Posted by marmoset
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My K800i was reflashed last week by CPW to R1ED001.
Not sure what the EROM was originally but the version now is R3A016.
HTH
m
Posted by bronxdude
darrengf, can u also help me with getting credits? im from the philippines, and we dont have the access here.
also, i have a question, to upgrade the EROM, i have to do what? and then to upgrade f/w, i have to do what? im a bit confused. hahaha!
thaks for the help, mate
Posted by sapporobaby
When did this EROM "situation" start occuring? I upgraded my phone about 2 weeks ago with WOTAN and I was not presented with the option. My phone came from Finland so maybe it was not necessary but will this affect all phones in the future?
Posted by jadler
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The EROM check and upgrade option was added to the Wotan client 0.9.910 of 2006-09-21, so if you upgraded two weeks ago you may want to reflash just in order to get the EROM upgrade.
Checking this for you now, I see that there is yet another new client available, 0.9.930, and from now on the EROM upgrade is for free.
Latest info on Wotan's available firmware and client is at http://www.wotanserver.com/news.php
Posted by maldus
so here's what the problem is....
the new f/w R1ED001 puts in an older version of EROM??
so this doesnt allow the phone to switch on??
n thats the reason for the delay in releasin the f/w?
but what abt u guys who upgraded thru wotan no problems with ur phones rit?
Oh k so the EROM upgrade is now on wotan.
its pretty confusin all this
hope its sorted out soon
[ This Message was edited by: maldus on 2006-09-26 07:40 ]
Posted by sapporobaby
@maldus
I agree. It is confusing. Anyway, my EROM is the same as the one posted in the picture and I flashed my phone about two weeks ago. Maybe I got lucky but one thing for sure is that I am not going to bother flashing again. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Posted by Undying
I flashed my phone using davinciteam.
Softwareversion ist now: R1ED001
and
EROM: R3A011
I have not updated Erom in any way.
My phone works fine.
Posted by darrengf
Ok I beleive the EROM is how the phone handels certain things.
Its a bit like the BIOS on a Computer. Basic Input Out put System.
The firmware R1ED is software that is like Windows XP.
So the EROM can handle how the data in handelled, memory is allocated, processor speed. What euipment can be attached, Power devices and so on.
The Firmware resovles bugs and faults with the software, just like updating your service packs with windows xp.
Its all confusing but its all coming clear.
SE has obiv seen a fault with the EROM with the latest firmware or this is what is causing the problem with the phone not switching on.
I can only think that this is why SEUS has delayed the firmware release of the phones update at the moment. So currenlty i wouldnt expect to see it on there possible for another 2 weeks. I will try to find out today if i can and update the thread.
I have updated a couple of K800i and the first batch didnt have the EROM update and the phones work fine.
I have updated my own last night with the EROM update and again the phone went through fine.
I have compaired both of my K800i one has the old firmware, the other one that has old firmware. I can honestly say that the Camera in the new firmware is so much better, It Focuses more, Faster to take pics, Clearer (Colours look so much better) and saves faster.
Hope the above helps
Posted by drich290195
So what is the latest erom i upgraded with wotan about 3 weeks ago i have r3ao11 or whatever what advantages are their from the new one and are the problems occuring between the new firmware and my erom version if, so how come this did not affect me
This message was posted from a K800i
Posted by seddo
Hello
My Erom must of been out of date!
My phone is dead and won't turn on!
Please beware if you flashed your phone when they first released R1ED001 on wontan THEN PLEASE DON'T TURN YOUR PHONE OFF!!It might die!
Shouldn't wontan of warned people about this when they released the firmware?
I agree with the previous post if it aint broke don't fix it!
It's going back to voda for repair when my return pack arrives!Hope i don't get caught with R1ED001 firmware on it.What are the chances of void warranty?
Many thanks
Kind regards
Lee
Posted by sapporobaby
@seddo
I flashed my phone to: R1ED001 and my EROM is: R3A011. I have turned my phone on and off many times. I think I will wait for SEUS to see if I can use it. SE might have to release a new client to repair this or make flashing possible.
Posted by seddo
@ sapporobaby
Yes i hope they can reflash it but i'm not convinced!
There is a aweful burnt smell inside the phone since it died maybe a hardware failure?I might get a new phone out of them if they don't discover it debranded!
Goodluck with your phone bud hope it doesn't die on you!
Many thanks
Lee
Posted by sielski666
just found this thread to day : http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=131744
he said that he asked them if they could make erom free insted of spending a login on it. they have but when i looked it up its only for the w850
Posted by drich290195
your reading it wrng .read it agai and note the full stops in wotans description
Posted by Toney_Ericsson
I cant beleave there isnt a firmware update from SE since the first release, on o2.
Bugger paying to update you're phone before anyone mentions it
Posted by baste07
yeah. quite long on their initial release of FW
Posted by mwarner
@darrengf
I've updated the first post following your notes on camera speed and quality.
If you have the new firmware I would appreciate any comments on the camera speed and image quality. Whilst Darren is renowned for providing good information, additional results will be welcome.
Posted by jonnywells
well i have just updated JUST the EROM on my 3 UK k800i and it came back on fine.
Does this mean i shouldnt get the dreaded WSOD no more?
Posted by sielski666
so is the erom free then?
Posted by drich290195
yes please confim
Posted by sielski666
plz someone comfirm
Just to let you all know, I have emailed SE and i asked if they could give me date in which they will be releasing the R1ED001 up date on the SEUS. so when i get a email back i will update u all onn the answer.
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K800i [ This Message was edited by: sielski666 on 2006-09-26 17:17 ]
Posted by jonnywells
Well i brought 2 credits as you couldnt login other wise but i presume they just wont be used in EROM updates
Posted by drich290195
What do you mean could not log in otherwise i can always login with 1 credit
This message was posted from a K800i
Posted by darrengf
Thanks for the nice words mwarner.
Guys Im looking at the thread up until 10.30 gmt time tonight.
I have both k800i next to me, 1 wit the latest EROM and Firmware, one of them still on the old one.
If you want to ask me any questions then please do so.
One thing i will let you all know. After last night an i had done the EROM update and full firmware update, my security code in the phone stayed the same. SE have moved this onto another part of the phones circuit board so it can no longer be easy to overwrite with new software.
Also and this is a warning. If you do want to get the phone unlocked at a market stall, if the guy uses any type of battery device (like a 9v battery to unlock the phone) this will cause damage to the circuit board it self and thus stop you updating the phones firmware and EROM.
If you need to unlock the phone then please ask your network provider (I know that they charge a small ammount but its the safest thing to do and this will not damage the phone)
** Answers before you ask **
There is no difference in the speed of the menus / opening applications.
No difference in sound through the speaker, however i have not tried any of my headsets. (If you want me to let me know)
There is no difference in video quality when recording or when doing a video call.
Things that i have noticed when using the phones today.
Ok when sending items via bluetooth.
the one with the latest firmware the light goes of after 15 seconds.
The one with the old firmware takes 1 min 25 secs..
Both phones were charged up this morning and I have used them identically. (Very sad i know) (Both phones had 10 hours charge) and both were charged from flat.
However my results are as follows after 20 SMS, 2 Photos, 1 x 20 min conversation, 60 seconds of wap usage.
New firmware has 83% of battery life left
Old Firmware has 77% of battery life left.
Another thing i have noticed.
when the phone is locked when you press any buttons on the old firmware the light would come on bright then dull in a second.
On the new firmware this doesnt happen, the phone only comes on dull. The screen only becomes bright after unlocking the phone.
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2006-09-26 19:07 ]
Posted by ghostfreak
Do you have to update the EROM? I mean I updated the firmware fine but not the EROM...
Posted by mårten
darrengf
How are the camera?
I know they updated the sw, but are there any improvments?
Posted by Skrue
I 2nd darren's info regarding the battery. I had my k800 upgraded from my service centre free of charge having the R3A016 EROM and R1ED firmware. After sending quite a few games, apps, taking pics(19 pics with flash), listening to music(30mins approx.), play games and call of atmost 15mins my battery remained to 96% after a full charge. I don't have a 3G sim thus using the standard GSM network and backlight set up to 50%brightness. I believe after doing this in the old firmware would probably leave the phone to atleast 90% - 85%. Besides these, i feel that the phone is stable compared to R1CB and no more scary thoughts of the phone turning dead again.
Posted by darrengf
@mårten
The only difference i can find, is that theres less noise when taking pics in the dark. The colours seem to be slightly more natural. My blue wallpaper in dark with the flash on looks blue instead of the washed blue on the old firmware. The phones seems to save the pics a little faster.
Oh it now seems to focus on thngs better, As before some times it wouldnt always focus on things the first time.
Other wise than that i cant see any other changes.
@ghostfreak
Answer to your question is no. However it is now advisable to do so as the EROM is one of the main controllers of the phone.
If you are already using the latest firmware with the old EROM and if your phone is fine and you are happy with it, Then as my mum would say
"if it aint broke don't fix it"
However if you do the firmware update now on Wotan Server. It is advisable to do the EROM as the new K800 firmware will not always work.
@Skrue very true and i was using both 3g and 2g networks. On Orange.
However I will also try my other network sim cards and see if i get simular results
Hope this helps
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2006-09-26 19:43 ]
Posted by borg_
Can you post a photo sample of the new firmware quality
Posted by drich290195
Can someone please confirm weather changing the eprom is free im just about to do it
Posted by darrengf
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If you are using Wotan Server. It will tell you when you connect the phone and it will also give you a option to cancel the request.
However if you are upgrading the EROM, You must also upgrade the firmware.
I will attach pics shortly
Posted by darrengf
Ok These Pics are taken with the Old K800 Firmware and EROM
1 of the photos was taken in normal room light with no flash
the other one was taken in pitch dark with the flash on (As you can see from the flash back)
I will post the other photos from the other phone in another post
Posted by drich290195
Just upgraded with wotan upgrading eprom is now free
Posted by darrengf
Ok Same Pics with the New K800i
Again one with out flash in room light and one with flash in darkness
One thing to point out
Old K800i took photos in 717kb (Flash) and 345kb (No flash)
New K800i took photos in 653kb (Flash) and 320kb (No flash)
So the new phone also takes less space with the photos.
Posted by drich290195
also noticed when booting up with new eprom when it asks you to set the date in the wizard it defaults to 20/09/2006
Posted by Vercetti
Does anybody know what EROM versions there are and on wich version it's recuired to update the EROM when you want to update the firmware?
Posted by drich290195
their are versions R3A011 and the one it updates it too is R3A016
Posted by darrengf
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Currenlty only SE knows this.
However All i can say, SE wouldnt bring it out if they didnt think it was needed. So there must be something wrong with the other one.
However there are 2 version that we know of that are out R3A011 and now the latest one R3A016.
If you sent your phone of for repair then you should get it back with the new firmware and EROM.
I will also say this is why the service centers have only jest been given the firmware and this is why SE Update service has been delayed.
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2006-09-26 21:48 ]
Posted by drich290195
Beat me too it
Posted by darrengf
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Sorry lol.
Posted by aydahm
where can we learn what changes occur with a new firmware? for example on wotan the newest firmware for K790i is R1ED001 but it doesn't state what changes this new firmware comes with.
Posted by drich290195
I think we should note changes in eprom version, on the first page along with firmware changes. This is the first instance i have come across of this happening with a ony ericsson phone.
Posted by darrengf
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1st page of this forum.
SE Never tell any one whats in the new firmware only them selves. If people knew then every one would flock to say that they need the phone updating as its going to fail.
People on here like my self well always place there findings on places like esato.
drich290195 and yes i agree. I know Mwarner will rad all the updates anyway
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Posted by jnhl74
This is a joke.
Can't believe ppl is paying for something that are not fully approved by SE yet. When there are a new FW for this phone that are tested and ok it will be on SEUS, for free.
Have sent this thread to some friends at SE here in Sweden and they have had some good times as me to read posts from ppl that have bought this phone and also, paid to crash it with non public FW's.
I surely hope that ppl knows what void warranty means...
//Janne
Posted by drich290195
I disagree if you can afford to update why not, for alot f people like myself its a hobby. I like probably alot of people enjoy experimenting, if you can afford it theirs no problem. Mine was 3 uk branded i definatly dont mind paying to remove their branded rubbish.
Posted by AngelofDeath
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My first one crashed and wouldnt turn on before i had done anything to it. I'm not the only one too, if we weren't so worried about it doing it again we wouldnt be flashing our phones.
Posted by sapporobaby
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Hey Einstein thanks for the info but I think we can handle it for ourselves and if you had friends from SE they would know that the paid versions of F/W are the same ones on the SE servers.
I hope you know what pound sand means.......
Posted by baste07
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if you don't want to do it then don't
Posted by peltsi
hmm, i have been thinking that why it takes so long to put newFW out by SE. I maybe have pretty good reason for that,
so, There was this "rumor" going on where people sayd that new FW to K800i will be MR1( HUGE UPDATE) and FW
from wotan SURELY have not been huge, not even close?
Few people have noticed some fixes like DIFFERENT clock(lol) and camera improvement 0.1 ETC so, i think that there will come something big,
but that just my opinion.
where is this UPDATE where are 30pages change log etc..That update SURELY IS NOT available from wotan, that is something else.
Anyone agree with me?
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Yeah, have read many posts from ppl here that surely have handle this by their self.
Yeah the F/W are the same, but as long they are not on SEUS they are handle as non public...
Call SE customer service and hear what they have to say about using wotan or any other service to upgrade the phones F/W that SE dosent support.