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Posted by McLaren_F1
Hey i was wondering if i could downgrade Firmwares on Wotan and not have any problems?


Posted by joebloggsy
Hi everyone.

I've just updated on Wotan and now I can't make outgoing phone calls. I can send texts and receive incoming calls, but not outgoing ones!

Anyone got any advice? I've tried the SIM card in my old phone and I can still call out on that one, so I'm guessing that it's a problem with the phone, maybe a setting that I need to change?

PLEASE HELP.

Posted by joebloggsy
Hmm, it seems to have resolved itself. I turned the phone on this morning and it worked. Last night it worked if I turned off the 3G network and stayed on 2G, but this morning I went back on the 3G and I can call out again. Happy now.

Posted by baste07
must be a glitch on the phone or maybe your provider. good to hear all is well

Posted by baste07
btw jsut want to confirm. if the R1EJ was officially released by SEUS?

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-11-22 10:14:44, joebloggsy wrote:
Hmm, it seems to have resolved itself. I turned the phone on this morning and it worked. Last night it worked if I turned off the 3G network and stayed on 2G, but this morning I went back on the 3G and I can call out again. Happy now.



This is not totally uncommon. It happens to me as well sometimes. I have to use GSM services and then all the features work. However if I switch to 3G, I can not make or receive calls. This is more than likely an operator issue. Your phone was probably fine all the time but it was coincidental that you had problems.

Posted by baste07
will it be possible for future apps to be able to record FM signals? will the phone be able to allow such programs?

Posted by Red_Rach
How do you actually turn off the 3g signal without losing GPRS as well?

Posted by senninha
GPRS runs on the GSM system so you won't lose it by turning 3G off.

you can also switch the phone to Circuit-switched mode only which turns GPRS off, and only turns it on as needed as opposed to having it on all the time.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-11-23 01:02:00, baste07 wrote:
will it be possible for future apps to be able to record FM signals? will the phone be able to allow such programs?



Do you mean radio stations or FM signals in general?

To create such a program could open up the vender to copyright infringement problems, as copying such "FM signals" would in most cases be against the law as the copied material would be subject to someone's approval. Second, where would these signals be stored once copied? Third, the only software that could be used (I could be wrong here), would have to be written in Java most likely and at the end of the day, Java is slow and not the most stable even on these phones. Fourth, why would anyone want to record signals in the first place as the quality would be crap.

Posted by aremaboy
@sapporobaby:
I think baste07 is talking about the possibility of TrackID on K800i as it is found on W850-W950..it would be wonderful to record songs from radio and then send it to GraceNote server to get its ID..maybe, any alternative way to do so?

Posted by alan230950
Had to send my K800 in for repair, kept losing sound if you slightly tapped or put the phone down sharply.. Came back with the new RE1J software on it! I'm on 3....

Posted by aremaboy
It's about time that R1EJ is released on SEUS or not. No need to hurry..it can be anytime soon or later..or even never..we have this stable R1ED, right?

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-11-23 13:09:00, aremaboy wrote:
@sapporobaby:
I think baste07 is talking about the possibility of TrackID on K800i as it is found on W850-W950..it would be wonderful to record songs from radio and then send it to GraceNote server to get its ID..maybe, any alternative way to do so?



Hey Aremaboy. How are you?

Regarding the capture of copyrighted material, even if it is on the radio has legal ramifications and I am sure that SE will not go down that road. Which is the reason behind Apple not allowing radio stream capture via their radio device for the iPod. This is a non-starter idea. You have to remember that the data streamed via the radio belongs to the artist and possibly the radio station that is broadcasting it.

Posted by Yellow160
Hi,

New to the forum so forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere.

My phone is an unbranded k800i with R1CA018 firmware which sounds like it's waaaaaaaay out of date.

SEUS, however, tells me that there are no updates available.

The phone doesn't have the Settings | Update menu item either.

Does anyone know which firmware SEUS is currently downloading for unbranded phones, and why SEUS doesn't work for my phone?

Thanks
jk

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-11-23 15:49:31, Yellow160 wrote:
Hi,

New to the forum so forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere.

My phone is an unbranded k800i with R1CA018 firmware which sounds like it's waaaaaaaay out of date.

SEUS, however, tells me that there are no updates available.

The phone doesn't have the Settings | Update menu item either.

Does anyone know which firmware SEUS is currently downloading for unbranded phones, and why SEUS doesn't work for my phone?

Thanks
jk



The info you need is on the first page of this thread.

Posted by baste07
Quote:

On 2006-11-23 15:49:31, Yellow160 wrote:
Hi,

New to the forum so forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere.

My phone is an unbranded k800i with R1CA018 firmware which sounds like it's waaaaaaaay out of date.

SEUS, however, tells me that there are no updates available.

The phone doesn't have the Settings | Update menu item either.

Does anyone know which firmware SEUS is currently downloading for unbranded phones, and why SEUS doesn't work for my phone?

Thanks
jk



you're phone doesn't have the Settgs>update menu?

is your phone branded? although i would still think it should contain that menu, but i am not sure if some branding do take away that menu

Posted by PhoenixRising
Quote:

On 2006-11-23 15:49:31, Yellow160 wrote:
Hi,

New to the forum so forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere.

My phone is an unbranded k800i with R1CA018 firmware which sounds like it's waaaaaaaay out of date.

SEUS, however, tells me that there are no updates available.

The phone doesn't have the Settings | Update menu item either.

Does anyone know which firmware SEUS is currently downloading for unbranded phones, and why SEUS doesn't work for my phone?

Thanks
jk



I have the exact same problem. Bought an early, unbranded K800i, firmware version is R1CB001. The SUES still tells me that there are no updates available. My CDA version is CDA102511/2 so there should be an update available according to the info on the first page of this thread.

I also have no Settings>General>Update menu.

Anyone have any ideas?

My phone shows a manufacture date of 06W24. What does yours say Yellow160? You'll find it on the barcode sticker behind the battery (which you'll have to take out to see it).

Cheers.

_________________
T610 -> K700i -> S700i -> K750i -> ?

[ This Message was edited by: PhoenixRising on 2006-11-24 11:05 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
@PhoenixRising

Mine has a date of 06/23. Are you near a SE svc ctr? If so, take it there and see if they can upgrade it. The upgrade should be part of the menu system as well as being supported in the user manual. In fact, check this and see if it mentions the OTA Upgrade.

In what region did you purchase your phone?

Posted by aremaboy
@sapporobaby:
Hi. I'm just fine. I haven't been as industrious as before just because there are no new findings of the latest K800i firmware. Later, when SEUS releases new f/w, I'll be here for most of time..thank you.
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Some K800i don't have FOTA feature. They are mostly branded..I don't know why. Maybe wotanserver is the way out?

Posted by MrZippy
My wifes K800i does not have the FOTA menu, but I would imagine SEUS would still work... I really don't know why operators remove the FOTA - seems silly.

My K610i on 3-UK same as my wifes K800i does not have FOTA menu, but it updated over SEUS just fine to R1EJ001 - but still no update from R1ED001 for the K800i.

Posted by dayz
can someone tell me when SE is going to release new version?

Posted by glorfingal
some operators are a real pain when they brand a handset.
couple of guys at work have vodafone uk w810i's which don't have the FOTA
either !!!!
Thank god for operators that don't mess with the phone (hurray o2 uk)

Posted by baste07
really? no FOTA update menu? hehe that sucks.

oh the w810 also has the FOTA, didn't knew that, i though only the new ones have this

Posted by PhoenixRising
Quote:

On 2006-11-24 12:25:04, sapporobaby wrote:
@PhoenixRising

In what region did you purchase your phone?




Phone was purchased in the UK as a sim-free unbranded handset.

My EROM version says: EROM: R3A001 prgCXC1250461_EROM_DB2020_WILMA_FOTA_SIMLOCK_FLAFLA_SIBLEY_SEMCUSB

Is that normal, especially the WILMA part, which I believe was the original project name for the K800? I reckon my phone software is just a very early version which causes problems with SEUS. Maybe I'll have to use the WOTAN route to get a newer firmware which will work with SEUS in the future.


Posted by baste07
what's different is your EROM


Posted by sPank
wanna add something to the list...not really a bug, but an annoyance...

on the orignal firmware....

if you lock the keypad, then try to unlock it straight away it won't let you until a few seconds later.....

like i said, not really a bug, just an annoying thing....

[ This Message was edited by: sPank on 2006-11-24 17:45 ]

Posted by adriandaz
I'm with O2, and my K800i had the original SEUS firmware on, with just a few O2 settings/features added, however it was still pretty much unbranded, it still has the OTA update etc... But it never did say there was an update available.

I decided to update to the latest debranded wotanserver firmware, which has fixed a few bugs and problems, I am quite happy with the £4.99 upgrade

Posted by baste07
yeah. wotan is great.i used it to unlock my phone too. but for future updates/upgrades i woould like to be able to use the FOTA

Posted by jepherberich
I really shouldve asked this question here:

anyone flashed a silver K800 with the regular K800 firmware yet? It doesnt seem at all different to me, except for the extra *strikethrough*bloat*strikethrough* bond content.. unless anyone here knows otherwise...

Posted by baste07
oh, didn't realize the silver one has a diff firmware

Posted by Lee69
Is there a manual way of installing the firmware, since the SEUS doesnt work for me?

Edit: updated link: http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=136085

[ This Message was edited by: Lee69 on 2006-11-25 14:01 ]

Posted by aremaboy
For those with new batch of K800i, say, the James Bond K800i, please tell us your firmware version and details. I am wondering which EROM is installed. 011 or 016. Thank you.

Posted by baste07
yeah interested in this one too.. if there's any difference with the bond k800

Posted by Lee69
I have a k800i on the 3 network, but when i got to the SEUS, it says there's no update available. But my phone's firmware is the initial 3G release... why haven't they allowed to update to the latest firmware yet?

Posted by baste07
if your phone is branded than its up to your telco to decide if they'll allow a new FW

Posted by Lee69
Quote:

On 2006-11-25 16:49:16, baste07 wrote:
if your phone is branded than its up to your telco to decide if they'll allow a new FW


Bah, that's going to take ages then. O2 worked fine on my k750i, I guess 3 are just slower.

Posted by Red_Rach
Ive found another bug with the R1G1000 firmware. If you use call waiting and you're on a call and another one comes in at the same time. On the call waiting menu you can choose to end the current call. If you choose to do this is take to you another menu. But you can't answer the incoming call because the "Answer" and Busy icon's are on top of each other. It's hard to explain but try it out and you'll see what I mean!

Posted by jepherberich
Here's to all the *strikethrough*geeks*strikethrough* enthusiasts out there --


R1EJ001
prgCXC1250214_CHINA_WI R1EJ001

EROM: R3A016
prgCXC1250461_EROM_DB2020_WILMA_FOTA_SIMLOCK_FLAFLA_SIBLEY_SEMCUSB

LCD SW versions
Main display
Current: 200608251

Camera SW versions
Camera
Current: 2.5
Video call camera
Current: 2.3

ITP SW version
CXC 125 0310 R2N

Customization
CDA102511/120 R2A cxc1250490 R1EJ001 APAC
Memory Stick:
CDA102715_1

Content vrsion
PA24
Memory Stick: R1A

Java SW version
JP-7.1

Text revision:
BA

Update service SW
UA version:
CRH1069179 R3B019 2006-06-30 12:43

Posted by aremaboy
Latest finding on R1ED001:
Very occassional---I have a mixed-up language. Sometimes on the menu title I have Filipino instead of Bhs. Indonesia along with strange code initiated with R26: 3564 or R20:6854 or the like. Yet, as I navigate back, this weirdness is gone. I don't know how to reproduce it intentionally. Mine is APAC.

Posted by sss200
hey guys,

i am located in australia, and my k800i still wont let me upgrade the firmware, and i've got the original firmware still on there. Everytime i go and try the upgrade it says i have the latest firmware which is not true.

Posted by baste07
Quote:

On 2006-11-26 06:43:00, aremaboy wrote:
Latest finding on R1ED001:
Very occassional---I have a mixed-up language. Sometimes on the menu title I have Filipino instead of Bhs. Indonesia along with strange code initiated with R26: 3564 or R20:6854 or the like. Yet, as I navigate back, this weirdness is gone. I don't know how to reproduce it intentionally. Mine is APAC.



yeah i've encountered that aswell.... just pops up...

Posted by schumy_f1
Someone pls tell me if the R1EJ001 or R1EG001 is available on Romania.

Posted by mwarner
Add software versions for R1EJ001 to the first post. Thanks axilom!

Posted by jepherberich
@mwarner: no sweat buddy

@baste07, aremaboy: what fw versions are you on? this bug really annoys the hell out of me

Also, has anyone tried flashing to R1ED001 via davinci (the latest they have) and then use SEUS afterwards?

Posted by baste07
i'm using R1EJ

Posted by mrwoll
Just to report something wierd that happened. I posted a reply last week sometime saying that I updated my o2 K800i already once using SEUS and everything was fine. Then things started acting weird on my phone so I re-updated but this time certain things had changed (ie the internet shortcut key would load the browser instantly instead of needing to be held down a couple of seconds)

Anyhow my phone died last weekend and I had to send it off and get a replacement. On the new replacement phone I have got R1DE and EPROM 16 so it's all up to date. But the internet shortcut key still doesnt operate as it did when I first updated to R1D.

So my guess is o2 have made some more modifications to their FW, which if they have is a bit sneaky, I mean why take out that internet key delay unless they want people to connect accidentally.

Who knows...

Posted by aremaboy
@axilom:
Mine is R1ED001 updated via SEUS. The mixed-up language menu even gets worse. I have it more often now, yet it just gets normal as quickly as that..then comes back..and then normal again..hmm..but why?
Anyway, what's improved in R1EJ? Does it fix bugs of R1ED? Why doesn't anyone review it?

Posted by Red_Rach
Isnt R1G before R1J?

Posted by boab2791
I have a UK '3' brnaded handset stuck on the 3 release of R1CD001 and after having it 5 months still no available update on SEUS to update to later less buggy firmware.

Considering upgrading via Wotanserver, will 3 services still work, like MSN Messenger if the phone gets a generic firmware placed on it?

Always wary of upgrading phone firmware, looks relatively easy. Wotanserver also tells me my EPROM is way too old, how does that get updated?

Thanks


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