Posted by mwarner
Updated the first post following DarrenGF's information (EROM & Portable Hands Free fixes).
Posted by mrwoll
Am thinking of updating via Wotan. What exactly needs to be backed up? I am assuming Contacts, Messages, Apps&Games, Wap Settings..anything else?
Posted by darrengf
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** Glad that it worked fine for you **
@aremaboy
SEUS doesnt have 1 type of phone that it updates, also SE wouldnt allow you to pick and choose what firmware you place on the phone.
For Example, You purchased a Voda Branded K800 and then was allowed to debrand for free. So Voda would prob take action agenst it and all hell would brake loose.
Next point is that people like to know that they press C and plug it in, thats it. They dont want to press 2 and 5, removed the battery do this do that (They may have to eventualy tho)
SEUS trys to to cope with every type of person. Some feel comfortable to use it, Some like to make sure first, they want simplicaty not to click here, choose this, enable this, clear this etc.
Regarding the FOTA. This currenlty wont update the firmware or the EROM. The phone would currenlty not accept the EROM over the air correctly, Again this is something SE is looking at but dont expect a fix soon.
Hope this answers the question
@mrwoll
You have to back up everything, When using wotan server it rewrites the software - So it looks like you have a new phone.
SEUS only rewrites part of the software (The Bugs)
The only thing that will not change is the security code in the phone and the Sim Lock (If the phone is locked to a network)
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[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2006-10-02 00:59 ]
Posted by obentou
Happened to find a bug that occasionally pops up on R1ED:
Sometimes the menu items or selections anywhere become some memory allocation address sort of thing.
For example, "Messaging" turns into F4:xxxx, or the "Delete" selection turns into "F4:2xxx". This pattern applies to all texts.
Posted by bronxdude
@ darrengf
ok. i dont get it now. lol.
lets say that i have a new phone with the old f/w and erom.
1. ) what will i do to get it current (erom and f/w)
2. ) how will i do it
cheers mate
Posted by obentou
bronxdude,
1. Download the Wotan Client. Then follow the instructions.
2. See #1.
Posted by darrengf
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The only place you can download is at Wotan Server (there are others however this is the easiest to use), taking the phone to a SE service center or sending of to a service center.
SEUS is currenlty not able to update the phone and erom and SE are working on a fix.
** However, If you dont have a fault with the phone and dont feel confident in using Wotan server then leave the phone as it is for the time being. **
Hope this helps.
Knowledge is power and power is knowledge
Posted by DCUK7
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I take it you cannot reproduce this every time? I've never seen that happen on mine. Might keep a look out for it though but it might be down to a bad flash!
Posted by obentou
It has occured several times. I cannot reproduce it with a sequence of defined keypresses that I do on the phone. It is just random. The flash was successful and Wotan did not pop up with any error reports. EROM is also up to date. Perhaps it is only my unit, but keep an eye for those "F4:xxxx" things.
Posted by DragonEye
Changes in firmware that I have noticed.
Phone operates much faster
for example
-scrolling through phonebook is way faster, even from marking and sending
multiple contacts
-Message mailbox alot faster no more lag scrolling through messages
-Faster to access files in filemanager
-Building thumbnails
MMS menu redesign
Bt connection seems more stable
Memory management seems to be improved
Battery management seems better
Joystick does not wake up screen anymore
new clock layout
Reception is not as choppy as before (bars are still a bit pessimistic still)
seems to be one of the most signifigant updates i've seen by se since the t616 and R1B
Posted by shanespencer
@ obentou:
You're not alone with your problem - my K800i does it too! Mine does it when viewing photos in camera pictures, and I select the context menu. I get funny code instead of 'view mode'.
Like yours, mine is random, not every time. Didn't do it before flashing to R1ED001.
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Posted by DaMekon
So no improvements in mp3 quality.. this phone sucks as a music player compared to the k750, which I thought was an excellent player... how can they make things worse than its predecessor
Posted by ghostfreak
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It's not supposed to be a music player!
Posted by jcwhite_uk
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I breifly used a K750i and find the K800i music player is better. What dont you like about it?
Posted by pinkboy
Here's a question i haven't seen answered here (i don't think....):
Can a SE firmware update enable flash-enabled icons (or whatever) or is a separate program needed for that, and if so, is the K800 likely to ever get one of the best bits of the w810i? Lot's of people say they want it, but i haven't heard anything definitive as of yet....
I'd love to see themes become a bit more varied on the menu screen - customisation is a BIG hobby of mine and loads of other people!
Posted by baste07
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what's your basis in saying that its phone music player sucks? are you playing it attached to a component and listening to it in the entire house?
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ill try that! thanks so much DARRENGF! ill keep than in mind. hahaha!
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Posted by bronxdude
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hahahha! short but precise. thanks so much obentou
Posted by sahran
Hiii
I updated my phone by wotan server i'm happy now thanks for everyone.
something new in this firmware...in settings>display>wallpaper>you can
select application and set it as wallpaper..very coool
Posted by dcuk
Sorry to say in last couple of days I have also lost my applications and games original and added ones!
hadn't done anything different with the phone plus any usb use was made whilst pc was running fine without any crashes (clean install of OS 10 days ago (I do this about every six months or so) and fully virus scanned)
tried ideas mentioned in this and other threads to get original items back but no go!
only thing been able to do after a fight is re-install some other apps,
at first every Jar kept saying not enough memory to run even though they installed
two of the Jar items ask in an option screen if I want to run one of the original items (which are now supposedly now missing) or the Jar I'm trying to start! Trying to run a named missing item fails
Sounds almost like a software memory buffer overflow problem with the phone, by the way only had about five apps installed so there is still plenty of space on the phone also memory card.
PS: still on original firmware and EROM.
(I guess all original Jar items will be replaced durin the flash process)
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KEY FOR NEW USERS:
Jar = Is the file extension for Java applications & Games
Posted by senninha
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i've gotten that a few times too. it happens randomly and i can't really say when it will happen. sometimes an item in a menu will appear in that funny code, but when i back out of the menu and select it again, it then displays normally.
Posted by darrengf
Good morn to you all.
Im a little confused in to why some people think that the K800i music player is worst that the K750.
The phone however is not marketed on a music player, that what the w series does best. However i have never had a problem and find the player just fine. If you can explain then i will try and help?
Posted by farkasg
@sahran
And what kind of application can you set as wallpaper? Are there any?
If so could you post a picture?
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Posted by senninha
i've actually been comparing the music players of my K800 and K750 with W800 firmware back to back, and while the K800 doesn't have megabass, it seems to offer better clarity with solid bass. while everyone has their own taste, i actually prefer the sound quality of my K800.
Posted by bronxdude
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i think most of them are disappointed by the fact that SE did not include MEGABASS.
but for me, the player is way better
Posted by jucame
I was usually complaining about the bad sound on the K800 but after the new sw i have dowload from wotan i find the sound of the K800 is at least the same as my W810 or W800, so now i am happy with the mp3 side of my K800.
Posted by Vercetti
The K750i has the Megabass function and the K800i doesn't why is that, there both K series not Walkman so why?
Posted by baste07
hope SE fixes the SEUS so that we can update our phones already for free.
Posted by sapporobaby
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By your logic, they should also be CyberShots as well. Market differentiation. The W is targeted at one market while the CyberShots are targeted at another. This is not too hard to understand.
Posted by [c3]
common SE!! LETS GET IT OVER AND DONE WITH! when will they release this damn update!
Posted by sahran
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here the application download from here :
http://download.yousendit.com/04FBF2DA67298D17
it's from SE developer world , unzip the jar file (slideshow.jar) then install it in the phone memory in the application folder , then select it from settings>display>wallpaper>application .
you can select the jar file from application folder also to make it a wallpaper by pressing more then wallpaper.
but one thing annoying it's always asks to allow to read user data.
Posted by aremaboy
Don't hope to much for SEUS updating our phone. Let's just enjoy the R1BC001 and do something else. Having a week vacation, perhaps..
Posted by leerichards
I'm a little confused and I admit, I haven't taken the time to read through this entire posting. Am I correct in thinking that there are now two files to upgrade, the standard firmware and the EROM? Am I also correct in thinking that whilst Wotan have developed a solution to update both, SE are struggling? Surely that can't be right and I've mis-understood.
Lee
Posted by SC-Avenger
I just upgraded my K800i firmware to R1ED001, I also noticed the bug where the menu item turned into strange address names. And it happen randomly, so far, I have only encountered it once.
Now I am able to use videos as ringtones, was this option available before R1ED001?
Posted by sapporobaby
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Yes the random stuff was mentioned a page or so back and yes the video ringing tones was there before and is mentioned in the user manual.
Posted by SC-Avenger
Thanks for the info.
Posted by frakker
@leerichards
There are two upgrades now for the K800i via Wotanserver.
R1ED001 is the latest firmware and R3A016 is the latest EROM.
EROM I believe acts like the BIOS does on a PC: helps with the boot process and should help eliminate those dreaded WSOD that have been reported when people turn their phones on.
When you attach your phone Wotan will detect that your EROM is out of date and automatically update it for you for free (so long as you have a credit in your account). Takes about 10 seconds and doesn't overwrite any data on your phone either.
Posted by gareb
I used search but aint found the answere to my question. Can you use the cable that comes with the K800 and update using Wotanserver?
Posted by sielski666
hey any info on the realese on seus, is there going to be a seperate seus for the erom?
Posted by frakker
@gareb - yes the USB cable (DCU-60) will work with the Wotanserver client.
Posted by senninha
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interestingly, the funny code thing would occasionally appear immediately after i flashed the phone. since i powered it off for charging, i haven't seen it again. hopefully that's the end of that...
Posted by baste07
Hope SE gets its update service up and going
This message was posted from a K800i
Posted by marcvh
hi all - just wondering if you can help me out with something - i just upgraded my k800 firmware and forgot to back up my phone, so i've lost all my contacts/settings/texts/etc.
i have found a backup from a while back of my old phone called K750.MS - it's an XML file but i can't find out which application i used to create the backup.
can anyone tell me what phone sync/backup program creates files of the .MS variety ?
cheers,
-m
Posted by Daisun
Just a question, has the new firmware allowed different ringtones for incoming video and voice calls? Correct me if this was already possible.. cause i cant seem to find where to change it...
Posted by gareb
@frakker
Thanks for the information. Now I can try wotan without any problems.
Posted by alexlui
Got mine from HK
service centre, software version has minor different
Update Service: CRH1069179 R3B019 2006-06-30 12:43
All content and personal settings gone as noticed by their CS
Posted by baste07
asked the local SESS here via email and how stupid can they get. i'm just asking when is the possible release of the new FW for this phone and they kept asking my phone. i jsut said i want to ask if they new the date of the release. then finally the last email said that the latest FW for the phone is R1E. iam asking now if they've uploaded it in the net update service or do i need to send it over to them.
Posted by gareb
Dont you think it's fantastic. I mean that in this thread is nearly 1400 posts and still no new firmware from
. Folks really care 'bout their cells. And please I aint talkin' 'bout irony just amazed me a lot.
Posted by baste07
what's even more amazing are the CS of SE... that can't even answer the question "would you know the posible release date of the new FW" ...
i mean its answerable by a NO. but they don't seem to want to answer that... they just blab blab blab
Posted by kille9
I've upgrade via Wotan.
I'v notice there is still a bug. Maybe its just my phone, but I had the same problem before update.
The problem is:
When I have set new event in settings menu to be on pop-up, my phone doesn't stop vibrating (when someone calls) when I have a videotone as ringtone. Even if the caller hangs up the phone keeps on vibrating.
It doesn't happen when I have set new event to be in the activity menu.
Does someone else have this problem with the new FW?