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Posted by capuera
@mwarner

Probably the second bug about the size of applications is CDA dependant. I use R1ED001 CDA 102568/4 R4A and I have all the informations about the file size of applications. For example for Opera Mini it shows 275 Kb. So I don't have that bug. Change the information on the first page please!

Thanks!


Posted by fleek
New bug detected in firmware R1ED001.

The phone will ocassionally display wrong message in the popup notification.



Posted by pinkboy
I've read the last 70 pages of this thread *whew!!* and have decided to update and unbrand via WOTAN. I'm just trying to decide which firmware to go with. The latest one R1EJ001 doesn't have the UK/Europe as a CDA option in the WOTAN client, but the previous version R1EG001 does.

I've read in the last couple pages that the new update (R1EJ001) improves a few things - i'm especially interested in any improvement in camera quality - but is it important if there is no support/mention for the UK/Europe in CDA? Or doesn't it matter?

Also, am i right in saying that from now on i can update through SEUS and not WOTAN client? Am i being stupid? (Am i asking too many questions? ) lol.

Cheers in advance.

Posted by feelisme
Quote:

On 2006-10-13 08:44:39, altemyr wrote:
As far as I can remember, MegaBass was introduced by Sony in their Walkman's while they still used to play C-60 compact cassettes. In those, there was no firmware at all. Instead, Megabass was a special electronic circuit design, mainly consisting of a large capacitor holding the extra charge needed to boost the bass beats and increase the voltage over the output transistors in the amplifier. Maybe, the K800 is built on a platform that actually has this circuit design onboard, to be used in a possible future -equivalent of the K800i, but that is disabled by the current K800 firmware. In that case, it might be possible to enable Megabass by firmware, like converting a K750 to a W800 by firmware change, but I don't think that this is a method that ever wil lbe supported by . They would probably want you to buy the model instead.



thanks for the info. By the way, there is no need converting a K750 to a W800 by firmware. The original K750i firmware from SEUS is come with Megabass. Since K800i is consider an upgrade from K750, it should remain it. Just hope the next K800 firmware will include Megabass.

Posted by ghostfreak
I don't think it will incude MB, as it's a Walkman feature and not a Cyber-Shot...but you never know

Posted by farkasg
I've found a bug in R1CB001. Please somebody verify! Is it corrected?

If I put this phone number (309555...) in the contact list, not in the SIM but the phone memory, the Name of the contact is not displayed in the call List and when Incoming calls or SMS.. just like if it was a new number...

If I change the "30" in the beginning of the number to any other number (eg 20) it works perfectly....

The problem persists if I store the number in the format +3630309555...
+36 is the country code, the first 30 is the area code...

My area (operator) code is 30... I think this is the cause....

If it works for you please try with a number what starts with your area code!

It is very annoying because i don't know the caller only from his number..

Thanks

Edit:
Strange... If I copy the contact to the SIM it works!


[ This Message was edited by: farkasg on 2006-10-13 11:03 ]

[ This Message was edited by: farkasg on 2006-10-13 13:16 ]

Posted by sjgore
Long-time listener, first time caller, as they say...

Firmware R1EG001 (UK):

BUG: The phone keeps forgetting the shortcut for pushing the joystick to the right. Despite assigning it numerous times, after a short while the phone forgets it. This bug has been present for several firmwares now.

But I'm very impressed with R1EG001 overall! Lots of nice changes and bug-fixes.

Steve.

[ This Message was edited by: sjgore on 2006-10-13 13:19 ]

Posted by maldus
hi
I upgraded my erom thru wotan to R3A016
Updated to R1ED001 thru wotan
the phone switches off every time i put an alarm.
for example i keep an alarm wil sleepin every morn the alarm doesn go off but the phone is also switched off...
Upgraded to R1EG001 using SEUS still have the same prob...
well im glad that the phones primary functions are perfect but still i felt the alarm is quite handy at times so any suggestions anyboody?

Posted by pinkboy
Ok, as no-one is online or can give me any advice, i decided to go for R1EJ001, but was almost through the first time when i was disconnected from the server for some reason. I tried again, but now all i'm getting is 'can't reach server'. My internect connection is fine (everything else is working fine) so i know it's not that.

My phone is a brick at the moment, and i'm losing my internet connection tonight - i need to get this sorted out.

Any advice?

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edit - all sorted now. there was a problem with the server, that all.

R1EJ001 is great, but my animated themes seem to be running quite slow.....

[ This Message was edited by: pinkboy on 2006-10-13 16:02 ]

Posted by vanity
Hello..
just wondering if there is another way on how to update fone..
without connecting to SEUS / or wotan.

can i just have the software downloaded and or any other application?

OTA doesnt work for me..

thanks..

need to do this cause i cant update my fone on an internet cafe.. need to get the files instead..


Posted by dawvon
farkasg:
I have the exact same problem too, though the phone number is different. The bug has been fixed by updating the firmware and erom

Posted by Pebb
Quote:

On 2006-10-13 14:17:27, sjgore wrote:
Long-time listener, first time caller, as they say...

Firmware R1EG001 (UK):

BUG: The phone keeps forgetting the shortcut for pushing the joystick to the right. Despite assigning it numerous times, after a short while the phone forgets it. This bug has been present for several firmwares now.

But I'm very impressed with R1EG001 overall! Lots of nice changes and bug-fixes.

Steve.

[ This Message was edited by: sjgore on 2006-10-13 13:19 ]



What nice changes have your spotted ?

Posted by altemyr
@feelisme: There are lots of other reasons though: flight mode, better mp3 player, etc

This message was posted from a K800i

Posted by aremaboy
@maldus:
Did you update yours to R1EG001 by using SEUS? We're talking about K800. Are you sure with what you said? What's your phone? K790 or K800?

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2006-10-13 16:35 ]

Posted by sjgore
Quote:
What nice changes have your spotted ?



I haven't 'spotted' any myself, but I was referring to the list on the first page of this thread. The battery indicator on the file transfer screen is one of the most useful improvements, IMHO.

Posted by radiomanic
I must admit I've never seen a K800i produce a picture like that before. If every picture comes out like that regardless of how dark or bright it is around you then I would suggest the camera software is playing up.

Try doing a master reset, it can solve quite a lot of software problems (if they aren't too serious of course). Did you use SEUS to update the phone?

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I did the firmware update again and now it works again. Very strange..

[ This Message was edited by: radiomanic on 2006-10-13 17:30 ]

Posted by yangximusic
i cant access my games and applications folder (both on my fon and memory stick!). it said "Operation Failed"

HELP!


version = R1ED001 (hongkong)

Posted by Rampe
Quote:

On 2006-10-13 18:29:34, radiomanic wrote:
I did the firmware update again and now it works again. Very strange..



Those pictures were quite terrible. I'm glad you got it fixed, since the quality of the camera is one of the most (if not THE most) revolutional feature of this phone.
Prolly one bit escaped during the update process and caused some sort of corruption

Posted by shanespencer
Here's a pic taken with the new firmware (R1EJ001):



As you can see, there seems to be less compression used now. Before, the pictures seemed too 'smooth' to me.

Posted by DragonEye
BUg that still exists..

number shortcut search does not work in file manager

for example 3 = pictures. but no matter what you press it always goes to the last item "other"



Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-13 22:48:12, DragonEye wrote:
BUg that still exists..

number shortcut search does not work in file manager

for example 3 = pictures. but no matter what you press it always goes to the last item "other"





Just a question. Are you sure this is a bug? Did it perform as such with previous software implementations?

Posted by mwarner
> Did it perform as such with previous software implementations?

Yes, this has always been the case.

When a bug gets fixed from a previous firmware I put it in the 'bug fixes' section. If it's not in there wither it hasn't been fixed or no-one has tested for a fix yet.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-13 23:04:42, mwarner wrote:
> Did it perform as such with previous software implementations?

Yes, this has always been the case.

When a bug gets fixed from a previous firmware I put it in the 'bug fixes' section. If it's not in there wither it hasn't been fixed or no-one has tested for a fix yet.



Ah, okay. I had never noticed this particular function. Well, let's hope it gets fixed then.

Posted by PJMax15
Quote:

On 2006-10-13 10:24:05, negrescumari wrote:
@mwarner

Probably the second bug about the size of applications is CDA dependant. I use R1ED001 CDA 102568/4 R4A and I have all the informations about the file size of applications. For example for Opera Mini it shows 275 Kb. So I don't have that bug. Change the information on the first page please!

Thanks!



I think you misunderstand the bug that is being pointed out. I can still get the information for individual applications or games, but the actual folders where the files are located come up as 0 files 0B.

Posted by maldus
yeah i updated to R1EG001 using SEUS
im talkin about the K790i

Posted by Oogamous
Hello. Just would like to mention that i have updated my K790 to the new firmware R1EG001 today morning via FOTA... Have checked and confirmed the improvements/ bug fixes as mentioned on page 1... I live in India and have updated successfully...
The firmware download size was 3432 kb which took about 10 minutes and a further 10 minutes for the update to be complete. Cheers.
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Posted by aremaboy
Just wondering for those updating via FOTA--and you're successful with that---what does FOTA say if you try FOTA once again? Does it offer you to 'continue anyway' just like SEUS does? I've never managed to update via FOTA because it always says mine is the latest f/w whichever f/w I have. Do you think it's offered only in some regions and why?

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2006-10-14 09:37 ]

Posted by jasond
I'm relieved to see that compression (or anti-noise) has been toned down in the new firmware. I'm sure it helps to reduce noise significantly, but was concerned that in some lighting levels it became a bit too invasive.

Posted by Oogamous
@ aremaboy:

After Updating firmware, on trying to update again it just says "Your phone already has the latest software".. There is no option to continue anyway.. just like before..

Also I have noticed another new thing...don't know if it's mentioned- On connecting to GPRS, earlier the Small Globe that appeared used to rotate to indicate an active connection...
With the new firmware - The Globe doesn't rotate... It Blinks and becomes lighter and darker, which indicates an active connection...

Nothing major though... but a definite change from the old firmware...



Posted by radiomanic
Quote:

On 2006-10-13 20:09:19, yangximusic wrote:
i cant access my games and applications folder (both on my fon and memory stick!). it said "Operation Failed"

HELP!


version = R1ED001 (hongkong)



You are not the only one. I have a game that restarts the phone when I launch it. And all of the other games I have also says "Operation Failed"

F****** crap.. Argh!

Posted by farkasg
In R1CB001:

in the Internet section of the task menu there is an option Search Internet. If i choose it I can type in and when I click search the phone goes online an the browser show a page of an Apache Tomcat error page with Internal Server Error!

If I am already online in the browser there is a search option in the Go to menu which is works correctly.

So I think in the first method there is a bad link in the phone for that option...

Is it corrected in the new firmware?

Thanks

[ This Message was edited by: farkasg on 2006-10-14 10:55 ]

Posted by ghostfreak
Works fine for me on R1ED001

Are your internet settings correctly set up?

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Posted by farkasg
Is there any special option for the search?

I think the settings are correct because the browser works fine.....



Posted by farkasg
Thanks You give me a clue!

I've got T-Mobile webnwalk subscription and if I change my profile to standard WAP it works perfectly!

Sorry for false alarm

Posted by ghostfreak
Glad you got it working

Posted by gseth
I solved that problem. Only way i could find is to update the firmware via wotan to the original R1C (k790) R1B(k800) firmware without updating the EROM.

After that i update my k790 to latest firmware via seus.

Before all this i tried to master reset. Nothin happens, it still shows that error.

Quote:

On 2006-10-14 11:43:55, radiomanic wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-10-13 20:09:19, yangximusic wrote:
i cant access my games and applications folder (both on my fon and memory stick!). it said "Operation Failed"

HELP!


version = R1ED001 (hongkong)



You are not the only one. I have a game that restarts the phone when I launch it. And all of the other games I have also says "Operation Failed"

F****** crap.. Argh!



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Posted by sNiCKeRZ
There is one thing i noticed after updating. Don't know if it was like that before though.

When you're writing a sms and push more / add element / animation you can see all those little animated things

but what i can also see there is folders that i added under -> File Explorer -> Pictures.

Could anybody plz be so kind and check that thing at his phone?
even if it is faulty at my phone, it'd be a small issue, but i hate such small issues -_-

thx in advance

oh and btw, there is one more difference in updating via SEUS or WOTAN that i noticed.
if you update via SEUS you still have those blue cows as sms animations. If you update via WOTAN you get colored icons that rather look like the ones the k750i had.

[ This Message was edited by: sNiCKeRZ on 2006-10-14 11:54 ]

Posted by mp3wiz
Can someone please tell me if R1ED001 is availabe in the UK on an O2 handset. won't let me update for some reason

Posted by ghostfreak
Are you trying to update via FOTA or SEUS?

Posted by SE Rules
Is the new update available on O2UK?

Cheers guys n girls

Posted by GavinAshford
no. the first page will be updated almost as soon as any uk firmwares are available.

we're awaiting the generic firmware even before the branded firmwares become available.

Posted by o166
updated to R1ED001, but have a problem, all except the English language have gone, anyone knows why?

Posted by baste07
did you update via wotan? which cda did you chose?

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-14 16:56:24, baste07 wrote:
did you update via wotan? which cda did you chose?



Of course he had to upgrade with a non-SEUS service but the bigger question is: are there single language pack CDA's out there and why? I do not think single CDA's even exist. I could be incorrect though.

Posted by baste07
haha sarpy baby there you go again being an arse... so why coudn't he have updated to r1ed via seus?

obviously you're here to make an ass of your self by trying to be your antaganastic ms little self again... if you want to answer the question then quote him/her post. =)

not quoting another trying to make your self the all knowing dudette again..

peace sis

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-14 17:35:55, baste07 wrote:
haha sarpy baby there you go again being an arse... so why coudn't he have updated to r1ed via seus?

obviously you're here to make an ass of your self by trying to be your antaganastic ms little self again... if you want to answer the question then quote him/her post. =)

not quoting another trying to make your self the all knowing dudette again..

peace sis



Hey Bat-shi...,

It is obvious you do not know what you are talking about as usual. You constantly show you have no need for a sophisticated phone let alone the smarts to even be in this forum.

My question was an honest question right on the mark because we ALL know (except you it seems) that the SEUS does not change languages or change CDA's. It reads them and then assigns an update accordingly. So your question about which CDA did he chose was answered by yourself when you assumed he used Wotan. My question was long the lines that he must have chosen the incorrect CDA being that SEUS does not give you the option to choose.

Yes, once again, you show how little you know about most things. Please stop before you hurt yourself. If you have anything else to say, take to PM.

Posted by Rampe
I know couple of cases, when updating via SEUS is "removing" other languges than english. The Phone Language setting gives options "From SIM" and "English" (and both show english), eventho the phone was originally another language. Even master reset wasn't helping.

Posted by sNiCKeRZ
He updated via SEUS for sure.
This "bug" is well known by now. It happened before to a lot of K750i users and it will probably happen again.
The English language file seems to be on the phone, no matter what software you use. Somehow it seems to be a "backup language", so that even if everything having to do with language files fails, you still can use the phone.
The only thing that might help is to do a master reset and then redo the SEUS update, at least as far as i know.
It might even be that you have to do this 10+ times...
Last time it happened to me i had to reset and update (SEUS) it 8 times until i had my original languages back.
But you should know that some of the preinstalled items will be lost after a master reset, some will remain...

Don't ask me WHY this happens from time to time when updating via SEUS. I absolutely don't know. I just know that it happens for sure.

BTW: There is no way he could have flashed his phone via WOTAN or davinci without getting an error and ended up with only english language.
Unless there was an error during the flashing process.

Posted by mwarner
Added a K790 section to the first post. Thanks to gseth for providing the data.

Posted by o166
Quote:

On 2006-10-14 16:56:24, baste07 wrote:
did you update via wotan? which cda did you chose?



i used SEUS


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