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Posted by sielski666
how anoying the update hasnt even came out on o2 uk and theres another one out


Posted by mattdale
Hi,

I just installed the newst G firmware over my standard vodafone build in. First impressions are that it seems faster but doesn't seem as nice as it did before. Maybe it's just a theme thing but a lot of it looked nicer under the voda branded firmware.

My biggest gripe though, and there may be a solution to this, is on the main screen the right hand button takes me to the menu. On the vodafone firmware it took you into a neat little tabbed menu, ok so the VF live menu was pointless but it had an event tab, a current running apps tab and most importantly a shortcuts tab which I used regularly.
I know this little page still exists because if I get a text message I can shift sideways and see the shortcuts but I have NO idea at all how to get into this menu otherwise, either through the menus or any shortcut buttons.

Anyone got any ideas? As this will drive me crazy.

Posted by mwarner
@sielski666
The firmware hasn't come out for any UK phone - branded or generic - yet. I suspect the UK companies are more cautious than other countries as there is a very large phone base here and I suspect profits are lower than in many other countries due to the huge competition in the UK phone market.

Posted by sielski666
ah right thanx that calmed me down alot.

Posted by GavinAshford
i dont see the point in stressing about not having the latest firmware, it doesnt make your phone do anything spectactularly different than before. it'll come when it comes. its not even been released a week yet!

Posted by sielski666
ha lol here we go again

Posted by baste07
you're right another one hehehe

maybe if the FW isn't so important for him why does he post in the thread hehe =) (maybe because he already has the new fw)

Posted by baste07
yeah what's the update done on the R1EJ001?

Posted by simon_b
Could anybody with experience of past O2-branded SE handsets give us any idea of how quickly O2 roll out UK firmware updates after other regions start to receive them? Will they almost certainly release the update and, if so, do we normally have to wait days, weeks, months..? I am very happy with my K800 as it stands but am particularly keen to have the update for the bug fix for the correct reading of artist/album tags on WMA files.

Posted by GavinAshford
firmware is important to me, yes i want my phone to be as stable as possible and have the full funtionality that it was designed for but being impatient wont get you anywhere.

but no, i purposefully debranded on wotan to the exactly same first release firmware my phone had on so that i could use seus to get the generic firmwares when they are available rather than wait longer for the operator specific firmwares.

you cant be that desperate if you dont want to pay 7euros to wotan for the latest firmwares.

Posted by dcuk
Hi mattdale,

If I've read your post correctly this button should now be the one you are looking for to provide the same function.




Posted by Rekoil
I would update to R1EJ001 on my K610i except theres no Nordic release yet
Can anyone whos updated tell me just quickly whats been changed?

Posted by GavinAshford
simon_b -

looking at the k750i firmware post you'll find that the R1N035 generic firmware was released on seus on the 12th Sept 2005 however the o2 version was not available for a further 4 weeks (ok there were a few problems i believe) the orange version was available within 2 weeks of the generic version being available on seus.

so hopefully branded users dont have too long to wait but you never know. there might not be any release at all.

Posted by baste07
Are der new enhancements on d new fw?

This message was posted from a K800i

Posted by jkbcheng
Refer to first page, R1ED001 - Ability to set an Application as a Wallpaper now available (application needs to be specifically coded for use as wallpaper). Anyone can tell me what application can be used as wallpaper???

Thanks


Posted by patrick_teo
Quote:

On 2006-10-09 13:19:57, sapporobaby wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-10-09 05:25:15, patrick_teo wrote:
The Sync summary does not indicate whether it is due to the phone or computer. Where can I set the OBEX timing on my computer? I am using Win XP2.


I don't think you can set the OBEX timing. It is probably a communications error as the timing is usually set by the software. Have you done the customary, turn off and on the phone, un-install and re-install the software? I am not a Windows person, Mac and Linux so I can not be much help there.
Sorry.




I have done those actions but the problem still persist. Thanks anyway.

Posted by obentou
Wow. I haven't been on the forums for a while, and now a R1EJ001 pops up?!?! Darn, there goes my money for R1ED from Wotan!



Posted by obentou
OK well for fun I just plugged my K790i and updated through SEUS to R1EG001. Even though I have an East Asian Language model (APAC, to be exact) it didn't update to R1EJ001 or whatever was mentioned on the first page.

For now, one difference I notice is that the "fade to bright" (ie. from unlocking to brightness) transition is a lot smoother now.

Will report more as the days go by.

Posted by bronxdude
Quote:

On 2006-10-10 17:40:13, mgd wrote:
There are two new releases.

R1EJ001 is for the Indonesian, Malaysian, Phillipine & Vietnamese markets
R1EG001 is fo the UK/German/Australian & South African markets





i cant update. im from the philippines and have flashed thru davinci

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 02:56:58, GavinAshford wrote:
simon_b -

looking at the k750i firmware post you'll find that the R1N035 generic firmware was released on seus on the 12th Sept 2005 however the o2 version was not available for a further 4 weeks (ok there were a few problems i believe) the orange version was available within 2 weeks of the generic version being available on seus.

so hopefully branded users dont have too long to wait but you never know. there might not be any release at all.



Exactly Gavin,

I have said this post after post after post. There is no garantee that there will be a release for branded users. No one says that there has to be any releases at all. However this is lost on almost everyone here. SE has not, in any document I have read, stated that they will release updates. They state that from time to time they MAY release an upgrade. The continued complaining and demanding that SE release an upgrade is pointless, and shows a lack of sophistication and a propensity to dwell on the non-sequitor. Having a functioning purchase is a right but many of the issues that are popping are the products of too much idle time and not enough understand that when you design and develop things, they tend to not be perfect.

Posted by mattdale

Awesome, thanks very much. The reason I didn't get that is because on my handset that button is a red phone with a line through it and doesn't look at all like the handset you post a pic of. Never realised voda had custom keypads as well as firmware and branding on the outside of the phone.

Quote:

On 2006-10-11 02:31:42, dcuk wrote:
Hi mattdale,

If I've read your post correctly this button should now be the one you are looking for to provide the same function.






Posted by aremaboy
Other findings of R1ED001:
Just sent a snapshot to my existing blog, which was created already sometime ago with my R1CB001--having posted successfully all the time though. But, guess what? I got a text from Blogger along with the token and the new blog address! So, can others verify this also? Why wasn't my photo sent to the existing blog I have so far? I didn't make any changes in the blog site.

Posted by altemyr
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 09:04:00, aremaboy wrote:
... So, can others verify this also?



Nope, I have R1ED001 also. Same blog as before the upgrade, though.
BTW, is there any way to change the address? For example, if the phone has to be replaced, or if you buy a new one, or if you want to upload to the same blog from two different phones?

I still haven't found any new bugs or inconveniences introduced in the new FW version, even though there are some that still seem to remain, the limit of 10 entries in the code memory, or the unability to scroll the playlist in "now playing" mode in the music player, for example.
I don't quite unerstand the reason for the delay of the internet button. I have put an address to a local page in the phone there, so I don't need to connect to the internet.

Does anyone know if the SMTP problem (using a SMTP server that does not require authorization failed unless you specified it's IP address instead of it's DNS name) is fixed in this FW version? I haven't tested yet.

Posted by Red_Rach
Is anyone able to tell me what the difference is between the SE updated and the updates available from various sites such as WOTAN and DaVinci?

Do the others work as well as the official ones?

Posted by tomchadwin
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 07:19:58, sapporobaby wrote:

The continued complaining and demanding that SE release an upgrade is pointless, and shows a lack of sophistication and a propensity to dwell on the non-sequitor.



"Non-sequitur".

*Parp*

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 10:08:59, Red_Rach wrote:
Is anyone able to tell me what the difference is between the SE updated and the updates available from various sites such as WOTAN and DaVinci?

Do the others work as well as the official ones?



This and many more questions have been answered over and over in this very thread. You have to go and find the answers dude.


Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 10:29:52, tomchadwin wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 07:19:58, sapporobaby wrote:

The continued complaining and demanding that SE release an upgrade is pointless, and shows a lack of sophistication and a propensity to dwell on the non-sequitor.



"Non-sequitur".

*Parp*



Got something to add?

Posted by ants
Hi, I live in Australia, I just tried updating through SEUS and it said no update available. I have a 3 branded phone however I have read that people have debranded this phone.

What do I do?

Posted by eyecue
Heads up for all you aussies, just updated my Vodafone branded K800i via SEUS. I almost creamed my pants

Now... to debrand *shifty eyes*

Posted by ants
eyecue for me it said no update available? I can't find anything wrong that I have done. ugonly thing is that my battery is about 80% charged instead of full. That shouldn't be a problem though :S

Posted by mgd
Quote:

i cant update. im from the philippines and have flashed thru davinci



The new firmware mentioned has been released on Wotan.

Posted by eyecue
Strange, although I 'did' remove all phone related drivers from Device Manager first, and re-connected my phone before I checked for an update this time.

Windows doesnt show non-connected devices in Device Manager by default.

1) Start > Run > Regedit

2) Navigate to:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SYSTEM\\CurrentControlSet\\Control\\Session Manager\\Environment]

3) Create the following value:

Value Name: DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES
Data Type: REG_SZ (String Value)
Value Data: (1 = show all hidden devices)

You'll need to reboot/logoff>on to take effect.

4) Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager
5) View > Show Hidden Devices

You should know what to do from here.

Posted by killsta
The R1ED firmware seems buggier than the last - and its not like I'm actually looking for the bugs either!

Another one I've found - when the phone is switched off and on charge, if you unplug the charger the screen lights up then goes off (like normal), but on the screen it says "Calls" above the left hand button and "More" above the right hand button

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 11:32:03, killsta wrote:
The R1ED firmware seems buggier than the last - and its not like I'm actually looking for the bugs either!

Another one I've found - when the phone is switched off and on charge, if you unplug the charger the screen lights up then goes off (like normal), but on the screen it says "Calls" above the left hand button and "More" above the right hand button



How so? This firmware is stable and reliable. Is this really a bug or does it hamper your phone in anyway?

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 11:32:03, killsta wrote:
The R1ED firmware seems buggier than the last - and its not like I'm actually looking for the bugs either!

Another one I've found - when the phone is switched off and on charge, if you unplug the charger the screen lights up then goes off (like normal), but on the screen it says "Calls" above the left hand button and "More" above the right hand button



How so? This firmware is stable and reliable. Is this really a bug or does it hamper your phone in anyway?

Posted by sn3ipen
Yez it can harm his phone because the signs can burn on to his screen. Thats the whole point of a screensaver that is moving.

Posted by killsta
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 12:03:45, sapporobaby wrote:


How so? This firmware is stable and reliable. Is this really a bug or does it hamper your phone in anyway?




Doesn't hamper the phone no, just a little bit annoying. I'm not denying the firmware is stable and reliable, just little obvious niggles can get annoying.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 12:13:42, speedooh wrote:
Yez it can harm his phone because the signs can burn on to his screen. Thats the whole point of a screensaver that is moving.




Please, please, please think about what you just said. Are we using tube or plasma technology now? Do you really believe this? Say you are joking or that you really do not know.

Posted by farkasg
There is no burn in in TFT, STN LCDs...



Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 12:41:48, farkasg wrote:
There is no burn in in TFT, STN LCDs...





Right. I agree with you a blazillion percent.

Posted by baste07
so what's the update made to the R1EJ FW?

Posted by sn3ipen
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 12:37:18, sapporobaby wrote:
Please, please, please think about what you just said. Are we using tube or plasma technology now? Do you really believe this? Say you are joking or that you really do not know.



Sorry mate. My fault. You are absolutely correct. I didnt know. oops!
*Embaressed*

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Cause a dance with me might last you forever.

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[ This Message was edited by: speedooh on 2006-10-11 11:55 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 12:52:26, speedooh wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-10-11 12:37:18, sapporobaby wrote:
Please, please, please think about what you just said. Are we using tube or plasma technology now? Do you really believe this? Say you are joking or that you really do not know.



Sorry mate. My fault. You are absolutely correct. I didnt know. oops!
*Embaressed*

_________________
If i ask you to dance, you bether say never.
Cause a dance with me might last you forever.

I ESATO!!!

[ This Message was edited by: speedooh on 2006-10-11 11:55 ]




Been there, done that.

Posted by scaglifr
Strange : I have CXC1250210 R1CB001 here in the UK, SEUS tells me I have the latest firmware ( dated 060608 ! ). Is there infact a newer one for UK or not , does anyone know ? If so why cannot I get it via SEUS?

Many thanks

F

Posted by wiggum
does anyone have the update files for the R1EG? im on dial up and its taking too long to d/l. if theres a place i can d/l it with get right that would be great. thanks

wats new on it anyway?

Posted by leerichards
SE seem to be really dragging their heels with regard to firmware upgrades for the UK handset, I wonder what the problem is. A slight delay on operator handsets I can understand, but not unbranded.

Posted by wiggum
does anyone have the update files for the R1EG? im on dial up and its taking too long to d/l. if theres a place i can d/l it with get right that would be great. thanks

wats new on it anyway?

Posted by baste07
but what are the enhacncement of the new FW?

Posted by MRobson
Im havin problems with the SEUS. I cant use the remote one because my k800i is a branded Vodafone and Remote Update is disabled. When i use the SEUS it tells me i have the latest firmware installed but i dont. I have
R1CE001 and I know the latest version is R1EJ001.
I am so desperate for the update please help>

Posted by gudgin
if you're in the uk, read the post on the top of this page (as opposed to the 1st post in the thread )


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