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Posted by baste07
has anyone actualy upgraded to the new r1ej fw?


Posted by xcuseme
Hi all
I have one very annoying problem with my k800, that appeared before updating and keeps after. The phone works well for 2-3 weeks or something and after a while it stops displaying the missed/dialled/answered calls :? After master reset the problem disappears but its very annoying. Can someone tell me if he has the same problem and if there is a sollution except master reseting the device???
Thanks to all

[ This Message was edited by: xcuseme on 2006-10-11 17:56 ]

Posted by DCUK7
Can I just mention a point on this one:

"You must now press the Internet key for a couple of seconds to bring up the browser. This is to prevent accidental connection to the Internet. "

I have R1ED and I can just press my button to bring up the browser. I flashed with EU_2 firmware.

Posted by killsta
Same here.

Posted by aremaboy
I DO have the delay, I'm on APAC. Just did a keyboard test and mine is just normal. Region-specific?
Or is it because of from where you flashed the phone? I used SEUS. Some people I knew reporting that NO delay with the internet button is those who flashed the phone by WotanServer, like our fellow baste07. On the other hand, another Esato fellow named altemyr has this delay as he used FOTA, meaning other version of SEUS. His confirmation made me sure about it and I PMed mwarner about it. Is it true?
As a note, in other thread, a K610 user of French operator, who also used SEUS, reported there IS a delay in the internet browser too. It means that this feature is somehow 'intended'. Can others confirm it? As I said before, does the source -Wotan or SEUS-affect such a thing? Remember, Wotan's f/w has different EROM from SEUS'. Both work well, right? Who knows the 'inside' is somehow 'specific' as Wotan uses different file extension (.wtm). Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway, this DELAY idea is more a bless than a curse for me. Once again, I'm 100% certain that mine is NOT faulty.

[ This Message was edited by: aremaboy on 2006-10-11 22:05 ]

Posted by killsta
I used Wotan to flash mine yesterday as I wanted the EROM too.

Posted by DCUK7
Ok, I used Wotan to flash to R1ED and I've used Wotan again to flash to R1EG and the internet button has no delay. Maybe it is something to do with the source. It could even be the customize.xml has the option to set a delay on the internet button and SEUS or Wotan make a change to it.

Pity FAR manager doesn't work with the K800, we'd know for sure then!

Haven't noticed much difference at all with R1EG at the moment.

[ This Message was edited by: ~DC:UK~ on 2006-10-11 22:05 ]

Posted by jungleandy4
I updated to the G firmware on wotan server,i have only one complaint,when playing a video ,and believe me the quality has improved immensley,a line flashes along the screen at the end of the video,has anyone else noticed this.

Posted by dmatthew
there is a delay for me when pressing the internet button. happy to say that the contact list problem has been fixed for me as well



Posted by DCUK7
I don't see anything when a video finishes. It maybe down to whatever you used to convert the video. I've tried 3GP and MP4 (used M3 to convert to MP4) and I don't see anything.

I reckon there is a slight menu speed increase in this firmware. When flicking between icons on the main menu it seems slightly faster or smoother.

Posted by alanjrobertson
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 23:05:50, dmatthew wrote:
there is a delay for me when pressing the internet button. happy to say that the contact list problem has been fixed for me as well

By any chance could the contact list problem be the one where contacts that have no first or last name but instead have a company name are all listed at the start of the address book as 'No Name'? I'd mentioned this bug a few times before but didn't hold out much hope of it being fixed - would be great if it now has been!

Cheers

Alan

Posted by aremaboy
Aha, it sorted out finally. Wotan and SEUS have 'different' stuffs inside. Remember also, Wotan is able to change CDA, debrand and select which f/w you like to install. Such a delay or non delay is too easy to do. This is normal and no worries about it. Whether SEUS or Wotan's F/W installed in your K800i, they work like a charm!

Posted by jungleandy4
There is a thick black line on video playback,its on the pre loaded fly away video,and also when i take a video,however when sent to a friends w800i it plays perfectly

Posted by jungleandy4
ah its only there on vertical play,if its in landscape mode its fine

Posted by br.
Canīt deownload the new firmware to my k800. Others have problems too ?

Posted by DCUK7
Yes, now I see it. Big black line flashes on the screen just as the video finishes. Yet another bug to add to the list! Nice to see Sony Ericsson's QA dept are still totally inept!

Posted by jungleandy4
Thanks for that,i thought my phone was bust

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 21:52:53, ~DC:UK~ wrote:
Can I just mention a point on this one:

"You must now press the Internet key for a couple of seconds to bring up the browser. This is to prevent accidental connection to the Internet. "

I have R1ED and I can just press my button to bring up the browser. I flashed with EU_2 firmware.



This is mentioned on the first page. Doesn't anyone bother to read these posts? Maybe its time to lock this thread.

Posted by DCUK7
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 00:29:40, sapporobaby wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 21:52:53, ~DC:UK~ wrote:
Can I just mention a point on this one:

"You must now press the Internet key for a couple of seconds to bring up the browser. This is to prevent accidental connection to the Internet. "

I have R1ED and I can just press my button to bring up the browser. I flashed with EU_2 firmware.



This is mentioned on the first page. Doesn't anyone bother to read these posts? Maybe its time to lock this thread.




Where does it say on that page that SEUS and Wotan offer firmwares with the difference of the internet key? The reason I (and others) post this is to find out why some people have a certain functionality and others don't and I believe we found the reason. I also meant to mention R1EG in that post, I certainly know that isn't on the first page!!!

Why don't you just stop posting in this thread. Your constant 'spamming' of it with posts like this is becoming very tiresome indeed. There is no doubt you have posted more than many in this thread but how much of that relates to the actual firmware, not much would be my estimation!

If you can't be pleasant, don't post. I remember a thread you posted in a couple of weeks ago. Someone was looking for free M600 games and your simple, yet rude reply was to "get their credit card out and stop being cheap"! Very helpful. Pity he wasn't old enough to own a credit card, but even if he did, what is wrong with wanting free games for your phone? Why, instead of mouthing off, couldn't you either say you didn't know of any or point him in the direction of some? And don't get me started on that O2 GPRS settings thread!

Anyway. keep up the good work, if nothing else you'll have a higher post count than most!

Posted by jj03
Maybe its time to lock this thread


No. because somebody will start another k800/k790 firmware thread elsewhere...and that is pointless.

Posted by aremaboy
Does this black line flash appear when you play the videos in file manager or even in video player? In R1ED001 I have noticed it already, yet nobody confirmed at that time. It's noticeable when you do it in File Manager. I think it is how the system 'refreshes' itself after loading 'big' file. What do you think?

Posted by baste07
is it worth it to upgrade from R1ED to R1EJ?

Posted by Psycho Dave
Quote:
On 2006-10-12 01:35:13, ~DC:UK~ wrote:
I also meant to mention R1EG in that post, I certainly know that isn't on the first page!!!


Hehehe, not to be rude but it is on the first page and has been there since at least 2006-10-10 22:52 and that is before your message.

Posted by baste07
Any new updates on d new f/w's

This message was posted from a K800i

Posted by redsheep
my phone cant connect to wotanclient... i used to debrand to them before and it goes smooth. but now i want to upgrade firmware but they cant recognized my k800i.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 02:13:21, Psycho Dave wrote:
Quote:
On 2006-10-12 01:35:13, ~DC:UK~ wrote:
I also meant to mention R1EG in that post, I certainly know that isn't on the first page!!!


Hehehe, not to be rude but it is on the first page and has been there since at least 2006-10-10 22:52 and that is before your message.



Game, set, and match.


Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 06:36:56, redsheep wrote:
my phone cant connect to wotanclient... i used to debrand to them before and it goes smooth. but now i want to upgrade firmware but they cant recognized my k800i.



Check and make sure that you have the latest client. Also, make sure the drivers are installed correctly. I had a problem with Windows where for some reason it would lose the USB information of my ISDN card, and the card would not work. To fix this, I would go into device manager, delete the USB hub, restart, let Windows find it and install it again, and then I would install the drivers again, and things would work fine. Needless to say I now use a Mac.

Posted by sapporobaby
Can anyone confirm the functionality of the recently released: R2FD001?

Posted by redsheep
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 07:19:45, sapporobaby wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 06:36:56, redsheep wrote:
my phone cant connect to wotanclient... i used to debrand to them before and it goes smooth. but now i want to upgrade firmware but they cant recognized my k800i.



Check and make sure that you have the latest client. Also, make sure the drivers are installed correctly. I had a problem with Windows where for some reason it would lose the USB information of my ISDN card, and the card would not work. To fix this, I would go into device manager, delete the USB hub, restart, let Windows find it and install it again, and then I would install the drivers again, and things would work fine. Needless to say I now use a Mac.




my connection is good., i even reinstall all the driver. i even master reset my phone still nothing happened.

Posted by altemyr
I have found some more new features with R1ED001:

  1. If you select a program or a game in the programs or games folder, and press the More button (=right softkey), there is a new command: Move to Phone or Move to M.S (either one, depending on wether the game or program already is on the memory stick or not)

  2. I don't remember if it was like this before, but if you have tour earplug in your ear, and then connect them to the phone, you will hear a very spacy sound, confirming that the earphone is connected.


Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 08:32:06, altemyr wrote:
I have found some more new features with R1ED001:
[list=1]
[*]If you select a program or a game in the programs or games folder, and press the More button (=right softkey), there is a new command: Move to Phone or Move to M.S (either one, depending on wether the game or program already is on the memory stick or not)

Was there already. Not new.





Posted by sPank
in case anyone is interested, just tried to update via SEUS and got the "Latest version" message. I'm using:

K800i - R1CB001
on 3 - Australia
and I'm not sure it matters, but the EROM I have is: R3A011

So I'ma still awaiting. Either way I'm happy for the moment, just got all my bluetooth stuff working. Lovin it! FYI Toshiba Bluetooth stack sucks the wang.

Posted by Rampe
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 07:09:32, sapporobaby wrote:
Game, set, and match.



Now that was useful! This is just the quality of replies we've all learned to expect from you.

Quote:

On 2006-10-12 00:29:40, sapporobaby wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 21:52:53, ~DC:UK~ wrote:
Can I just mention a point on this one:

"You must now press the Internet key for a couple of seconds to bring up the browser. This is to prevent accidental connection to the Internet. "

I have R1ED and I can just press my button to bring up the browser. I flashed with EU_2 firmware.



This is mentioned on the first page. Doesn't anyone bother to read these posts? Maybe its time to lock this thread.




When did YOU last check the first page? Since it definitely does not mention the differences in the delay, between WOTAN ja SEUS firmwares.

Posted by sapporobaby
@rampe

Quote from first page:
Quote:
- You must now press the Internet key for a couple of seconds to bring up the browser. This is to prevent accidental connection to the Internet.



This was originally posted by Aremeboy two or three days ago and aggregated by mwarner.

Yes, I know, you stand corrected.

As for knowing what to expect from me, prove me wrong then. If not then you know what you can do.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 08:47:54, sPank wrote:
in case anyone is interested, just tried to update via SEUS and got the "Latest version" message. I'm using:

K800i - R1CB001
on 3 - Australia
and I'm not sure it matters, but the EROM I have is: R3A011

So I'ma still awaiting. Either way I'm happy for the moment, just got all my bluetooth stuff working. Lovin it! FYI Toshiba Bluetooth stack sucks the wang.



Can you try the OTA upgrade? It seems that there is a problem, as my co-worker is trying to upgrade. He gets a connection to the server but then gets a network error.

Posted by capuera
A little change

The battery indicator has changed a little. When it's almost empty the last line it is not black like in R1CB, but intense RED.

And a big change for me

Until i updated to R1ED if the battery was empty and the phone switched itself off I never could turn it on again. Now I can and the problem with WSOD is gone.

Posted by Rampe
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 09:06:29, sapporobaby wrote:
Quote from first page:
Quote:
- You must now press the Internet key for a couple of seconds to bring up the browser. This is to prevent accidental connection to the Internet.



This was originally posted by Aremeboy two or three days ago and aggregated by mwarner.



Yes, we've been quoting that entry the whole time. The thing is, we are talking about the differences between WOTAn and SEUS fw's. SEUS has the 2 second delay, and now it seems that the firmware updated from WOTAn doesn't have the delay. See?


Quote:

Yes, I know, you stand corrected.



Come on.

Quote:

As for knowing what to expect from me, prove me wrong then. If not then you know what you can do.



"Game, set and match".

[ This Message was edited by: Rampe on 2006-10-12 08:51 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
@Rampe

As has been stated before, and confirmed by SE, the f/w on SEUS and Wotan are the same. However, Wotan has the ability to alter some of the phones functionality. It is not the f/w. If there is new operation functionality, it is most likely a product of something Wotan has done to the phone rather than a software implementation.

Check and mate.

Posted by mwarner
Noted that the delay is only on SEUS updated phones in the first post.

@jungleandy4 & ~DC:UK~
I am not entirely sure what firmware I would put the 'black line' bug down for. It seems JA4 has R1EG001, but I am not sure if this appears in earlier firmwares - what firmware did you have previously? What do you have Dave?

"Thick black line flashes on screen at the end of video playback when playing video in Vertical mode"

Mike

Posted by DCUK7
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 07:09:32, sapporobaby wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 02:13:21, Psycho Dave wrote:
Quote:
On 2006-10-12 01:35:13, ~DC:UK~ wrote:
I also meant to mention R1EG in that post, I certainly know that isn't on the first page!!!


Hehehe, not to be rude but it is on the first page and has been there since at least 2006-10-10 22:52 and that is before your message.



Game, set, and match.




I meant the internet button explanation you fool, I know the actual firmware is listed, but nothing about the internet button under R1EG.

Since we now know why they are different perhaps it can be added so people know updating via Wotan will not have the 'delayed' internet functionality?

Posted by Rampe
Quote:

As has been stated before, and confirmed by SE, the f/w on SEUS and Wotan are the same. However, Wotan has the ability to alter some of the phones functionality. It is not the f/w. If there is new operation functionality, it is most likely a product of something Wotan has done to the phone rather than a software implementation.



Why didn't you say that in the first place? That's exactly what we wanted to know and were trying to get confirmation for.
Altho, even if it's not _really_ a modified firmware, the line is pretty thin, afterall it's included in the upgrade procedure.
I wonder if there's more adjustements like that?

I stand informed, thank you for that. I still hope, you could "cut the unnecessary crap" and reply when you indeed give something to the discussion, rather than just let everybody know how wrong they are.

[ This Message was edited by: Rampe on 2006-10-12 11:19 ]

[ This Message was edited by: Rampe on 2006-10-12 11:19 ]

Posted by DCUK7
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 10:09:41, mwarner wrote:
Noted that the delay is only on SEUS updated phones in the first post.

@jungleandy4 & ~DC:UK~
I am not entirely sure what firmware I would put the 'black line' bug down for. It seems JA4 has R1EG001, but I am not sure if this appears in earlier firmwares - what firmware did you have previously? What do you have Dave?

"Thick black line flashes on screen at the end of video playback when playing video in Vertical mode"

Mike



I must admit I never noticed it in the previous firmware but I mostlt play videos in the video player in landscape where the black line does not manifest itself.

As for the internet button, I would bet that the delay is set in the customize.xml file. That is really the only thing I imagine Wotan would alter in a firmware package. Of course without actually seeing the K800's version of that file we won't know!

Posted by sapporobaby
@~DC:UK~,

Aremeboy posted a few days ago that under R1EDxxx that the Internet button was different. You obviously did not read this, but posted about it. Who's the fool now? The supposed changes are not f/w related but are a function of the Wotan server application. Can you unlock or debrand with SEUS. If you are not sure how the technology works, I will be more than happy to explain it to you.

Mind the gap and move along please.

Posted by sapporobaby
@~DC:UK~,

Have you considered asking the Wotan guys if they made any special modifications? Survey says: nope. You just speculate and speculate, without gettng the facts. Do you think this is helpful? Maybe, just maybe I decided to do something exotic and new, and ask them about the "Internet" delay and see what they have to say about it. This is what a logical person would do.

Posted by Red_Rach
so R1EG001 is the latest firmware? god I cant keep up, I'm glad I didnt updated to R1ED001 Yesterday morning if thats the case!!!

Posted by mwarner
@~DC:UK~
"I must admit I never noticed it in the previous firmware but I mostly play videos in the video player in landscape where the black line does not manifest itself."

Which firmware revision are you using?

@sapporobaby
You seem to be very antagonistic towards other posters of late. Your technical input is appreciated, but I would also appreciate it if you would be more respectful to other users in this thread.

Posted by sapporobaby
@mwarner, and others

Please forgive and excuse the sometimes "over the top" responses. I will admit that I sometimes get annoyed with repetative or simply incorrect answers. I will try to refrain from letting my attitude shine through, but please people read the thread. Mike has done a great job putting the info out where we can find it, and to create posts where the info has already been posted sort of does a disservice to Mike.

Posted by mp3wiz
SEUS won't let me update my phone, it detects that i've got the latest firmware, which i haven't. im curretly running R1CB001 and want to update to R1ED001

why wont it work guys!? help

Posted by GavinAshford
^^^ point proven i feel sapporobaby

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-12 12:04:30, mp3wiz wrote:
SEUS won't let me update my phone, it detects that i've got the latest firmware, which i haven't. im curretly running R1CB001 and want to update to R1ED001

why wont it work guys!? help



I do not think that there has been any releases for the UK on certain operators. It was mentioned here in the thread but as I am not in the UK I can not provide up to date details. Try going to your SE SVC CTR and see if they can force update it.


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