Posted by aremaboy
Aha, R1KA022..Ready, guys..I'm ready with anything: SEUS..Wotan Server..hehe..
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It is supposed to become the firmware of new K810. But SE-world said that it is also applicable to K800. It may be the last firmware upgrade for K800. Just wondering why R1JC has not appeared on SEUS yet.
@aremaboy: did wotan flash fixed all of your problem with R1GB from SEUS?
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Posted by Horonaim
I emailed
and they said a f/w update for the k800 will be released Q2 of 2007, maybe thats the R1KA022 f/w...
Posted by aremaboy
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Yes, I have written down all findings I've got so far in previous pages before. I am very satisfied with this R1JC002 and Wotan of course. No WSOD, No crash, no lag, no R29:xxxx bugs, new EROM, what else we want? It even fixes the mp3 issues..No idea why SEUS doesn't even release it regardless good comments from users. It may be not major release..for SE. No idea. Hey, do you speak German too? What I know the site you said is in German. I am blank..LOL.
Posted by Asterion76
I have an issue after the R1GB001 update.
The level of my battery shown on display is somehow different from the percentual value. For example: when the percentual value says my battery level is 88%, the display image shows a fully charged battery.
Did you notice something similiar?
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Posted by aremaboy
Hi, Wotan Server has provided W880i, W610i and K550i Retail Firmwares already...even the phones aren't out yet..what a quick step...even far further beyond SE itself...
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Why is that? Shall we examine?
Could it be because WOTAN and the other flashing services are paid services? Could it be that they have the same access to the SEUS firmware but charge for it by delivering it before SE officially releases it to the mass market for free.?
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No the phone does not hang. i have to reject the call and when i receive it again i can accept it with no problem.
Dont use the BT so wouldn't know about it.
This problem was there in the previous f/w too. I hope its taken care of in the new one. Its quite annoying when u have an important call and need to pick it up.
Posted by alvinrayyu
i own a brown k800i and i want to update/upgrade the software to R1GB001 because the current software version is the R1D***
i cannot update the software using the desktop software that can be downloaded from the SE website as it always results in a fatal error "java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException" why is this so?
i can't even update directly from my mobile phone, some problem with the network support.
please help. how can i upgrade the software version without disabling the chinese language input of my k800i?
thank you.
Posted by hanugro
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I believe that even SE service centre may pay to SE itself for using EMMA. SE authorised service centre is usually service provided by SE's master dealer/distributor (not SE as entity itself). There are only several master dealer for every country.
As I understand there are several level of EMMA service. SEUS is the lowest level of them all hence it is free. Some known limmitation: SEUS is only part update and also has to follow rule (ie: only install newer firmware, don't allow debranding, don't allow change language, etc.).
Kulan ppl has said to me that they also pay SE so that we can finalize our phone in seconds (rather than hours using phoneXS++ with CID<=49). And also that SE charge them for updating EROM CID (to 51) as well. They make it requirement to have EROM CID51 before being able to install newer firmware.
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Posted by hanugro
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I believe all of us can buy from SE as well and get higher level EMMA account, but it won't be cheap.
Posted by sapporobaby
@Sky Hi
Did you read my post about saying something and proving something?
Everyone knows that Wotan buys access to the server. This has been common knowledge since flashing became the hottest ticket in town. The real pros that used to come to Esato made this known a while ago, so what it your point?
SE provides SEUS as a service. It is not a right you get when you purchase a phone, nor are f/w upgrades. They provide these because they know that like anything else, f/w is created by humans and subject to errors.
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Posted by sapporobaby
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True. The SVC's get access for free but are limited as to what they can do. None of them can de-brand a phone as this is an agreement made between the operators and SE. Services like Wotan, et al do not enter into such an agreement and can pretty much do as they please.
Posted by Sky Hi
It IS a right when you buy something faulty (bugs, crashes, and shit like these) to have it supported for FREE, and it's their DUTY to offer that since you PAY for that device. IF there had been a PERFECT F/W that worked fine, there wouldn't be such a need. I don't think you would think like that when buying a car! That's why GUARANTEES are for!
Don't be fools! Demand what you PAY for! Don't be a victim, unless you want to feel like one...
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Posted by sapporobaby
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As everyone knows here, even Batsh_t, there is no such thing as perfect firmware. A mature and knowledgeable person would know and understand this and act accordingly. All of your posts have been nothing but complaints and curses. Great way to make a point there for sure. If you don't like the phone then take it back and don't use it. SE nor Nokia, nor any of the other mobile phone manufactures guarantee an error free phone. They simply try to meet the needs of an ever expanding and demanding (and hopefully mature) market with new and exciting features. If this is not enough for you, then you go and design a perfect, error free phone.
Posted by Sky Hi
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Anyway I'm tired of you...don't bother answering cause you won't get an answer back...
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Posted by A L 3 X
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try uinstalling and using ccleaner to fix all issues in registry, then download the latest java version and then reinstall SEUS and try again, hope this helps!
Posted by sapporobaby
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I guess you opened your mouth and proved my point.
By the way, it's "For God's sake". My point proven again.
Posted by lone_snake
Hello guys,
I've visited SE centre in my city, trying to upgrade my f/w. They said the latest f/w is R1GB but again they dissappointed me. They told me the upgrade process took 2 hours and my data in phone memory (phone book, sms, mms,etc) will lost, but all data that saved on M2 didn't lost because they unplug it during process. Is it true guys????
For all of u that upgraded ur f/w through SEUS, Wotan, have u lost the data I Mentioned above?? And have u guys wait 2 hours during upgrade software???
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Updating via SEUS doesn't delete any data. Upgrading via Wotan and SESC erases all data because it reinstalls the whole firmware. 2 hours? Very normal. Here, 2 weeks...BTW, my K800i is R1JC002. Updated via Wotan. It's a perfect phone.
Posted by Sky Hi
Here's a little something that I just discovered in my K800 that propably many of you know, but I bet most of you don't, since it's not written in the manual. Try to upload to the phone a .txt file, and open it. Yes, you can read .txt files with the built-in browser! COOL!
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Posted by hanugro
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Agree and yes they have SEUS and SE authorised service center to provide free service and firmware. But there is a catch. You need a warranty phone and SEUS is only part flashing. Also giving your phone to authorized service centre take time (few days at least). Some ppl here even buy phone from internet that is not supposed to be sell in his country (like buying a chinese traditional language phone to use in English market). I think wotan, kulan, etc is actually providing a value for such customers that need DIY solution and glad to pay in exchange of time and convenience.
Posted by sapporobaby
@hanugro,
You have a point but have you considered the fact that SE and the other manufactures do not intentionally sell faulty products? It's like you and the other complainer (not saying you are complaining) do not realize what it takes to get a product out the door in such short development times. SE and Nokia for example have a six month, conception to birth cycle for their products. 6 Months. That is damn near impossible to accomplish but they do, and they do it well for the most part. Sure the software can sometimes be buggy or not function as advertised, but this is in no way an attempt to cheat or defraud the customer. A classic example are the people in this thread. To be honest, it is populated by people that seem to have nothing better in life to do than to push buttons and report on their phones. These are the ones that live to find bugs and complain about it and feel that they have been ripped off by SE. The average user hardly ever comes across this bugs as they simply use the phone for its intended purposes, to make and receive calls. SE offers SEUS as a way to try and fix these issues, and allows companies like Wotan to have access to pre-released firmware so that they can offer this to customers that need the latest and greatest right away. Once again, SE did not have to do this, but is providing this service in an effort to alleviate dissatisfaction. Some people truly need to grow up and see it for what it is. Customers have demanded new and better phones every six months, which by the way was the life cycle of the k800i, that function perfectly. This is never going to be the case. As long as a human is involved, phones will have problems.
Posted by Sky Hi
Do you really believe that "6 month cycle" crap the manufacturers give you? You must be joking! My friend, technology has gone far-far ahead of your imagination, but they don't need to "offer" it to you at once. What I mean is that they give out technology bit by bit. Every time they go a little step further, they sell like crazy, make hell lot of money, and when selling a specific model comes to a poor level, boom, they go to the next step, a new model is out!! and the circle starts again and again giving them more and more money since we all run to buy that new model, until the next one comes out!
Do you really think it's so difficult for them to make a 10Mpixels camera phone today? But then how would they sell the cameras? No one would buy them!
Or is it difficult to make a phone supporting all the well known formats with a 4 or more GB of internal memory? But then who would buy the i-pod or any other mp3 player?
Don't be so ignorant. We are all part of they "money-making" system! And the worst of all is that some of us feel thankful and pleased for that!
(PS: damn! you made me answer you again!
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Posted by sapporobaby
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Yes, I believe because I am in the business. No one in the business of making money is going to put it all on the table. It is planned. That is why you have version 1, 2, x. This is marking 101 and you do not seem to get this. Like it or not, the k800i is an old phone that was old from the moment it hit the market. Second, you have zero point zero understanding about R&D and every comment you make shows this. You can't just crap out a design, in your head and then magically it appears. For example: you have to get host nation approval, design and review boards to certify the device, negotiate for parts, etc....You simply have a myopic view of how things are done. Your second post about a 10 megapixel camera once again proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. A 10 megapixel camera has a very large CCD, (approximately 23.6 x 15.8mm and would yield 10.2 megapixels) which would be too big to put in a camera, but then again, you in your infinite wisdom knew this. Dude, you are way over your head here. Leave the technical stuff to the pros.
I do however understand your desire to have a product that works, first time, every time, but as I said, as long as humans are involved, you will be heading down to your local SE shop or using SEUS, or Wotan. Simple as that.
Finally, I did not make you do anything. You decided to step in it again all by yourself.
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Posted by hanugro
What I just want to say is SE has done it job properly through SEUS and authorized service center. I am satisfied with SE otherwise I won't use SE exclusively since my first T68i to K800i (despite unnecessary fastport change). I understand it is not easy to make firmware but I hope SE also make sure it does not have any remaining major bug. Just because the phone is 6 motnhs old, so no any other firmware to fix major bugs (like video preview in R1GB) is no good. But I can live with minor one.
Also wotan, kulan, DVT exist because ppl have special need. They provide service that is not provided by SE (change language, etc). SE has every right NOT to provide this kind of service. So I think it is good third party provide it for small fee. I use this kind of service myself as I change language for my wife Z610.
If you don't want to pay then stick with SEUS and authorized service centre. It is free as long as you play by the rule (buy warranted SE phone).
BTW, apart from reported video preview bug my phone has no other complain. I even can live with this bug because at least there is a workaround to avoid it (using list instead of thumbnail). Final word just use and enjoy your phone now because you will replace it within few years anyway. Cheers.
Posted by A L 3 X
when will R1JC002 be released on SEUS
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Who knows?
Posted by baste07
you certainly don't
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Hey Mr No Nothing. Where you been? Anyway, do you have an idea Einstein. Opened your mouth again and embarrassed yourself I see.
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Posted by gareb
When it's ready it is. My very very own wish is that
fix the standby clock on my W850. I just dont see nothing.
Posted by korbindallis
when will R1JC002 come for K790i
i have R1GB001 and it causes high quality vdo crashes and i had to install all my games and apps again
why SE ........... WhY lol
oh well i guess a little wait to update over the air
it costs but much faster then doing it via SEUS
Posted by Sky Hi
Question: does updating through wotan delete the locked (undeletable) files of the phone too (like games, apps etc)? I wish it does!
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It's NOT. Those locked stuffs remain there.
Posted by Sammy_boy
Excellent and helpful thread this, keep threads like this coming!
It seems after updating my K800i to the latest firmware version that typing bug from the initial release firmware version still seems to be there, and only affects the 2/abc key, none of the others! Unless of course my phone's got a slight fault there....
Posted by aremaboy
Other finding on R1JC002, updated via Wotan:
Now you CANNOT view SVG files from file manager anymore! In all previous f/w, when you had svg wallpapers kept in Picture folder, you could view them without problem. The phone would launch the internet browser and displayed the svg files there, which is strange actually, why it launches internet browser, unlike when previewing jpeg or gif files. On R1JC002, when you want to view the file, the phone launches the browser and displays NOTHING, just WHITE SCREEN. The only way to view svg file is by setting it as your standby wallpaper. But, the phone speed is slightly reduced when you use svg as the wallpaper.
Posted by King Mustard
I just used the SEUS on my Orange phone and it's now been updated to R1GB001.
Just thought I'd post so the original poster can update the "SEUS will currently install the following firmware revisions for UK phone brands:" part of the original post
Posted by King Mustard
I have a major problem since updating to R1GB001 on my Orange phone using the SEUS. When the fade is used at any time, pressing a button (which would normally bring fade the screen back to full brightness) doesn't work, it just stays dark and I can hardly read the text on the screen. I've also noticed that when the fade should be happening, it doesn't any more, it just goes straight from bright to dark.
I can go to options and change the brightness from 80% back to 100% and that works fine but as soon as it tries to fade, it screws up again :/
What can I do?
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Posted by DCUK7
Flash it again using SEUS. Because of the nature of these flashing services you can run into problems from time to time. If another flash does not fix it then you'll have to take it to a Sony Ericsson Service Center and let them take a look at it.
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I re-flashed and it is still screwed.
God damn it, this is really annoying, I am going Nokia when my contract runs out. I had SUES firmware problems with my K750i last year too.
Where is a list of the Sony Ericsson Service Centers?
Posted by bravint
there are no SE service center in the UK, just take the phone back to the shop you got it from. If you got your phone direct from orange, take it to an orange store with your proof of purchase.
Before you do that though, use my phone explorer to back up your data and try a master reset, see it that fixes it
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Posted by King Mustard
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Orange will end up charging me and/or keeping it for days/weeks, such an annoyance and master reset didn't help either
Bummer...
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There is one SE centre left in the UK.
This is the official SE service centre which SE tell you to send it to when you have a problem. I have already sent a K800i with an erom problem to them and recieved it back about 5 days later working fine, at no charge as it was under warranty.
The address is
Freepost NATW1026
Kuehne + Nagel
Unit 2A
Appletree Road
Chipping Warden
Banbury
OX17 1LL
I'd recommend sending it special delivery though (Roughly £4.50)
Posted by King Mustard
Do I not take it to Orange? (I am mid-way through a contract)
What do I send to them?
How can I ensure I'll get it back?
How can I back myself up in case there is no evidence of it being there? (a recorded delivery receipt won't be enough)
Would they repair it if I just sent it them?
What do I include in the cover letter?
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Is there anything I should add/remove?
Posted by peanut
My findings with R1J so far:
- Much snappier all round. Deletes long lists of SMS mega quick now.
- Using keypad as number shortcuts (i.e. instead of using the stick) doesn't work in file browser, you get ABC search instead which doesn't work
- Top screen buttons: the left button opens the full screen picture viewer as it should but won't let you navigate only the top right button works in this mode
- Video still crap but seems much improved
- Thank God! My clock/calendar has stopped resetting to day zero after snoozing more than twice or switching off with a mega low battery. That was driving me mad.
- Still has that awful new MMS creator
In all quite pleased as it's fixed more than it's broke.
Posted by baste07
the non working keypad on the file manager was there as far as i know (from the initial fw) so nothing new there.
yeah but don' t know why SE don't correct this.
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The new MMS editor is a great improvement as far as I am concerned.
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When you say "a" button KM which one are you pressing? I've updated my Orange K800i to R1GB001 via SEUS and it works fine. The only button I can use to bring the phone brightness back when it's gone into standby is the "back" button. Do none of yours work?
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