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Posted by [CC]RebelsAd
To those who wondered if branding could be restored it is possible.

I had debranded from Vodafone using Wotanserver and changed my CDA to a Generic UK one (Dont ask me why). The debranding also gave me the latest firmware (R1ED001). The Green and Red phone keys that Vodaphone added to the phone proved to be annoying with the generic firmware as i / everybody else kept pressing them to make / end a call. These keys launch the internet etc on the generic firmware and this became annoying so i decided to try to get the branding back and this is how i had to do it:

1. As R1ED001 is still the newest version on SEUS i had to use Davinci to revert back to R1CB001.
2. Before flashing the firmware i had to get the Vodafone CDA from the first page and enter it manually into Davinci as i had changed my CDA (Wotanserver does not allow you to enter it manually).
3. After flashing completed i ran SEUS and it detected that an update was available (It was something like VodEUM2 Live2) and i continued with the update.
4. When the update completed i switched on the phone and checked the software version and it had indeed updated. The EROM obviously stayed the same version as before as SEUS does not update the EROM yet.
5. Vodafone users only: This update seems to bring with it a new version of the branding so be prepaired as the top left button is set as Ticker by default (Although this can be disabled to allow it to be used for Menu access) and the right hand menu button doesnt perform a function on the idle screen.

RA.


Posted by Red_Rach
Mmm I'll be trying this with O2, my phone needs to go back to O2

Posted by presto
Someone needs to update the first post to state that O2 & Vodafone have released FW updates for UK (or European) based networks.

Posted by baste07
don't worry it will be udpated

Posted by admad
Can somebody who updated firmware on SEUS right after it was realeased tell me which CDA his k800i have? Because i still can't update and my cda is generic UK...

Posted by skin
I is on O2UK but still unable to upgrade FW via SEUS :(

This message was posted from a K800i

Posted by mephisto2k
Quote:

5. Vodafone users only: This update seems to bring with it a new version of the branding so be prepaired as the top left button is set as Ticker by default (Although this can be disabled to allow it to be used for Menu access) and the right hand menu button doesnt perform a function on the idle screen.

RA.



Could you explain this better please? I have a branded VFUK, never unbranded, updated to R1ED via SEUS and don't have what you're describing. What's the "Ticker"?

Posted by skin
Tried to update firmware using SEUS on my K800i again. Usually says I have the latest software. Now its saying "Device Management Sony Ericsson Communication Interrupted". Anybody enlighten me as to what this can mean and why the sudden change? Thanks in advance, Skin

This message was posted from a K800i

Posted by chrisnewman
@Rebelsad

"5. Vodafone users only: This update seems to bring with it a new version of the branding so be prepaired as the top left button is set as Ticker by default (Although this can be disabled to allow it to be used for Menu access) and the right hand menu button doesnt perform a function on the idle screen. "

Nope mate I have that firmware from Voda and same as it was before, left soft key is "Menu" and right soft key is "Toolbar". No mention of a ticker anywhere...........


Posted by obentou
I haven't been here for a while. But I just wanted to say, that the call list bug being frozen (having a blank space at the bottom) and the alarms not going off are still present in the most recent firmware, R1EG001 K790i.

Posted by [CC]RebelsAd
Quote:

On 2006-11-01 15:13:27, mephisto2k wrote:

Could you explain this better please? I have a branded VFUK, never unbranded, updated to R1ED via SEUS and don't have what you're describing. What's the "Ticker"?



Sure: When i updated to R1ED the top left button changed from the "Calls" function to "Ticker" and the top right button no longer performed any function whereas it formally functioned as a "Menu" button.

The Ticker option seems to be some form of internet news ticker. It can be activated / deactivated in the Settings > General > Ticker section. If you like i can take a photo with my GF's Samsung E720 and upload it although the quality wont be the best.

RA.

Posted by GavinAshford
I dont know if this is indeed a firmware issue but i didnt think it was worth starting a new thread about it.

I got sent multimedia message yesterday, the sender sent the mms to multiple people at the same time however when i attempt to download the message it connects to the server and downloads the message but then it does not seem to disconnect the server and after 40seconds or so the phone crashes with the wsod and then comes back to the standby screen after a bit.

Im currently on O2UK with a wotan debranded k800i running firmware R1CB001 EU2 Generic.

All other mms messages work fine (sending and recieving) appart from this one, the same message was sent to me again with just me as the recipient and i recieved that one fine.

Has anyone else come across this problem/issue? Could it just be the fact it was sent to multiple recipients? Anyone got any ideas what so ever?

Below is a video of what i am describing, the icon in the message list is a greyed out mms icon (the envelope with the arrow) appologies for the breaks in the video, my digi camera only allows 15seconds of recording so i had to join them together, also the time for downloading is much longer than you see here.

http://osiris.sunderland.ac.uk/~ca3gas/Video/MediaMessage.mp4

Posted by killsta
Not tried updating to the latest f/w?

Posted by GavinAshford
i would if it was released on seus for the uk generic, but since im a tight pocketed student i need to spend my change on alcohol rather than wotan again.

when it does become available if i remember rightly all messages etc stay on the phone and dont get wiped with seus and i'll check the message again.

Posted by aremaboy
It's been a month since R1ED001 was released on SEUS. It's really a great work by SE engineers. No crashes--no major flaws. I enjoy using my phone. Hope that it'll be as good as it is now for the upcoming updates. Not like K750 recent update that is considered 'big mistake' in terms of mp3 quality.

Posted by baste07
yeah no major flaws...

hope the next upgrade would be more on enhancments or new functionalities

Posted by Vercetti
Hope they'll release it soon, I want some new functions.
R1ED001 is so nice, no crashes. Hope SE won't screw up the mediaplayer.

Posted by Sirhackalot
Quote:

On 2006-11-05 16:18:33, Vercetti wrote:
Hope they'll release it soon, I want some new functions.
R1ED001 is so nice, no crashes. Hope SE won't screw up the mediaplayer.




Sorry to say but this isn't like the psp were you get new functions every update. The updates are just for correcting bugs.

Posted by Vercetti
Helloo wake up, there are some new function in R1ED001 too, so there's a chance they will put some little things in it.

Posted by Rouss3l
There has been many cases where upgraded firmware has ushered in new features/functions. Of course its not going to be huge, but there is a chance of a few new ones.

Posted by lewis71980
What does an EROM do? And how does it affect me if it hasn't been updated?

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-11-06 00:16:31, Vercetti wrote:
Helloo wake up, there are some new function in R1ED001 too, so there's a chance they will put some little things in it.




You wake up dude. He is correct. The releases mainly fix bugs and try to prevent others from occuring. New enhancements are for the next model. Just because SE puts in one or maybe two enhancements does not mean that they will continue developing on this platform. As it stands, you might not see anymore upgrades as the k800i is now old news and out dated. SE drives on, you should too. Better start saving your pennies for a new model or get left behind.

Posted by mephisto2k
Quote:

On 2006-11-03 23:31:18, [CC]RebelsAd wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-11-01 15:13:27, mephisto2k wrote:

Could you explain this better please? I have a branded VFUK, never unbranded, updated to R1ED via SEUS and don't have what you're describing. What's the "Ticker"?



Sure: When i updated to R1ED the top left button changed from the "Calls" function to "Ticker" and the top right button no longer performed any function whereas it formally functioned as a "Menu" button.

The Ticker option seems to be some form of internet news ticker. It can be activated / deactivated in the Settings > General > Ticker section. If you like i can take a photo with my GF's Samsung E720 and upload it although the quality wont be the best.

RA.



Ok mate, I don't think you've got the VF UK firmware then, not sure what's been downloaded to your phone, but on R1D VF the top left button is Menu, and top right is Toolbar. There isn't even a "Ticker" optin in the Settings menu!

Posted by baste07
Quote:

On 2006-11-06 00:16:31, Vercetti wrote:
Helloo wake up, there are some new function in R1ED001 too, so there's a chance they will put some little things in it.




there's a chance.... but don't put your money there it will be a major upgrade or additional functionality

Posted by gudgin
Haven't checked for Orange UK firmware for a while, but I think it's safe to assume it's not out yet

I can also confirm that asking the orange retailers does nothing. They told me to contact Sony Ericsson because Orange don't have anything to do with the firmware.....

Posted by wopo
New client in SEUS 2.6.11.7 !


Posted by gudgin
new client, but no new Orange UK update

Posted by obentou
Hey guys.

I haven't been on here in a while (since I haven't encountered any bugs - I used to be quite the complainer here for the new firmware) but I've come into a serious problem.

The alarm function of my K790i does not work anymore. Everytime I set the alarm to wake at a certain time, it wakes the phone, but when the melody starts playing the phone immediately "crashes" to the WSOD and shuts off, thereby disabling the alarm itself. When I turn on the phone, the alarm indicator is set to the time I originally set it at, and not 9 minutes later, so I know it didn't snooze itself.

What can be the problem here? Any help is appreciated.

Posted by darrengf
Sorry People.

I have check with my sources and Orange still hasnt approved the update.

All the other networks have except Orange.

I will keep checking but i will say that it will be another few weeks before orange approve the update,

Posted by obentou
Alright, in response to my above bug, after extensive testing, I've come to isolate the bug.

The phone date, if set to the month of September (2006) will have all alarms go off without fail when the phone is off. However, any latter dates (ie. Oct, Nov, Dec 2006, and Jan 2007 onwards) will cause the alarm to fail when the phone is off.

I don't know what the hell is going on, but this is a piece of shit programming by SE. That is all I have to say.

For other K790i users out there, please test this out for me. I am currently on the APAC R1EG001 firmware to keep the tests identical.

Edit: My EROM is also to the most current version, the R13016 or whatever it's called.

Edit 2: The phone is unbranded.

[ This Message was edited by: obentou on 2006-11-06 21:50 ]

Posted by darrengf
Sorry obentou.

I have seen the info. I will feed back and let you know. You currenlty have the latest version of the firmware.

One thing you need to try is a master reset first and see if this resolved the issus.

Daz

[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2006-11-07 08:53 ]

Posted by obentou
Please see the previous page, I have made changes to answer your questions.

Posted by patrick_teo
R1ED did not resolve one bug. When a task reminder pops up, there is an option to "Delete from list" which does nothing when selected.

Posted by jasond
Better late than never - I just updated to R1ED001 with Wotan (Da Vinci must get a kick of of keeping me waiting!).

I'd like to add my pleasure at finding that the 'fade to black' effect that the keyboard pulls when the phone is inactive has been fixed up, and is now much smoother than it was on the first firmware.

Previously it stuttered its way to black - now... sexy. haha.
Something to be added to the change log.

And although my two cents may not be worth a lot, I've had a hunt through the list and all noted changes/improvements are correct!

I too have wondered what the 'Delete from list' option for reminders was supposed to do. Nothing, at the moment anyway!

Will test out the audio player in my car and see if there are any reported volume improvements. Would of course be nice, but never dire.

_________________
T65> K700i> K750i> K800i> Mars.

[ This Message was edited by: jasond on 2006-11-07 08:57 ]

Posted by obentou
Oh well. All these pesky bugs convinced me to move over to the Nokia N73. Hopefully that's a better phone. If it isn't... well.. back to the K790. Haha!

Posted by mårten
A bug with my HBH-DS970 and R1ED001 FW.

1. Start a song (doesn't matter if you start with you headset or on the phone itself) and press back-button on the phone.
2. Then select a playlist (doesn't matter if you select new or same) and select a new song.

Now there is no sound in the headset. The song is playing and you can see the song title in the headset display, but there is no sound.
Only way to get it to work again is to disconnect the headset and then connect it again.

Anyone experienced this?

Posted by Sirhackalot
Quote:

On 2006-11-07 07:39:37, patrick_teo wrote:
R1ED did not resolve one bug. When a task reminder pops up, there is an option to "Delete from list" which does nothing when selected.



So the bug fix information that has been posted on the first page for R1ED001 isn't true? => http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=124349&start=0
If you really think that this information is misleading then report it to the admin.

Posted by mwarner
I have just tried to reproduce the "Delete from list" bug mentuioned above on R1ED, but could not do so.

I set an event in the calendar to go off 1 minute in the future with a reminder set. Selecting More / Delete from list deleted the reminder from the list as expected.

If you know of a way to reproduce the bug, please PM me.


Posted by Red_Rach
its the bugs and the joystick problem thats making me consider a nokia

Posted by killsta
Quote:

On 2006-11-08 17:32:47, mwarner wrote:
I have just tried to reproduce the "Delete from list" bug mentuioned above on R1ED, but could not do so.

I set an event in the calendar to go off 1 minute in the future with a reminder set. Selecting More / Delete from list deleted the reminder from the list as expected.

If you know of a way to reproduce the bug, please PM me.




Does it for me too on R1ED - created a task with a reminder 1 min in the future. Reminder goes off, selected "delete from list" but the task is still in the task list...

To be honest I didn't know it was a bug till it was mentioned on here..

[ This Message was edited by: killsta on 2006-11-08 21:04 ]

[ This Message was edited by: killsta on 2006-11-08 21:04 ]

Posted by mwarner
@Red_Rach
>its the bugs and the joystick problem thats making me consider a nokia

The bugs present on the K800 are all very minor and I don't think the K800 has a joystick problem anywhere near the magnitude of the K750. Which bugs are giving you problems?

@killsta
> Does it for me too on R1ED - created a task with a reminder
> 1 min in the future. Reminder goes off, selected "delete from list"
> but the task is still in the task list...

Bizarre! I have just tried a task reminder, but "delete from list" worked ok for me. I think I may have to add this one to the first post as occuring on some phones only.

EDIT: Added bug to the first post

Mike

[ This Message was edited by: mwarner on 2006-11-09 09:20 ]

Posted by Red_Rach
@ mwarner

Its the Joystick thats causing me the most problems. I have to blow in it most times I want to use it for it to work which really isnt acceptable so its made me think I'd perhaps prefer a phone without a joystick as I had this problem with the W800 as well

Posted by night_66
HI all..

I just bought un unbranded K800i in Sweden and updated to latest firmware .. but i still feel the menus are not stable .. they are not fast enough .. i had a SE K610i .. it was faster ..

Posted by danielbanks
R1G released on Emma 3



[ This Message was edited by: danielbanks on 2006-11-10 12:49 ]

Posted by baste07
is that a new FW?

Posted by senninha
cool! new firmware coming up!

Posted by baste07
when will it come officially come out?

Posted by danielbanks
your guess is as good as mine. Thought I would just share with you all.

Posted by Beltxo
Quote:

On 2006-11-10 16:20:23, danielbanks wrote:
your guess is as good as mine. Thought I would just share with you all.



Have you checked if this new version is available for other models that shares the firmware history, as k610, k618, v630...?



Posted by MrZippy
I have R1EJ001 on my K610 been out for a while now (SEUS for 3-UK).

See firmware overview for the K610 / V630
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=131325

Also see the 1st post in this thread, R1EJ001 was released on 10/10/06 but not on SEUS for the K800.



[ This Message was edited by: MrZippy on 2006-11-10 18:12 ]


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