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Posted by farkasg
@sapporobaby

I think you don't want to understand what people writing... Why? To f..ck with them?

He said, that as we've read there is a chance of WSOD without EROM update... Nobody said that it is not possible to update without EROM update, but not advised... So people thought that there will be a new update process or a new firmware which doesn't need the EROM update to functioning correctly... and now SE releases on SEUS wihout modification.. Strange...

I think you forget that for most people on earth English is a foreign language. As I.... We can't express ourselves so clearly and exactly and we do typos... So please be patient.... Look behind the words...

Thanks





Posted by sapporobaby
@obentou

Nice post. Good stuff, and I agree with most of it, actually much of it. My biggest point is that many to most of these issues can be resolved by simply reading the entire thread. Before I posted once, I read the thread from start to finish so as to not burden anyone with my already answered questions. Second, rather than post something that might have been answered, I will PM someone that seem as though they know what is going on. This is called consideration. This is surely lacking here. Second, there are people here that complain, and complain, and go on and on about SE not doing this or not doing that as though SE is making this a personal affront. While some may not like my bringing them to task about their posts, others feel the same way as well. Mwarner has/had a great thread here but it quickly turned into a place to whine and moan and to bash SE because they have not done this or that. Hopefully Laffen will consider a paid forum where a more serious group can go to exchange info and the less so, can remain in the open public forum.

Finally my "tirades" are not directed at the new ones here who try to learn but at the ones here that sleep with their phones in their hands at night, while preparing for the next day bug hunting expedition.

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[ This Message was edited by: sapporobaby on 2006-10-05 17:52 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
@farkasg

If you will read my post you will see that I asked him to post his source. He made the statement about "they" (assuming he means SE) did this or that. I asked for a source behind his post. Was this wrong in asking? Why can't he provide the source if there is one?

I was not concerned about his english as this is not a matter. Actually his english is quite good. If you want to continue, please move it to PM rather than continue here.

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[ This Message was edited by: sapporobaby on 2006-10-05 17:54 ]

Posted by sielski666
ok lets just all get back to the real reason this poste is here for and not for arguing. i agree with sapporobaby is u want to argue just pm them.

Posted by farkasg
done

Posted by sapporobaby
I suggest that maybe Mwarner start a dual thread. The original but one that tracks BUGS AND ONLY NEW BUGS that have emerged in R1ED001. This should stop all the wayward posts and keep the thread on track and we as participants should police each other and force each other to stick to the topic.

This for sure would stop the maniacal tirades from me and the duplicate and annoying posts from several others.

Any takers on my idea?

Posted by sielski666
@sapporobaby

yeh im with u one that.

Posted by jj03
how long has this post been off course now...? lol...it's been a riot to read..almost like a mini opera...

Posted by josh19
Hi

New FW for K800 is OUT on FOTA, i just saw it on my phone,
the filesize is approax 3.3 MB


Posted by sielski666
hey wats FOTA

Posted by jj03
The fota (firmware over the air) update has no update available yet..at least in the uk...

Posted by josh19
Quote:

On 2006-10-05 21:44:25, sielski666 wrote:
hey wats FOTA




Firmware over Air

Go to Settings--Update Service-> Search for update
Then it will give you a message new software is available
please continue to download.
The file size is 3395kb

Im in Norway not sure if its avaiable in other country`s to



[ This Message was edited by: josh19 on 2006-10-05 20:51 ]

Posted by sielski666
thnx, i cant check coz i have no credit but if someone from the uk could try then that will be fab

Posted by josh19
Heres a screenshot to prove that i really mean it:)

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4264/img0100pz0.jpg

[ This Message was edited by: josh19 on 2006-10-05 21:04 ]

Posted by siriosechi1
yes it's available via FOTA version europe3

3069 Kb exactely

its busy

Posted by sielski666
how do u install it when u download it?


Posted by siriosechi1
@sielski666

after download,it ask if you want ton install this update,if you choice yes,the phone ask if you really want to install it,if yes,it will rebbot and then update,its a slow proces,slower than a k750i update via seusII

Posted by sielski666
so no sim extraction need and how long did the k750 take on seusII


Posted by siriosechi1
@sielski666
no nothing to do !
Automatic lol


Posted by sielski666
just got a top up and just about to do it, lol all this waiting and now i dont hink i want to do it. what else can i look forward too lol

Posted by aremaboy
It's still 03.45 a.m. here, and I'm away to my broadband PC right now..still several hours to go... anyway, can many more users with R1BC001_CHINA_WI and APAC confirm the new f/w release via SEUS? I have enough credits via GPRS here but FOTA says mine is the latest..

Posted by sielski666
hey just tryed updating through the update client on the phone and it says that i have the latest software? im in uk and apparently its on the servers?

Posted by hansen
Quote:

On 2006-10-05 10:09:31, sapporobaby wrote:
A good thing would be an ESATO premium and ESATO Lite. The premium would be a paid version of ESATO where the more knowledgable and serious phone users could hang out while the lite version would be more of a public forum.




Wouldn't you feel at least a little bit lonely in the premium world after a while? Or is there maybe anyone else you would like to grant access?

It has just tired me for a while now finding that the most reoccuring and repetitive posts in this thread seems to be from one user, picking on others in a bullying manner.

Posted by Sirhackalot
@ sielski666 yes you are correct it is on some of the U.K. servers but it may on be available for your region. Check to see what your region code is such as EU1, EU2, EU3.... or EMEA1, EMEA2, EMEA3......etc. Then once it is has been clearly stated that Fw version xxxx is avaliable for your region code you know its time to download.


Posted by sielski666
@sirhackalot

hey how do i find out wich server im on?

Posted by typhoon9
Quote:

On 2006-10-05 22:56:31, sielski666 wrote:
hey just tryed updating through the update client on the phone and it says that i have the latest software? im in uk and apparently its on the servers?


I am in the uk and my phone says i have the latest f/w version R1CB001 must not be in the uk yet


Posted by sielski666
might take a day to get it in uk. it seems to be popping up in countries all over the world may be well get it ta moz

Posted by Sirhackalot
It's not what server your on but it's the specific regional language your phone has. Firmware updates are released individually to different regions. Im assuming you know how to get to the Service Menu screen. from there just go Service Info => Software Info. You won't see EUx or EMEAx for some reason on the Hong Kong models? I have seen it in past models at this screen. If you see CXC1250215_HONG_KONG_ @ line 1 you will have to wait tills a member says that R1ED is avaliable for region.

Posted by sielski666
ah right. well hope its up ta moz


Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-05 23:22:45, hansen wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-10-05 10:09:31, sapporobaby wrote:
A good thing would be an ESATO premium and ESATO Lite. The premium would be a paid version of ESATO where the more knowledgable and serious phone users could hang out while the lite version would be more of a public forum.




Wouldn't you feel at least a little bit lonely in the premium world after a while? Or is there maybe anyone else you would like to grant access?

It has just tired me for a while now finding that the most reoccuring and repetitive posts in this thread seems to be from one user, picking on others in a bullying manner.



You are about a day late and a dollar short. Sooooo you know where you can go. Anyway, move on. And if there was a premium forum and you were not there, I am sure you would not be missed.

Posted by baste07
i'm sure the same if for you sarpo baby

Posted by baste07
Quote:

On 2006-10-05 16:14:23, baste07 wrote:
just want to confirm because looking at my software info i see

R1CB001 prgCXC1250210_GENERIC_W1 R1CB001
( i see from other post that the "generic" part is the location / region (like hong_kong) what does the GENERIC mean?

also in the customization i see
CDA102511/13 R7A cxc1250490 R1CB001 E_PLUS

what does the E_PLUS mean? if my phone branded?




can i follow up on this inquiry? thanks.

Posted by baste07
after searching some more in the new i saw that e_plus is a brand, thus i believe my phone is branded. does this mean i won't be able to get a new FW ota? or using SEUS?

is debranding the k800i in wotan allow me to update my FW the next time? thanks.

Posted by aremaboy
E-Plus is an operator in Germany if I'm not mistaken...I think you should wait SEUS releases an approval of your new firmware later than the generic one. You can use Wotan and debrand it and then use SEUS in the future. Correct me if I'm wrong...

Posted by chatnoir
Hey guys,

Is it normal that my phone doesn't have FOTA even if it's unbranded? I bought this from online from France. There's no such function to let me update my phone...

software info: R1CF001 prgCXC1250210_GENERIC_WI R1CF001
customization: CDA102511/54 R4A cxc1250490 R1CF001 FRANCE

Is there a way to have that FOTA function in my phone? Or... there's no way?
Thanks for help.

Posted by ksng
The issue is on R1CB001 firmware. It is good that the new firmware take care of the issue.

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Sony K800 phone contacts multi characters search is not working well.

Eg. type St and the 2nd character "t" did not bring the phone contact names to starting at St... but stays at the Sa... contacts names

Hope Sony can solve this minor issue in the next firmware..


Posted by baste07
@aremaboy

This message was posted from a K800i

Posted by baste07
Quote:

On 2006-10-06 02:47:42, aremaboy wrote:
E-Plus is an operator in Germany if I'm not mistaken...I think you should wait SEUS releases an approval of your new firmware later than the generic one. You can use Wotan and debrand it and then use SEUS in the future. Correct me if I'm wrong...


thank you for that information. i think i'll just debrand it so i can have a generic FW

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-10-06 02:47:42, aremaboy wrote:
E-Plus is an operator in Germany if I'm not mistaken...I think you should wait SEUS releases an approval of your new firmware later than the generic one. You can use Wotan and debrand it and then use SEUS in the future. Correct me if I'm wrong...



E-Plus is an operator in Germany. The third one in fact. The fact is E-Plus partially brands their phones. You can buy an unrestricted phone still with the start up and shut down screens E-Plus branded, so if your phone is not stuffed with E-Plus crap then your phone is not locked or pointing to E-Plus sites and info can be editied.

Posted by sPank
Think I found another bug. Doesn't work for me anyways:

Slide open the cover for your camera. Text at the bottom sez "Press 0 for help"....try pressing 0. Doesn't do anything. Also doesn't work opening the camera from the main menu...

EDIT: This is using the standard firmware, not the new stuff.

[ This Message was edited by: sPank on 2006-10-06 06:13 ]

Posted by Daisun
press 0 when the cybershot logo goes away. ie when u can start taking photos

Posted by aremaboy
I can confirm that R1ED001 APAC is already out there on SEUS. I just tried until release C button, SEUS told me to update mine to APAC K800i. But, I must work now, so I didn't update mine yet. I'll do that later tonight when my internet connection is 'safer' ..wish me luck,then..at least I have known the new f/w is already out..it's a matter of time to get it.

Posted by yangximusic
I cannot updata firmware from SEUS !!. who can?

version = R1CF001 (Hongkong) .

Posted by siriosechi1
@chatnoir

the service update on the phone is desactived in france, so no way....

only solution ; wait a few days and try SEUS II on pc

i'm from belgium héhé

Posted by chadiwrx
I can confirm the updated for Aus is available. My handset is Optus branded & i just got it updated to R1ED001 via SEUS.

Posted by Fernandinho
Why mine hasn't updated the EROM? Anyone knows? My EROM is R3A011 and not R3A016 as indicated in the 1st post.

And one more thing, I've updated thru SEUS in the beginning of the afternoon (EU1 Unbranded) and at night, I have tryied again and SEUS have informed that my phone needs updtate... Ido the update but anything has been change... even the EROM...

Anyone knows why?

Best Regards from Portugal

Posted by mwarner
Noted the SEUS release in the first post.

Posted by Mal M
My non-branded phone also bought in Australia was able to be updated tonight through SEUS. Looks like successful reports of SEUS upgrades will start coming in quickly now!

SEUS says that I am using Europe_2 firmware.

Anyways, the relevant Software information after the upgrade:

CDA102511/83 R5A
R1ED001
EROM: R3A011

(Interesting that the EROM wasn't updated)




Posted by yangximusic
confirm.. now hongkong version can update !! R1ED001

rom still = R3A011

Posted by si3rra
Europe_4 Realesed, Only on SEUS not on FOTA, updating mine now..
And i live in Sweden..
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Edit
The result:

*waiting, waiting, damn crappy animation *

R1ED001
prgCXC1250210_GENERIC__WI R1ED001
EROM: R2A011

....EUROPE_4 ...

[ This Message was edited by: si3rra on 2006-10-06 10:07 ]


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