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Posted by patrick_teo
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On 2007-01-11 09:29:51, patrick_teo wrote:
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On 2006-10-09 03:42:20, patrick_teo wrote:
I have updated my firmware to R1ED001, but when synchronizing with MS Outlook contacts, the following happens:

1. Phone freezes at "Sending 277"
2. Sync Summary shows:
Items synchronised: 0
Errors: 1 General
Error due to: No connection - OR_MPM_OBEX_OP_TIMEOUT
3. Phone restarts to USB connection screen for selecting File Transfer, Phone Mode or Print Pic

Anyone knows how to overcome this problem?



R1GB001 solved this problem.



Correction! Found that the synchronization problem occurs when pictures and/or ringtones are added to contacts.


Posted by hanugro
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On 2007-01-23 10:48:15, patrick_teo wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-01-11 09:29:51, patrick_teo wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-10-09 03:42:20, patrick_teo wrote:
I have updated my firmware to R1ED001, but when synchronizing with MS Outlook contacts, the following happens:

1. Phone freezes at "Sending 277"
2. Sync Summary shows:
Items synchronised: 0
Errors: 1 General
Error due to: No connection - OR_MPM_OBEX_OP_TIMEOUT
3. Phone restarts to USB connection screen for selecting File Transfer, Phone Mode or Print Pic

Anyone knows how to overcome this problem?



R1GB001 solved this problem.



Correction! Found that the synchronization problem occurs when pictures and/or ringtones are added to contacts.


Use My Phone Explorer http://www.fjsoft.at/en/ It is fast and small. Don't know if it can sync with Outlook though. Have you updated the SE PC Suite? Maybe the bug is with PC Suite not the phone firmware.

Edit: MPE 1.5.8 CAN sync with Outlook. It needs VB runtime but it is very good program.

[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-01-23 13:24 ]

Posted by patrick_teo
Yes, I am using the latest PC Suite 1.30.53

Posted by aremaboy
Other finding on R1GB001/SEUS/EROM R3A011/CID 51:
Try to record a video. Open the lens cover, select video mode. Then you find out that the start up view finder is rather pixelated, kind of low resolution I think. The outline of objects viewed there is not smooth, just like resolution lines on conventional TV screen. I don't know the right term... But, as you press the record button and record the video, the picture is not that pixelated anymore. Normal record, although yes, the quality is low..
Anyway, you can compare this 'pixelated' start up when you move to camera mode. In camera mode, the view finder is just normal, very sharp and not pixelated. Only in video mode this flaw happens. Also, very temporarily, very intermittantly, as you finish recording a video and directly play it--once again directly play it, not move to File Manager or Video Player---the video you record shows lines flash just like pixelated image ONLY at the beginning. Anyway, it may be caused by its low quality video..When you view it from File Manager, the video is just fine. Hm, just minor flaw. My phone only, perhaps?

EDIT: What I mean as pixelated is when you view object with straight line like posts, masts, or the outline of square objects. To test, prepare a piece of white paper, put on a dark background, black for instance. Try get focused, move the camera and you'll see that the start up view finder is not that smooth compared to camera mode. The outline of paper is pixelated, full of lines. I think it's because of the low resolution too..and compare the video result. It's not pixelated that much...


Next finding:
Go to camera mode and choose either Twilight Landscape, Landscape or Beach/Snow scene setting. Try to capture an object. Then what can you see on the result? Yes, the picture taken is ALWAYS BIGGER than what the viewfinder displayed before. To test, try to capture your fingers. Make sure to put the thumb, e.g, very close to the frame of the viewfinder. Then,click. See the result. Your thumb shot may be cut a bit...
And I'm sure my hand is not shaking when taking the picture. In other scenes, Auto, Twilight Portrait, Portrait, Sports and Document, what the viewfinder displays is EXACTLY what the picture shows as the result. You can try capturing the same object with these different scene settings. What do you think?

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-01-23 13:42 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
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On 2007-01-23 05:40:00, aremaboy wrote:
And basically SE 'hates' it so much as 3rd party flashers out there do better job than SEUS or SESC. That's why they improve the security to CID 51 but they sell the firmwares to Wotan? Aargh..



They hate it because people jack up their phones and then bring them to SE repair shops to get fixed. People say, :"No I didn't use a third party flasher", but SE knows they did and then the fight starts. SE won't fix the phone for free and the person feels SE should. Straight from the SE tech support in Finland.

Also, the k800i is on the way out. No need to wish and hope for more firmware upgrades. It is an old phone.

Posted by ozzyboy
what firmware is better??? R1ED001 cid49 or R1GB001 cid51
wich one have much bugs???



Posted by darrengf
i have used all the firmwares for the phone and so far have been very impressed with them all, compaired to when i got the k750 this was dreadful with the first firmware.

Any way the Latest R1G CID 51 is the most stable with least crashes (Only 1 in the view video mode)

Nothng else i have noticed has changed.

i use both Wotan and SEUS to update the phone, no problems with any of them

Posted by sapporobaby
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On 2007-01-23 23:57:59, ozzyboy wrote:
what firmware is better??? R1ED001 cid49 or R1GB001 cid51
wich one have much bugs???






Generally it is a good idea to have the latest. You can't go wrong in most cases. Check the first page of this thread and get an overview of the improvements.

Posted by hgchew
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On 2007-01-23 13:42:00, aremaboy wrote:

Go to camera mode and choose either Twilight Landscape, Landscape or Beach/Snow scene setting. Try to capture an object. Then what can you see on the result? Yes, the picture taken is ALWAYS BIGGER than what the viewfinder displayed before. To test, try to capture your fingers. Make sure to put the thumb, e.g, very close to the frame of the viewfinder. Then,click. See the result. Your thumb shot may be cut a bit...



You probably have image stabilizer turned on. The algorithm needs a few pixels on all sides to generate a stable picture. I believe that is why the edges are cut off.


[ This Message was edited by: hgchew on 2007-01-24 01:18 ]

[ This Message was edited by: hgchew on 2007-01-24 01:19 ]

Posted by JAGUY85
Hi guys. I got my K800 yesterday. Will soon update the firmware, but something is missing. Where is the option to use the flashlight?

edit: Ok, I found the little Torch app but that red/orange LED sucks. I guess I'll have to count it as a loss coming from the W810.

[ This Message was edited by: JAGUY85 on 2007-01-24 06:10 ]

Posted by aremaboy
Aha, that's it. I turn on the Stabilizer function. Thanks for the info.

Posted by ozzyboy
how can can I erase files protected from my phone k800i red cid49....any trick... far manager???...or any other aplication???

thx

Posted by geekgyan
The new K790i firmware has one more improvement not listed here... i.e. When in Camera mode, while choosing the Scene through the top-right button (next to the speaker), you can navigate through the scenes with the joystick. Earlier firmware would not allow you to do this.

Steps.
------------
1. Turn the camera on, by moving the slider at the back.
2. Now press the Scene selector button once (top right, next to the speaker)
3. Move the joystick left or right (when holding phone horizontally) or top and bottom (when holding phone upright) to select the scene.

Posted by aremaboy
Other finding on R1GB001:
Actually I'm not sure whether this is new or not, I just found it today..please other confirm. It may be there in the previous firmwares, I just don't recall it.
Go to Camera. Instead of pressing camera button on the side of the phone, you CAN press the joystick. In Autofocus, just hold the center of the joystick and the phone does the rest. No need to half-press the joystick, which is indeed impossible...in Infinity just press the joystick and it captures the image automatically, so does in Macro. It sounds silly though, I just don't remember at all..lol. Anyway, by using the joystick the shot taken is more steady I think..
The same thing is also in Video mode. And yes, you can select Scenes in Camera mode by moving the joystick as what the previous poster said. Correct me if I'm wrong..

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-01-24 12:16 ]

Posted by capuera
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On 2007-01-24 13:12:00, aremaboy wrote:
Other finding on R1GB001:
Actually I'm not sure whether this is new or not, I just found it today..please other confirm. It may be there in the previous firmwares, I just don't recall it.
Go to Camera. Instead of pressing camera button on the side of the phone, you CAN press the joystick. In Autofocus, just hold the center of the joystick and the phone does the rest. No need to half-press the joystick, which is indeed impossible...in Infinity just press the joystick and it captures the image automatically, so does in Macro. It sounds silly though, I just don't remember at all..lol. Anyway, by using the joystick the shot taken is more steady I think..
Correct me if I'm wrong..

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-01-24 12:16 ]




This "feature" was also in R1ED001

Posted by aremaboy
Ah, my memory again then...really just knew that 'feature' 30 mins ago...silly..LOL..after 5 months of having the phone...

Posted by SE Rules
I can't honestly believe O2 is taking this long over releasing the new firmware! It's rediculous!

Posted by glorfingal
especially annoying as O" don't tend to do very much in the way of
branding !!!!

Posted by jazon168
when i upgraded to the new firmware my front camera doesnt work anymore anybody experience the same?

Posted by andre_cool
whats the difference between the erom : R3A011 and the R3A016?

i dont this stuff so can you pls help me

Posted by andre_cool
@raw_knee

which country did you choose?

i mean for the firmware update

[ This Message was edited by: andre_cool on 2007-01-26 11:26 ]

Posted by glorfingal
@jazon168 - mine's now R1gb001 and the front camera is fine !

Posted by hanugro
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On 2007-01-26 12:20:42, andre_cool wrote:
whats the difference between the erom : R3A011 and the R3A016?

i dont this stuff so can you pls help me



The obvious: R3A016 is newer than R3A011 (bugfixing)! Older EROM have bug that can make phone dead (WSOD) in certain condition.

Posted by MICK77
HI every one i have this phone like 3 days, and i just updated to new firmware R1GB001 whit SEUS 2.7.1.12 works fine, pictures are saved much faster, just one bug when higlight the high qality video. my last version whas R1ED001. Greath phone!! Greetings from Serbia!

Posted by caryncyh
ok.. i noticed that when i connect my phone to my pc's USB, it kinda "restarts" by going to the "phone mode/flightmode" screen and when it's connected, the icon appears on the taskbar but it is not recognised on My Computer as in they do not detect the 2 extra storage devices. any idea what's wrong?

Posted by vanity
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On 2007-01-24 00:53:27, sapporobaby wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-01-23 23:57:59, ozzyboy wrote:
what firmware is better??? R1ED001 cid49 or R1GB001 cid51
wich one have much bugs???






Generally it is a good idea to have the latest. You can't go wrong in most cases. Check the first page of this thread and get an overview of the improvements.





is it necessary to update to CID 51???
i checked my fone and it show r1gb CID 49...

my fone has lot of bugs in messages...

------------------------------------------
R1GB after SEUS update this january..

--ARG... cant do anything with this one..
i always received message from "sender X" which names appears to be "sender Y"

very annoying... if i replied, the message will just be put to sent items
after "displaying a message saved in outbox" when sending

corrupted messages always appears

do you also experience this??
Help! what should i don..


Posted by xxl.k
On wotanserver.com is R1JC002

Posted by MrZippy
R1EJ001 - SEUS Version for 3-UK

Finally released today!

Posted by aremaboy
R1JC002--seeing the language packs available on Wotan, it may be another Master Release that should be available on SEUS within weeks. Anyone with Wotan credit, please share what improvements are made.

Posted by simbus82
Any change-log for R1JC002??

Posted by baste07
wotan Asian FTP seems to be down again.. although they're saying that its up

Posted by andre_cool
question:

how do you check if your erom is cd51 or cd49?

Posted by baconnugget
I just upgraded seems pretty stable release, what does master release 3 mean?

Posted by baste07
what FTP did you use? Asian? Europe?

Posted by baconnugget
europe ftp server,

Posted by eggster2k
@ kokoko

could you maybe check on your phone and see what date this new r1jc firmware is?

tia
chris

Posted by baconnugget
it the same date but looks like java has been updated to 7.3

Posted by eggster2k
ok, its dated 291106 (same as r1gb001)?

Posted by aremaboy
@kokoko:
Please, upload the details of your f/w so that we can see the camera version, Java version, Update Service version and so on.

Posted by xxl.k
Yeah, write some changes and firmware info...thx

Posted by aremaboy
If the date is the same, it's NOT the major release then...what about other people who have updated via Wotan. Please, make this thread alive..

Posted by andrzej3k
yes, it's not the major release

some details of f/w:

EROM: R3A016 / (only CID51 supported)
LCD: 200610121
Camera: 2.5
Videocall camera: 2.3
Content: PA29
Java: 7.3 (new)
Text: BT (new)

Video preview works ok



Posted by baconnugget
R1JC002
prgCXC1250210_GENERIC
_WI R1JC002

EROM: R3A016
prgCXC1250461_EROM
_DB2020_WILMA_FOT
A_SIMLOCK_FLAFLA_SI
BLEY_SEMCUSB

LCD SW versions
Main display
Current: 200610121

Camera SW versions
Camera
Current: 2.5
Video call camera
Current: 2.3

ITP SW version
CXC 125 0310 R2j

Customization
CDA102511/2 R4A
cxc1250490 R1JC001
1E0W
EUROPE_2
Memory Stick: No file
found

Content version
PA29
Memory Stick: No file
found

Java SW version
JP-7.3

Text Revision:
BT

Update service SW
UA version:
CRH1069179 R3B021
2006-10-12 08:47

[ This Message was edited by: kokoko on 2007-01-30 21:02 ]

[ This Message was edited by: kokoko on 2007-01-30 21:03 ]

Posted by darrengf
Ok I have 2 x K800i (Both are unbranded and sim free)
1 of them with R1GB001
1 of them with R1JC002

In the software version the following has changed:

Java has been updated to JP-7.3
Text Version is now BT

There is no difference in speed of the menus. But the view of playback videos has been fixed. Now when you are browsing your videos the phone no longer crashes or freezes. Infact its now instant.

If you need to no any more please ask.

People are asking if this is a major release. Answer to the question is no. There are currenlty no plans for any major releases for the K800i. The fixes and firmware updates are now for exsting faults with the phone.



[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-01-30 21:04 ]

Posted by eggster2k
thanks guys. I wonder if this new firmware will be on seus soon...

chris

Posted by marktang
i heard that it will change your phone from CID 49 - CID 51. dont know if its true or not but i updated anyways since my phone is unlocked.

Posted by darrengf
SEUS will change the phone to CID 51. This is the latest version for security in the phone.

Posted by glorfingal
won't be doing mine any time soon then - I've only just got the
menu icons how I like them !!!!

Posted by baste07
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On 2007-01-30 18:47:10, kokoko wrote:
europe ftp server,



ahh that's why... because ASIAN FTP seems to be down.. don't know why wotan won't report it

Posted by marktang
well i updated to R1JC and there's no more lag or freeze when u preview high quality video in file manager.


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