Posted by leerichards
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R1CB001 & R3A011
Lee
Posted by darrengf
Sorry for the delay.
Currenlty
Voda and O2 can update there phones via the seus.
Some Generics can be done, but this is dependent on the country.
Orange, T-Mob, 3 have still yet to approve..
Regarding the other 2 newfirmwares mentioned. Im still trying to clearly find out what has been done in them, I havnt updated to the new firmware my self and service centers havnt been given the new one just yet.
When i know more i will let people know.
Posted by Mal M
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I got that as well after updating the firmware to R1ED. Looks like a bug to me.
Posted by alanjrobertson
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Cheers
Alan
Posted by chrisnewman
Someone mentioned Timeline view in camera album. This was available in original firmware.............
Posted by chadiwrx
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Yes i can confirm that happens to me aswell after the update to R1ED001 from R1CB001.
Posted by darrengf
There is a know feature regarding the above phone lock code in firmware ** R1ED001 **
Currenlty if you have updated the phone and do have a phone lock code present (you have switched the feature Auto)
When the phone is switched on, once you have entered the pin number the phone lock code flashes. ** You dont need to place any codes into the phone if you havnt swapped sim cards over ** What is happening the phone is checking that the sim card hasnt been swapped over and inserting the code it self. ** The feature is just telling you that the phone lock code feature is swicthed on **
If you dont have a code or dont use this feature then the phone will not show the phone lock menu.
hope this clears it up for you all.
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2006-10-22 17:12 ]
Posted by alanjrobertson
Hi Darren
Yes that pretty much summarises the behaviour I've seen - where did that text come from, is that an excerpt from something that you've posted or was it an earlier post I missed?
@mwarner - could this get added to the bugs list on p.1?
Cheers
Alan
Posted by lukieno1
I've just upgraded my phone to the latest R1ED version......first big improvement is definitely the camera refresh rate and the save time.......next big improvements are the internet key having to be held to connect to WAP...(I was constantly pressing it accidentally) and also the 'Press OK' screens being displayed for longer......
I agree with a lot of the previous posts about the music volume......I use my K800 with a set of W850i headphones and a set of MPS-60 speakers and I know they can both handle a bit more volume......espescially the headphones........Would prefer the mega bass to be included on the k800 instead of having to manually adjust the equalizer......but I suppose ya can't be picky.....
Also I'd like to see somebody develop a java application version of the Track ID software that comes on the new walkman branded handsets......not essential....but would be nice.......also I've sent Opera an e-mail asking if they could put an option on Opera Mini to view the pages landscape similiar to the standard browser......
One of my other main concerns is still if the noice on darker pictures......on pictures with both light and dark areas.....the light parts are crystal clear however the dark parts are very unclear and the handset still has trouble taking quality pictures when you have shaky hands.......dissappointed with some pictures I've taken......
All in all though a great handset and even better now with a firmware upgrade....very pleased....
Posted by farkasg
@darrengf
it seems to me you are an insider.... so I ask you... How is it possible, that SE Service Center 2 days ago updated my phone to R1ED001 but did not my EROM it is still R3A011..
In an earlier post you said, that the erom update is offered to service staff when trying to update firmware.
[ This Message was edited by: farkasg on 2006-10-22 20:22 ]
Posted by zen62619
does anybody know why my picture quality is bad from the above firmware.
you can see the image here
http://zen62619.blogspot.com/
Posted by darrengf
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On 2006-10-22 21:21:35, farkasg wrote:
@darrengf
it seems to me you are an insider.... so I ask you... How is it possible, that SE Service Center 2 days ago updated my phone to R1ED001 but did not my EROM it is still R3A011..
In an earlier post you said, that the erom update is offered to service staff when trying to update firmware.
Can I ask Where you got the update done.
All the UK service centers have to update the EROM before the phone can be updated to the latest software version.
It also Depends on how they update the phone. ** Via which server they connect to **
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2006-10-23 01:47 ]
Posted by troywedi
if anyone could check my sig and let me know, for australia, is my firmware the latest. I tried to update via SE on charge at 100 percent but has always said its the latest. much appreciated guys.
Posted by farkasg
@darrengf
It was in Budapest,Hungary, in a SE shop... The firmware was T_MOB_INT_B R1ED001...
Posted by mephisto2k
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Timeline has always been there...
Posted by leerichards
I've given up waiting and upgraded to R1EG001 using Wotan!
Lee
Posted by daveyj
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Is this also true of updates via SEUS ?
I updated my O2 UK branded K800i to R1ED001 using SEUS, but the EPROM level still reports as R3A011 - or does the EPROM version number not get updated even though the EPROM does ? (Which would make it a bug). Is there any way to check ?
[ This Message was edited by: daveyj on 2006-10-23 18:35 ]
Posted by farkasg
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SEUS currently doesn't support EROM update.....
Posted by mwarner
SEUS cannot currently update the EROM - see the first post.
Posted by daveyj
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Ah, but that's why I asked as
1) Darrrengf says that service centres have to update the EPROM to perform the firmware update - if SEUS can do it without the update then why can't service centres ?
2) He's also said that SEUS needed to be rewritten to be able to update the EPROM so as to be able to update the firmware - if that was/is correct it implies that the EPROM should also be have been upgraded by SEUS as one wasn't possible without the other - see my confusion ?
Perhaps while SEUS isn't updating the EPROM that line should be removed from "improvements" as it doesn't apply to all devices. The same probably applies to the internet button action. Perhaps a seperate section is needed for these 'differences' which are dependant on flash method.
And can someone tell me if the Nokia like menu which pops up on a short push of the power button is new with R1ED001, or has it been there all the time and I have been pushing the power button for too long to see it previously ?
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[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2006-10-23 22:08 ]
Posted by darrengf
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Sorry for the delay.
Im not able to check on how Budapest connect.
Not all SE get the same info round the world. The information is coutry depending.
Sorry I cant be of more help to you.
Posted by zen62619
whats the differences between the
R1EG001 and the R1ED001 firmware
???????????????
Posted by aremaboy
Please all, don't be dizzy with this EROM upgrade. With or without this upgrade, your phone simply works perfectly, right? Why bothers? IMHO, the phones sent to Service Center are mostly troublesome. And the solution is by updating EROM. Remember, it was said that the' inability to power on' is very rare, so not all phones suffer from this phenomenon. So, enjoy the phone!
Posted by aremaboy
Other findings on R1ED001, please others verify:
After updating via SEUS, I don't know if Wotan too, I notice that some mp3 files can't be played anymore. It was revealed by accident when I scrolled through my Music folder. I have these message alerts downloaded from SE Fun&Downloads section of K800i or other type, I forget---Jangler, Alien Noise and Pulse---and now they simply can't be played! Whenever I manually play it, it says : can't play this sound. Other mp3 files--ringtones, songs--can be played perfectly. I don't know why. I have deleted them, and re-installed, but it was no success. As a note, they are just fine when played with WinAmp, on K750i and W800i. On the previous f/w they are played perfectly..
Anyway, as I'm on Opera Mini, I can't provide a direct link to get the files I mean. But the two of the files are under Message Alerts on:
http://wap.sonyericsson.com/fun/mxhtml/changedevice?cc=GLOBAL&dn=K800i&lc=en
Alien Noise and Jangler are located on page 2 of Message Alerts section. By PC, get .dd file, open with NotePad to get the true link. Via phone browser, just download it. As a note K610 user with this R1ED platform can't play the files either.
EDIT: Pulse can be found under M600i Message Alert section:
http://wap.sonyericsson.com/fun/mxhtml/changedevice?cc=GLOBAL&dn=M600i&lc=en
I just remembered of which phone Pulse officially belongs to just now.
[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2006-10-24 22:08 ]
Posted by sapporobaby
Why the constant, and constant is appropriate, complaining and worrying, and in some cases whining about the EROM? If you update your phone and it works then guess what, EROM update is not needed. I have yet to update mine (updated to R1J via Wotan and then back to R1E via SEUS) with the same EROM, and my phone works just fine. It seems that some people need something to worry about to be happy. If the phone does not work then take it to SE, if it does, then why bother.
As for Darren, he is doing a service by providing info on the side. His word is not gospel and he should not be held to task for anything he says as he is doing his best to help.
Some people here are less than grateful.
Posted by farkasg
I worry because the EROM update is for to avoid issues when phone won't start... And i don't want to wake up one day that my phone is dead...
I tend to avoid troubles..
Posted by sapporobaby
Has your phone crashed once or not started because of this?
Second, if it does not start, SE will fix it. End of problems. Some people in this thread look for problems and reasons to complain (not saying you).
Posted by farkasg
I am very happy with my phone and my EROM too, I was only curious why SESC in Hungary doesn't do the EROM update... as in my first post in this issue said probably the EROM update isn't necessary at all, this is because SE released the SEUS version finally... Just a theory again.. I like to look behind things...
BTW: R1ED001 improvements with the camera speed is great! Good job SE!
[ This Message was edited by: farkasg on 2006-10-24 07:36 ]
Posted by sapporobaby
Agreed,
However the EROM issue is being over blown. It just gives some people, not all, something to obsess over. As I said, my EROM is still the same and I have upgraded my phone 3 times. No problems at all. It starts up, shuts down, and continues on like normal.
Posted by chadiwrx
@aremaboy Yes i have the same issue with the two alert tones mentioned. They used to play on the previous firmware (R1CB001) but not playing on this firmware (R1ED001). That is a very strange one.
Posted by aremaboy
Aha, it's so bizarre that these three alert tones are not playable anymore in R1ED001. Can anyone with capability in music/mp3 analyse them, say, the bitrate, the duration, etc. I suspect such a bitrate or compression is 'troublesome' in R1ED001. Please. It's really strange.
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Please explain if this is really important or just the product of bug hunting? How are these bugs found? By accident, or after hours and hours, and hours of searching through every menu and function on the phone. I think that we are really going over the top now with this.
Posted by aremaboy
As I said before, it's found by accident. Believe me, sapporobaby, I'm not a bug hunter. I always said 'my findings'-because I found it after my normal use of the phone. My curiosity is triggered by the fact that they are playable in my previous f/w. Am I wrong to scroll around my Music folder just to play my mp3 files and by accident found this bizarre thing? Am I wrong to ask the expert why?
Posted by Brady
Has anyone noticed that after the update via SEUS (R1ED O2 branded) that the volume of the tone you've set for the alarm is a lot lower than in R1CB? I struggle to wake when it goes off now where as before it would wake me straight away.
Posted by darrengf
@sapporobaby
Thanks.
Guys The Information i know and find out from my sources is always given to you people. I do get sony service bulitins and have passed all the info on here to people. However the info is only relevant to the UK. However the EROM is worldwide ava, Why other areas havnt been given it i dont know and prob never will do.
sapporobaby is correct. If you havnt had any problems with the phone white screening in the old EROM, then chances are you will never have a fault.
** Guys and Gals, SE do read this thread ** However fixes will not come instant, First of all SE have to take the findings away and check it out. If its nothing major then it wont be a major priorty.
If you have any other probs or questions you are more than welcome to pm me. Bear in mind that I also have a day job too
Thanks
Posted by sapporobaby
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Hey Aremaboy,
Where have you been anyway? Have not seen you around for a while. Anyway, I know you are not a bug hunter but an avid user. There is a difference and I can appreciate your exuberence. As I said before, maybe you and mwarner should collaborate on an additional thread linked to this that points out new or unusual finds. By linking them, people can have a sort of new and improved verses the old.
Posted by mephisto2k
Just noticed a couple of bugs still present with R1D:
The predefined MMS template "I love you", comes back with "some items could not be added" when clicked on.
Cell Information (area code) doesn't show on screen when turned on
Both these may be specific to Vodafone UK firmware, anyone confirm?
Posted by daveyj
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It does, thanks.
I still think the first post needs updating to remove the 'updated EPROM' form it's 'Improvements' section as the EPROM only updates via a Wotan/Service Centre update so we don't all get it.
Posted by farkasg
I've just noticed that you can set up Opera Mini as wallpaper.
Anyway it is useless...
(I know that is possible in R1ED001, but strange that Opera Mini is coded that way...)
Posted by farkasg
"Bookmarks listed directly in the Internet section of the task menu rather than in a Bookmarks submenu"
I do not understand this... In R1ED001 and R1CB001 the bookmarks in the bookmarks submenu first, but after the first use it is under the Internet section directly. It was the same in every version, it is not a new improvement...
Posted by aremaboy
@sapporobaby:
Well, I haven't been anywhere lately actually..just being a good observer..yeach, because no new findings to be reported.
Collaborating with mwarner? Well, I do appreciate it, but I know who I am. I'm just a humble user of K800i. My knowledge isn't that much..I prefer to be the ordinary 'aremaboy'. If I find new findings, I report and share. If I don't understand,I'll ask..just that.
Posted by MrZippy
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On R1CD001 on the K610 bookmarks were always via the Bookmarks submenu on the activity menu, now they appear directly on the top level of this menu.
Posted by maldus
hey
i don know if this has been mentioned anywhere in this thread
if it has been please excuse the repost if not then im sure it might be handy
the two navigation buttons(used for viewing pictures in standby) above the screen next to the earphone can be used to scroll up and down in the file manager (only)
in the pictures folder if u have thumbnails one button takes u directly to the last picture while the other to takes u to the first pic from anywhere in the folder.
same for videos folder.
in the themes, games and application folder it can be used to scroll up n down
do try it out
[ This Message was edited by: maldus on 2006-10-24 14:27 ]
Posted by troywedi
I tried to update my curent firmware using SE update...
- it downloaded (serviceclient_USDoe1_2006-10-24_19.53.37.cry")
- it updated
- i restarted but no change from my sig.
It said it was classed as Europe 2.
Shouldnt the latest for AU be R1EG001? Or have I got this wrong.
any info appreciated guys, cheers.
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yeah this is also the case for me.. didn't notice that before.. but if you look in the bookmarks submenu do you also find your bookmarks there?
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yes their are also there
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Hi aremaboy,
There seems to be a slight encoding error in those two files,
on a pc you are correct most media programs handle them ok but even dBpowerAMP doesn't like them when trying to convert!
As soon as they are re-encoded with the same settings as they were originally encoded with they work fine on the k800i with the R1ED001 firmware.
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I wonder if they have updated the codecs on the new firmware and the decoder error tolerance level is different so is tripping up on these files
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Posted by pmk
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nobody ?
Posted by aremaboy
Thank you, dcuk. That's a great technical explanation. So, it's a matter of encoding. At least we know that this is repairable. Anyone else with more explanation, please?