficult since Spanish and Portuguese languange exist in both Europe and South America which is further apart. Also SE need to sync a lot of firmware for all its mirror server around the world. Again this is just my speculation.

Posted by aremaboy
I'm with you, hanugro.
IMHO, mirror servers do exist. Once I got my SEUS kept on looping until I changed Indonesian to USA, which was a success.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-02-23 13:34 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2007-02-23 14:13:00, aremaboy wrote:
I'm with you, hanugro.
IMHO, mirror servers do exist. Once I got my SEUS kept on looping until I changed Indonesian to USA, which was a success.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-02-23 13:34 ]



Being with Hanugro does not make you correct, but can make you as equally incorrect. The problem with this forum is that very few do real research and post fiction as fact.

The fact about SE as I got it from the local SE SVC CTR is that the SEUS does look at the region where the phone is localized for, i.e. Germany or Kuwait, or China and offers a language pack for that particular region. Mirrors do exist but only facilitates a faster download of the local language pack to an area closer to where you are. If you care to test this, buy a phone outside of your region and see what language pack is chose. I have a phone from Kuwait, and when I tried to upgrade it, I got a language pack for the region where it was purchased: ASIA.

My Finnish phone is localized for European languages. This is also true of the repair options. Buy a phone in the US and try to get it repaired in Europe and they won't do it. The same applies to the application of language packs and phone upgrades.

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