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Posted by darrengf
@CheekyRic

You are more than welcome.

I have used them in the pass, just make sure that you choose files to update the phone.

Other wise the phone will not start up.

I beleive the unlock code from hem is not a normal credit, I have read that its in the range of 30-40 pound. (Not sure tho)

T-Mobile will allow you to unlock for 20£


Posted by CheekyRic
Final question - I promise(!)

Which firmware do I need?

Is there a website for me to find this out as I don't want to destroy my phone before I've used it? On Total Multi Server, I have the following options to choose from:

R1CB001_RED_CID49
R1ED001_RED_CID49

Thanks again....for now!

Posted by darrengf
[quote]
On 2007-01-02 22:55:07, CheekyRic wrote:
Final question - I promise(!)

Which firmware do I need?

Is there a website for me to find this out as I don't want to destroy my phone before I've used it? On Total Multi Server, I have the following options to choose from:

R1CB001_RED_CID49
R1ED001_RED_CID49

Thanks again....for now!


**

You are more than welcome and ask away, This is the place for questions and answers

Any way

R1ED001_RED_CID49 is the newest version you have listed but not the newest verson of firmware.

A New firmware was recently released for the K800i

R1GB001


However before you do any thing with the phone make sure that you check which version of EROM you have.

The version the phones should be shipped with is R3A016

The EROM is the Bios of the phone, This revison stops the white screening of the phone. The earlier version have the WSOD problems, however updating the firmware doesnt always like the old firmware of the phone. So be careful

Any more let me know

Posted by CheekyRic
Thanks! I'll be checking my phone tomorrow and I'll get back if I need any help!

Posted by darrengf
Just to note.

Erom is only updateable at SE Service Centers and Wotanserver.

SEUS Will not update EROM.

SE are still working on this and hopefull will have a fullty functioning system some time this year.

To update the EROM you just dont press the C button.

Any more let me know.

Posted by boab2791
Quote:

On 2007-01-02 21:48:12, boab2791 wrote:
The only other issue I notice at present is i can't send anything from my PC to the Phone when I select Phone Mode when I hook it up under USB but it will work in File Mode ok, any ideas?



Sorry to seem inpatient guys but has anyone experienced this issue, have updated my brothers K800i as well and it seems to have the same issue.

I updated both phones using Wotanserver.

Any help appreciated.

Posted by stargate26
Hi there, just a question , is any possibility to back-up the firmware already in the phone before updating to a new one?, my k800i is Vodafone branded with firmware R1ED001, and I like to updat to R1GB001 , but if in the future ( I hope not ) just in case I\ll need to go to Vodafone so that I can restore it
Thx in advantage

[ This Message was edited by: stargate26 on 2007-01-02 23:25 ]

Posted by WotanServer
Next time i post here immediately after upload but i was little bit busy in past days. We just uploaded to wotanserver following firmwares

SonyEricsson K800 R1GB001 MR2.1
SonyEricsson K790 R1GB001 MR2.1

To see what languages are available just go to wotanserver.com , choose K800 or K790 phone and click on the R1GB001 firmware and list of CDA and available languages will show up.

P.S.: MR stays for Master Release ;D

Posted by Rookwise
Quote:

On 2007-01-02 16:36:19, JoolsG4 wrote:
I just updated my K800i to the latest firmware with WotanServer. I did not check the "Disable Play Now" button.

However, now where the Play Now button was is a generic Sony Ericsson icon labelled "wap.o2.co.uk".

Even if I switch the SIM card for another network (eg. Virgin), the text "wap.o2.co.uk" appears above the icon.

How do I change this? I didn't ask for Wotan to change the Play Now button.

Is it a bug in Wotan, or did I do something wrong?




Its a bug in the Wotan Client. I've already mentioned about it a few pages back in this thread.

Below is my ongoing conversation with Wotan support called David


Andrew Stevens


Posted On: 18 Dec 2006 08:13 PM

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Hi
I've just updated my friends already generic K800i to R1EG001 and the Play Now icon has been replaced with a web link to the operators homepage.
The K800 icon menu is now the same as that of a branded phone and my friend is not happy at all as he uses the Play Now feature.
This is a VERY BIG letdown of Wotanserver and I feel extremly dissappointed in the service which I've payed money for.
There should have been an option in the wotan client to remove the Play Now icon/service or not to remove it.

As a result. My friend is now very unhappy with me because of what has happened to his phone and I want Wotanserver to inform me of how they will rectify the matter as I feel it is their fault this has happened.

Regards

Andy



David


Posted On: 19 Dec 2006 03:09 PM

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hi

There is an option in the client to tick the box to 'Disable Play Now' if you did not want this removed it was upto you to remove this, the customer has full control over it, this is why we made it like this as some customers still want to keep the play now button.


Best Regrads,

David



Andrew Stevens


Posted On: 19 Dec 2006 06:57 PM

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In the Wotan client there is a checkbox with the title "Disable Play Now". The option WAS NOT selected. Therefore. The Play Now feature shouldn't have been disabled in the phone.

I have tried this twice now and have the same results (at a total cost to me of £10)

By the description in your reply.
If I wanted to keep the Play Now feature. I should have put a tick in the "Disable Play Now" option in the Wontan Client.

Is this correct ?

Surely it should be the other way round where if the "Disable Play Now" option is selected then the software in the Wotan client would remove the Play Now feature.


Please advise on how I can get the Play Now feature back onto the phone. I do not wish to pay anymore money out for something that is not going to work properly as I feel that enough has been payed to Wotan for something that has not been completed properly.

Regards

Andy



David


Posted On: 20 Dec 2006 12:31 AM

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hi

sorry for the troubles we have found a bug, we are making some tests then will release a new client version in the next 1 - 2 days, we will give you a free credit to flash the play now button back


Best Regrads,

David



Andrew Stevens


Posted On: 20 Dec 2006 03:21 AM

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Thank you.

If possible could you please inform me via email when the new client is available and when the credit has been placed onto my account ?
This is so I can finish the phone quickly and be back in my friends good books again.

Regards

Andy



David


Posted On: 20 Dec 2006 04:10 PM

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hi Andrew

i have put this ticket on HOLD, i will reply to it as soon as it is ready


Best Regrads,

David



Andrew Stevens


Posted On: 30 Dec 2006 09:59 PM

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Hi

I was wondering if there was any update on this problem as its now been 10 days since contacting Wotan support and was told that a solution would be available within 1-2 days.

Andy



David


Posted On: 31 Dec 2006 10:01 PM

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hi Andrew

we are working full steem ahead on the new client release, but there is a lot of other things we are adding/fixing so we must be happy that all is working, it is almost ready, please bare with us and your problems will be solved.

happy new year


Best Regrads,

David



Hope this clears things up about the problems Wotan are currently having. As soon as the problems have been sorted. I'll post on here to let people know.

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-01-02 14:04:07, sleby wrote:
i have r1gb001 from service centre and i have to press my internet key for 2 seconds to start.

hanugro, yes, its R3A011. what is the point of different eprom versions?



Here is the answer from one of Davinci Team:

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In SE phones, I believe EROM actually means Extended ROM. This is the base part of the software which isn't flashed in normal update operations. It controls the flashing interface, the boot loader, etc.

Updating to the latest EROM is usually recommended, as there can be bugs in early versions, as we've seen on the DB2020 phones. However, these are rarely updated.

Blinking red LED is often caused by a corrupt EROM, but can just as well mean you have too little power in your battery for LCD operations.

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I guess the R3A011 can have WSOD so just make sure you never let the phone batt to be empty while using it.

Edit: Also look at page 138-139 in this thread for more explanation of EROM problem in K800i

[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-01-03 05:06 ]

Posted by nats168
Hello all,

Just upgraded to R1GB001 via SEUS a few hours ago.
I have the APAC version.
Since upgrading to R1GB001, the Phonebook Multi-character bug has been fixed.
The internet button launches the browser instantly upon clicking it though. NO 2-seconds delay.

Posted by jonesyp2
i am having difficulties with the wotan server

i get the following error


Now you can choose Main and Filesystem files,
and alter other settings
blocksize 0x4000
Internal DB changed to 2020
FLASHLOADER: writing header
FLASHLOADER: writing prologue
FLASHLOADER: writing payload
FLASHLOADER: OK
060721 1022 HANCXC1329129_DB2020_FLASHLOADER_R2A001
FINALIZE CHECKED
LOCK VIEW NOT CHECKED
RESET NOT CHECKED
NOFLASH NOT CHECKED
2G/3G NOT CHECKED
AMR NOT CHECKED
FASTCDA NOT CHECKED
CUSTOMIZATION NOT CHECKED
STARTING FTP CLIENT
/pub/flash_files/k800_cid49/R1GB001/generic/
K800_CXC1250210_GENERIC_WI_R1GB001_RED49.wtm
FTP: connecting to server eagle.wotanserver.com
FTP: connecting to server
FTP: downloading - please wait
FTP: close
Starting integrity checks
2e887ba34337261fff66e897eda572bd0e63cc0f
A30E8FB37BCE746730544681901658E956B6B917
MAIN: FAILED
File will be deleted, fetch it again
== FAILED ==
Duration: 17:55

any ideas?

Posted by prabu
Quote:

On 2007-01-03 10:20:13, jonesyp2 wrote:
i am having difficulties with the wotan server

i get the following error


Now you can choose Main and Filesystem files,
and alter other settings
blocksize 0x4000
Internal DB changed to 2020
FLASHLOADER: writing header
FLASHLOADER: writing prologue
FLASHLOADER: writing payload
FLASHLOADER: OK
060721 1022 HANCXC1329129_DB2020_FLASHLOADER_R2A001
FINALIZE CHECKED
LOCK VIEW NOT CHECKED
RESET NOT CHECKED
NOFLASH NOT CHECKED
2G/3G NOT CHECKED
AMR NOT CHECKED
FASTCDA NOT CHECKED
CUSTOMIZATION NOT CHECKED
STARTING FTP CLIENT
/pub/flash_files/k800_cid49/R1GB001/generic/
K800_CXC1250210_GENERIC_WI_R1GB001_RED49.wtm
FTP: connecting to server eagle.wotanserver.com
FTP: connecting to server
FTP: downloading - please wait
FTP: close
Starting integrity checks
2e887ba34337261fff66e897eda572bd0e63cc0f
A30E8FB37BCE746730544681901658E956B6B917
MAIN: FAILED
File will be deleted, fetch it again
== FAILED ==
Duration: 17:55

any ideas?



You can manually download the files and try to flash it.

Posted by jonesyp2
how do i do that?

Posted by prabu
Quote:

On 2007-01-03 10:32:17, jonesyp2 wrote:
how do i do that?



Go to www.wotanserver.com
got to my account and login
you will have an option to download the files and it will show you the credits left as well, download the files and put it in the flas folder which would have been created in the folder from where your launching the wotanclient.exe

Posted by hanugro
Hi anyone can send me older wotan client? The 09.970 always exit with error just after finished updating from eagle.wotanserver.com ftp. I tried it in 3 different computer and all has the same problem. Thanks very much!

Posted by teesiong25
Posted: 2007-01-02 23:18
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@ eggster2k

I definately didn't have it on my previous firmware because I always leave the view as the 3x3 thumbnails and I could play my music videos no problem but now on this firmware I have to switch the view to the crappy list view or else hovering over any of my music videos causes the phone to hang then reboot!

I have explored extensively and there is no option to turn off this thumbnail preview, which sucks!

Yes, Wotan's modification of the internet button remains the same (i.e. pressing it will launch the browser). They have also fixed the Memory Status option for the Application and Games folders. They now report the correct amount of disk space occupied.

@ teesiong25

The video quality might be a bit too high (i.e. the bitrate). I've noticed many of my larger MP4 videos which I have encoded to 320x240 in high quality using M3 cause the thumbnail preview to crash, then reboot the phone. The previewer seems to work best on 3GP videos but you do get a loss of quality compared with MP4. The other thing you can do is change the view mode from 3x3 thumbnails to list view.
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Million thanks for your help . I will try it . Anyway , thanks bro . have a nice day and happy new year !!!

Posted by Dovern
My K800i is HK version... havent got R1GB available on SEUS yet

Posted by baste07
Quote:

On 2007-01-03 10:38:14, prabu wrote:
Quote:

On 2007-01-03 10:32:17, jonesyp2 wrote:
how do i do that?



Go to http://www.wotanserver.com
got to my account and login
you will have an option to download the files and it will show you the credits left as well, download the files and put it in the flas folder which would have been created in the folder from where your launching the wotanclient.exe




after downloading the file. what should be the next step to flash your phone?

Posted by aremaboy
Hi, I just plugged my K800i 5 minutes ago to SEUS and it said that I had new firmware available, that is APAC. I think SEUS has released the new R1GB001 for us....unfortunately my internet connection is very very bad today...I don't think that I'll be updating my phone any fast. The Taiwan quake effect or perhaps the busy overloaded SEUS. I am trying to update now. It may take hours then. I hope it will be successful.....hm....I'll be back with the improvements later...wish me luck.

Posted by Tony Heng
just got R1GB001 too

Posted by baste07
i'm going to just try SEUS also. hopefully its the R1GB

Posted by aremaboy
Alhamdulillah, I managed successfully to update to R1GB001 via SEUS. Here is the firmware info:

R1GB001
prgCXC1250214 _CHINA_WI R1GB001

EROM :R3A011
prgCXC1250461_EROM_DB2020_WILMA_FOTA_SIMLOCK_FLAFLA_SIBLEY_SEMCUSB

LCD SW versions
Main display
Current: 200610121

Camera SW versions
Camera
Current:2.5
Video call camera
Current:2.3

ITP SW version
CXC 125 0310 R2J
Customization
CDA102568/101 R4A
cxc1250490 R1GB001
APAC
Memory Stick : No file found

Content version
PA24
Memory Stick : No file found

Java SW version
IP-7.2
Text revision
BJ

Update service SW
UA version
CRH1069179 R3B021
2006-10-12 08:47

I haven't explored my phone thourouhly yet, but I just found out that the video highlight in video folder is different from the previous R1ED001. Once it's highlighted, you can see it playing...nice...I'll be back later with more findings as I get home. It's a tiring happy day...no need to pay Wotan for R1GB001.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2007-01-03 13:39 ]

Posted by hanugro
Darn, I went to SE service centre at Jakarta Indonesia today to update the EROM. Those ppl does not even have a clue of what EROM is and they insist it is the same package with firmware and I already got the newest firmware R1ED (obviously they have not aware that R1GB is released today). They can't upgrade EROM alone . I really hope that wotan release new client that work in my computer real soon. SE really need to train their service centre better.
Anyway know whether kulankendi can update EROM? Their client seems to work OK in my computer!

[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-01-03 13:55 ]

[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-01-03 13:58 ]

Posted by Dovern
just updated to R1GB... havent noticed any big change yet.. will update later.

Posted by baste07
am updateing my phone right now


Posted by baste07
jsut finished.. that was quick about 20 mins only.. have R1GB right now.

Posted by mwarner
Updated the first post following availability of R1GB.

Posted by bravint
Apparently the new update changes the phone from cid 49 to cid 51

http://forums.se-nse.net/inde[....]621&pid=83734&st=0&#entry83734

has anyone else noticed this?

@ hanugro

kulan kendi and wotan server can both update the erom (i used wotan server) but there's no point in updating it if your phone's fine now

[ This Message was edited by: bravint on 2007-01-03 14:22 ]

Posted by presto
THE UPDATE IS NOT AVAILABLE ON T-MOBILE UK YET.

CHECKED AS OF 03/01/2007 @ 15:26pm.

Posted by wopo
THE UPDATE IS AVAILABLE ON CENTRAL_EUROPE !!! (Poland in my case)

[ This Message was edited by: wopo on 2007-01-04 07:46 ]

Posted by Vercetti
No update here

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-01-03 15:19:26, bravint wrote:

@ hanugro

kulan kendi and wotan server can both update the erom (i used wotan server) but there's no point in updating it if your phone's fine now




Well, page 138-139 in this thread make me worry about my R3A011 EROM. I am keeping my batt full everytime (charging everyday) but I just want to be safe.

I have 2 wotan credit but the client does not work in all of my 3 computer (all behind router and firewall) so I am buying 1 kulankendi credit just to be able to update EROM as my service centre is useless. Still waiting for login and password from kulankendi.

[ This Message was edited by: hanugro on 2007-01-03 16:26 ]

Posted by aremaboy
No need to be worried about EROM. My R3A011 is just fine..it's been 5 months since I bought the phone. Why fixes what isn't broken? SEUS is free, BTW.

Posted by ja@mx
k790a also was updated to R1GB001, I am on EROM R3A011 using SEUS.


Posted by physh
AVAILABLE for western europe (France in my case).

Posted by Xugaa
Can I update to R1GB001 using an O2 UK K800 yet?

Posted by xtrem
Europe4 (nordic) it not available yet

Posted by stargate26
Hi there, update is nice but what if u need downgrade? can anyone tell me to back-up my original ( crap Vodafone ) ?
Grtx
Stargate26

Posted by jcwhite_uk
O2 UK K800i's are not supported yet.

Posted by Xugaa
^ Noooooo!



Posted by glorfingal
Hhmmmm - Mine was O2 UK, now using R1GB001 without any problems
at all

Posted by lakofka
Hi everyone. This is a really enlightening thread from which I've learnt a lot but, wouldn't you know it, I've got a couple of questions.
My K800 was originally an O2 contract phone, but I updated the firmware using WotanServer to R1ED001 back last year. In the process losing the couple of applications I baught from the SE site. Now I'm looking to update to the R1GB001 firmware (who isn't?). So:

1. Has anyone with a UK phone managed to use SEUS to upgrade to R1GB001 yet? I've been comparing signatures to Yes's but I haven't any from the UK yet.
2. If the answer to (1) above is 'Yes', why can't I? My understanding is that the WotanServer firmware will use the generic SE firmware and I won't have to wait for the O2 variant.
3. Anyone know if it's possible to redownload applications baught from the SE site? Losing stuff I've paid for when I upgrade the firmware is a pain, though I understand that this won't happen with a SEUS update.
4. Okay, I see glorfingal answered one of my questions before I even posted it, impressive, and it looks like I should be able to update the firmware by now. So perhaps I have the wrong firmware region. Which one should I have? I'm thinking this one (in WotanServer notation): K800_CXC1250490_EUROPE_2_R1GB001_RED49.wtf. Is that the right?

Thanks again.


[ This Message was edited by: lakofka on 2007-01-03 20:39 ]

[ This Message was edited by: lakofka on 2007-01-03 21:12 ]

Posted by ja@mx
New BUG on R1GB: (k790a)
if anyone else can confirm this, when using USB transfer, it only sees the memory stick as a drive not the phone memory anymore.

Posted by aremaboy
R1GB001 findings:
-Now you have the animated desktop icon effect when you highlight or hover over each one. This animation is similar like what K750i has. Nice to see the animated highlighted icon on desktop again.
- 2 seconds delay is still present when accessing internet in this SEUS version.
- Some mp3 files like Alien Noise, Jangler and Pulse of SE fun&downloads originals are still impossible to play back.

Posted by baste07
thanks for the info.. didn't really notice that from previous FW that the animation in the desktop was gone.

i really liked the preview on the movie files

Posted by hanugro
Quote:

On 2007-01-03 23:09:00, aremaboy wrote:
R1GB001 findings:
-Now you have the animated desktop icon effect when you highlight or hover over each one. This animation is similar like what K750i has. Nice to see the animated highlighted icon on desktop again.


Well looking forward to see one. Neither my old S700 nor my wife Z610 is animated. SO my k800 will be the first animated menu that I have.

Quote:

- 2 seconds delay is still present when accessing internet in this SEUS version.


Good to hear that!

Quote:

- Some mp3 files like Alien Noise, Jangler and Pulse of SE fun&downloads originals are still impossible to play back.


Well, just a suggestion, can you extract the mp3 and play it in PC? Then you may use mp3 editor and resave it (maybe at different bitrate) and put it back to the phone. Maybe they can play after this.

Posted by Dovern
@aremaboy

The 2 seconds delay for internet button is not a bug... SE did it to prevent something.

Posted by prabu
Not available in India yet (SEUS).

Posted by obentou
Yeah the 2 second thing was to prevent accidental connection to the internet, which costs a lot of money with some providers.

Shame to see a bunch of bugs still on the phone. I'm glad I got off the Sony Ericsson train while I could. Bought the N73ME v3 and I can say it works quite well, despite the crappier camera.


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