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Posted by hanugro
Hurrah, my K800 EROM has been updated with Kulan Kendi to R3A016. Now I am clear to upgrade to R1GB.

Now if someone can post the difference (if any) between updating from SEUS to third party like Kulan Kendi/wotan? What I really want to know:

1. Is that confirm that wotan does not have 2 sec delay on internet button and SEUS one has? I mean whether ppl who uses wotan find out that old firmware have 2s delay and after using wotan R1GB this is not the case anymore?
2. Is it correct that SEUS convert it to CID51 and Wotan doesn't?
3. Is the occasional font-menu-error (getting code like F:xxxx instead of proper menu heading) is corrected with R1GB?

Thanks all, especially to someone who PM me about Kulan Kendi . I have bought 1 credit but still not received them yet and I still can upgrade EROM. Well, I don't mind really as wotan client still refuse to work in my computer and I will use the kulan kendi account to change language in my wife Z610.


Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-01-02 23:13:23, darrengf wrote:
Just to note.

Erom is only updateable at SE Service Centers and Wotanserver.

SEUS Will not update EROM.

SE are still working on this and hopefull will have a fullty functioning system some time this year.



I don't think this is the case of SE can't make it work in SEUS. I think they don't want ppl to update EROM by themselves. Not to mention some SE service centre don't really know (or denying to know) that EROM is upgradeable. The reason is I don't really know.

Posted by rabmozzer
Excuse me,

I live in United States and i have the k790a. My k790a was a gift (a great one at that)...and i have not updated because I'm afraid of WSOD or corruption of the phone while updating. My f/w version is R1EG001. Should I be afraid of a corruption while updating? Should I update? Will i see a change for the best if I update?

Also, what is "Discharge Flash" in the Service menu. I accidently pressed that.

I am sorry if these question have been asked...

Your feedback will not be over looked...Thank You in advance!

Posted by sesik
Howdy. over on Howards, someone pointed out a bug that at least a couple of other people confirmed. Games and applications that you have on your memory stick from before the update will not work. Everything on the phone works fine, and replacing the game/application on the memory stick with a fresh copy of the same fixes the bug. But it's a bug none the less.

Howard thread about the issue.

Posted by b3rx
K800i M EAST N AFR not yet available...

_________________


[ This Message was edited by: b3rx on 2007-01-04 06:12 ]

Posted by aremaboy
Yes, I can confirm that ALL games and applications installed in Memory Stick Micro are 'erased' after updating via SEUS. They just show the icons but crossed, meaning they are unavailable. However, the info said that it existed. I had to re-install them again one by one yesterday. That should be paid attention to. You may have to back up your files beforehand.

Posted by nats168
Quote:

On 2007-01-03 23:09:00, aremaboy wrote:
R1GB001 findings:
-Now you have the animated desktop icon effect when you highlight or hover over each one. This animation is similar like what K750i has. Nice to see the animated highlighted icon on desktop again.
- 2 seconds delay is still present when accessing internet in this SEUS version.
- Some mp3 files like Alien Noise, Jangler and Pulse of SE fun&downloads originals are still impossible to play back.



That's strange. I don't have the 2 second delay on the internet button. When I press the button, I instantly get connected to my provider's homepage.
Even when I got the phone (R1ED001 / 06wk43), there was no 2 second delay.
This is definitely an APAC version. Already tried master reset -- still no delay.


Posted by glorfingal
From what I've read in various forums it would appear that the
SEUS update to R1GB001 changes your phone to CID51, but the
other provider updates (wotan etc) don't.

This could do with some clarification/confirmation ???

Mine was wotan'd to gb001 and stayed as CID49.

Posted by mwarner
Updated the first post to add newly discovered R1GB information.

Posted by BlurryEye
I also had to re-installed all programs after updating to R1GB via SEUS... Annoying...

Posted by baconnugget
europe 2 available via sues, just updated so far seems everything is more responsive, picture thumbnails load faster!

[ This Message was edited by: kokoko on 2007-01-04 11:08 ]

Posted by baste07
Quote:

On 2007-01-04 09:44:39, glorfingal wrote:
From what I've read in various forums it would appear that the
SEUS update to R1GB001 changes your phone to CID51, but the
other provider updates (wotan etc) don't.

This could do with some clarification/confirmation ???

Mine was wotan'd to gb001 and stayed as CID49.




how do we know if our phone is CID49 or 51?

Posted by Mike2
Quote:

On 2007-01-04 12:07:28, baste07 wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-01-04 09:44:39, glorfingal wrote:
From what I've read in various forums it would appear that the
SEUS update to R1GB001 changes your phone to CID51, but the
other provider updates (wotan etc) don't.

This could do with some clarification/confirmation ???

Mine was wotan'd to gb001 and stayed as CID49.




how do we know if our phone is CID49 or 51?

Use PhoneXS: http://www.uploads.sc/downloa[....]802d3b8c845d4ab9838c232af2dc92

Posted by MrZippy
Still on R1CD001 on 3-UK

Maybe 3 will approve R1GB001 for their network.

Still odd how R1EJ001 was released via SEUS for their K610i on 3-UK, but no updates for the K800i.

Posted by xtrem
Europe 4 is available

Posted by gazhaz
Hi,

I have a k800 and i want to upgrade the firmware, I've read through some of these pages but it seem pretty confusing.

My phone is on orange and the firmware is r1cb001- i think?!

Please can some one explain the easiest way to ungrade it and what firmware is the best.

Thanks in advance.

Posted by wopo
Sorry for my english !
SEUS stay CID49 in R1GB001 firmware , but changes your EROM CID -CID51



[ This Message was edited by: wopo on 2007-01-04 12:30 ]

Posted by prabu
Anyone in India try updated your phone to R1GB

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-01-04 13:17:47, wopo wrote:
Sorry for my english !
SEUS stay CID49 in R1GB001 firmware , but changes your EROM CID -CID51




Hei wopo, thanks for your PM! BTW, Aremaboy report that his EROM ver stays at R3A011. Funny, SE manage to upgrade EROM CID but does not really update it (version wise). How they do that? So even wotan/kulankendi now can't update k800 R1GB (EROM) anymore?

[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-01-04 12:35 ]

Posted by teesiong25
Hmm , i just wanna ask , now i already upgrade using Wotan . Can i still upgrade at SEUS ?

Currently im having CID=49 , whats the different with CID=49 and CID=51 ?

Anyone can tell me wats the different between this 2 ?

Posted by teesiong25
Sorry ya , one more thing to ask . Wat does this mean ?

- Highlighted menu item animation is now supported.

I dun get it . Anyone can tell more details ?

Posted by wopo
Now - wotan/kulankendi/daVinci klient dont update k800 R1GB CID51 EROM !

Posted by darrengf
I have noticed that old phones like the K750 / W800 debranding on wotan server still allows you to update using SEUS

I have noticed tho using Wotan Server, When connecting the K800i to SEUS all it says is that i have the latest software even when there is a new version out there.

So all i can judge from that is that no you no longer can update.

If any one is out there who can say different then please let me know.

I use the CDA/2, which is the Generic Uk

** i have since been able to update my phone using the SEUS. The Update also update my CID to 51.

Really happy


[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-01-07 01:34 ]

Posted by oringi
any1 has the update for MEDITERR customization?

Posted by imaticx
New firmware available for Croatia and T-Mobile version

Posted by mwarner
Could you guys help me with updating UK firmware versions in the first post. Currently it states:

K800
Unbranded UK (CDA102511/2) - R1CB001
O2 UK (CDA102511/41) - R1ED001
Vodafone UK (CDA102511/15) - R1ED001
Orange UK (CDA102511/47) - R1CB001
3 UK (CDA102511/69) - R1CD001
T-Mobile (CDA102511/12) - R1CF001

If users with these branded phones could let me know what firmware version they can currently update to I would be most grateful.

Mike


Posted by mdou
Quote:

On 2007-01-04 13:51:52, mwarner wrote:
Could you guys help me with updating UK firmware versions in the first post. Currently it states:

K800
Unbranded UK (CDA102511/2) - R1CB001
O2 UK (CDA102511/41) - R1ED001
Vodafone UK (CDA102511/15) - R1ED001
Orange UK (CDA102511/47) - R1CB001
3 UK (CDA102511/69) - R1CD001
T-Mobile (CDA102511/12) - R1CF001

If users with these branded phones could let me know what firmware version they can currently update to I would be most grateful.


I have just updated a mates O2 K800i via SEUS and it is still:
O2 UK (CDA102511/41) - R1ED001

I also updated my own K800i which was flashed via wotan to R1EG001 (from O2) so now unbranded.
It has now gone up to the new firmware via SEUS:
Unbranded UK (CDA102511/2) - R1GB001

The most obvious thing it has fixed (strangely) it the excessive backlight bleed I had. Any theme that had a black background had grey strips on the left & right hand sides. It now has reduced and is the same as my friends.
Very happy.

[ This Message was edited by: mdou on 2007-01-04 13:14 ]

Posted by v.d.
i`ve upgraded to r1gb001 and now my screen background light is out.
background light lights up only when you change brightness ...
fixed it with another flash from seus.

[ This Message was edited by: v.d. on 2007-01-04 14:11 ]

Posted by aremaboy
Yes, my EROM is still R3A011. I don't know which CID I have as I'm not good enough at technical stuff. I'll try download the client later to know which one. So far, I haven't got any problem with my phone albeit it holds 'older' EROM version. I always rely on SEUS and never get in touch with Wotan, SEtool, KulanKendi, TMS or Davinci. I do respect their brilliant mind, yet for me SEUS is the most reliable.
BTW, what I mean as animated icon is that now the highlighted icon pops in and out just like K750 has. It doesn't do that in the previous f/w, does it? It used to be a still, non-animated desktop icon. Or am I wrong?
In general this R1GB001 is the best f/w so far. What happens to the disfunction of games and Java apps after SEUS update process is rather the updater bug than the phone bug. As they are reinstalled, no more problems to face.
Other finding:
I don't encounter the 'Rxx:xxxx' or 'F:xxx' menu title bug anymore. As it is very rarely present, I just don't know whether this fixing is true or I just don't come across the bug yet. Anyone can confirm?

And yes, the 2 secs delay of internet key is true with me. I have no idea why SEUS has different 'execution'. It may deal with local customisation, perhaps?
And yes, my local SE shop technician do not know what EROM or anything else. They just say: I'll re-flash yours. And it has to be done in the capital city within 2 weeks. Too long. And it'll be R1BC001 still. As what I read here, the procedure to upgrade EROM is done only in UK..if our fellow darrengf hadn't exposed us to such an info, we wouldn't have been so curious and anxious about upgrading the EROM. So, maybe it's another 'area-based decision'.

Next, SEUS ver. 2.6.12.10 that I used to update my K800i had some mistaken parameter. The firmware file downloaded didn't even reach 30%--it just jumped to updating phone stage. It also said 50% updating,then directly completed to 100%. The parameter is wrong. Yet, it just successfully did the job, no need to worry.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-01-04 14:34 ]

Posted by ksng
Just upgraded to R1GB001 .

Multi character search probem at phone contact finally fixed.... It was a long long wait....



[ This Message was edited by: ksng on 2007-01-04 14:59 ]

Posted by lellobello
EU 5 available,

menus are faster and stick looks more sensible (hopefully)

Posted by hanugro
Hi guys just one more thing that I need to know. In R1ED firmware and older firmware, you can't jump into item in the File Manager menu using the numbered key (ie. from my first SE T68i, when I pressed 4 it should open the fourth item listed in the menu). Is this problem has been fixed in R1GB?

I am still reluctant upgrading to R1GB since it may change EROM to CID51.

@Aremaboy: I began to suspect that SE prefer us to bring our red-LED-flashing phone back to service centre instead of flashing EROM ourselves. Maybe in order to get feedback on how many EROM failure happen (for QC sake), or maybe so that we have to pay to fix it when warranty expired (hence CID51 ). I do hope the later is the reason. Well, I update the EROM with kulankendi and it only take about 15 seconds. Very2 fast.

Posted by Gergi
Hello!

Sorry for my bad english.
I have a big problem: I have flashed the R1GB001 firmware (from R1ED001) to my K800 and when my phone is ringing the keypad light is pulsing gradually. And when i press the # key (to make off the ringing or vibrating) only these part of the keyboard is lighting when i pressed the # key. The other parts of the keyboard is not lighting. Only when i change the blacklight intensity or wait to all backlight is off and then press either key, lights on the full keyboard. With the R1ED001 firmware was all ok!
What can I do? I had reflashed with seus several times, i had reistall seus client and then flash the phone, i had make a master reset, but nothing happend.
Thanks for the help!

Posted by teesiong25
Oic , the animated menu pop up , now only i aware . Million thanks ya .

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posted: 2007-01-04 23:40
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Hi guys just one more thing that I need to know. In R1ED firmware and older firmware, you can't jump into item in the File Manager menu using the numbered key (ie. from my first SE T68i, when I pressed 4 it should open the fourth item listed in the menu). Is this problem has been fixed in R1GB?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Regarding this matter , i still found that it remain the same in R1GB . Is there anyone's version had this bug fixed ?




Posted by bravint
@ mdou

have u updated the erom?

Posted by mwarner
@Gergi

> when my phone is ringing the keypad light is pulsing gradually.
> when i press the # key (to make off the ringing or vibrating)
> only these part of the keyboard is lighting when i pressed the # key.

Ok. On my R1ED the keyboard is still all lit up. Are you saying that with R1GB Only the # key lights up?

> Only when i change the blacklight intensity or wait to all
> backlight is off and then press either key, lights on the full
> keyboard.

So the keyboard only lights up fully again after the call is over and you unlock / lock it?

To be honest it doesn't sound like a bug to me - more like a change in functionality, so you know that the phone is ringing with volume & vibration off.

Could anyone else with R1GB try this?

Mike

Posted by Gergi


Ok. On my R1ED the keyboard is still all lit up. Are you saying that with R1GB Only the # key lights up?

No! The keyboard light has 3 level (1: key: 7,8,9,*,0,#; 2: 1,2,3,4,5,6; 3: joystick and other keys around.) By incomming call this 3 levels lights up one after the other. And when i press the # key, the light stand on 1. or 2. or 3. level, till then all light go out (screen light go out). If i dont allow to go out the light, for examle i see the missed call or go to menu, the keypad light stand on 1. or 2. or 3. level as long the screen light goes off.


So the keyboard only lights up fully again after the call is over and you unlock / lock it?

No! The keypad lights up full again after all lights is down.

Posted by Epedemic
3 Denmark (Hutch 1) R1GB001 availible on SEUS too...

Posted by Epedemic
Noticed new thing in settings "Instant viewer" in the new fw... Anyone know what that is?

Posted by Vercetti
Europe 3 available.

And that stupid bug when you go to the menu en press number 7 and you go back that it still says messages in stead off file manager is still there.

Posted by zen62619
Just updated to R1GB001 successfully using SEUS debranded using Wotan 2 months ago.

R1GB001
prgCXC1250210_GENERIC_C_WI R1GB001

EROM: R3A016
prgCXC1250461_EROM_DB2020_WILMA_FOTA_SIMLOCK_FLAFLA_SIBLEY_SEMCUSB

LCD SW versions
Main Display
Current: 200610121

Camera SW versions
Camera
Current: 2.5
Video call camera
Current: 2.3

ITP SW version
CXC 125 0310 R2j

Customization
CDA1250490 R1GB001
1E0W
EUROPE_2
Memory Stick: No file found

Content version
PA24
Memory Stick: No file found

Java SW version
JP-7.2

Text revision:
Bj

Updated service SW
UA version:
CRH1069179 R3B021
2006-10-12 08:47

Posted by Vercetti
Quote:

On 2007-01-04 19:41:33, Epedemic wrote:
Noticed new thing in settings "Instant viewer" in the new fw... Anyone know what that is?



Where did you saw that? Cuz I can't find it.

Posted by mattdonut
ive just updated mine with seus i did it before on wotan debrand to R1EJOO1 now its let me upgrade to the latest one!!
the phone was originaly on orange
the new version seems faster going though the menus now
plus i didnt notice speed dial last time i looked in settings
im not sure if its new.
one bad thing it dosent seem to ring any louder which is a shame

also ive no way of checking but would the phone be unlocked now?
for use on other networks
cheers matt

Posted by elegantcam
So even though this is a MR (Major Release) there is no significant improvement over anything?

Posted by mattdonut
im still looking!!! ill post back here if i find anything
matt

Posted by glorfingal
Right R1GB001 keypad lighting .... Wotan'd UK unbranded generic.

Silent mode, screen lights, keypad lights pulse from 0 upwards, i.e. 0 then
8 then 5 etc in a kind of "wave" and the sequence repeats.
Silent mode with keypad locked is as above.
Silent off is as above as is silent off keypad locked.

Posted by aremaboy
Yes, Speed Dial is now under Setting. It wasn't there before. It's still under Contact menu too.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-01-04 21:45 ]

Posted by Epedemic
Quote:

On 2007-01-04 20:48:40, Vercetti wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-01-04 19:41:33, Epedemic wrote:
Noticed new thing in settings "Instant viewer" in the new fw... Anyone know what that is?



Where did you saw that? Cuz I can't find it.




Settings->General-> right below Security and above Setup Wizard...

Posted by Vercetti
Quote:

On 2007-01-04 23:09:53, Epedemic wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-01-04 20:48:40, Vercetti wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-01-04 19:41:33, Epedemic wrote:
Noticed new thing in settings "Instant viewer" in the new fw... Anyone know what that is?



Where did you saw that? Cuz I can't find it.




Settings->General-> right below Security and above Setup Wizard...


Weird I don't have it, can anyone confirm this?

Posted by DCUK7
@ hanugro

Sadly the bug in the File Manager menu where it has the dodgy text search feature that doesn't work is still there. Why this functionality hasn't changed yet is beyond me!

I've mentioned it too many times now but I bloody wish they included an option to turn off that stupid video preview in the Videos section of the File Manager! It just doesn't work with high quality MP4 files!!! I am so sick of the damn thing crashing and rebooting when I hover over one of my music videos by accident!


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