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Posted by sapporobaby
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On 2006-09-24 14:00:37, sielski666 wrote:
lol u dont get it do u.




Do you mean: LOL. You don't get it do you? -----> Learn grammar then try to have an intelligent conversation. I am tired of stooping.

As I was saying, and will repeat for you again. It was not directed at you but you decided to jump in the way, now it is on you. Go learn and then come back.


Posted by sielski666
have a word with your self m8, who do you think you are. if it wasnt directed at me then same goes what is the point in coursing shit when most people are just asking or puting points across. last time i looked this a forum, a forum to help and give advise.

Posted by sapporobaby
@sielski666,

This thread which was started by MWarner as a great idea turned into a complain and moan thread because SE did not post an upgrade when people thought they should. Second, there has been no advice in this thread for quite a while. It has turned into SE bashing simply because there is no upgrade. As I said before and will say again, you can buy the upgrade, wait for it (no guarantee that it will ever come), or simply STFU and do nothing, but the daily complaints about SE not updating the F/W is sophomoric. Third, I am not the only one that thinks this way, as I have quite a few PM's from people that are also annoyed with this constant complaining and whining. In conclusion, many, very many of the older members of ESATO no longer post here simply based on the reasons I mentioned above. I happen to come here because I still like ESATO but it has changed into a place where people come to whine, cry and moan about SE and what they feel SE should and should not do. Having an opinion is one thing but to beat these same drums over and over is annoying.

Posted by sielski666
ok i agree, poeple do go on about the same thing over and over ;but some time it get for gotten so it might have to be repeated. i c wat u mean.

Posted by >500
ok so many people these days whyne, its natural, keep it to yourselves though, or mail SE about them because there is nothing we can do to fix these problems. Sapprobaby i agree with you, it is happening quite a lot here, but we please stop the arguing and stay on topic....

thanks

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-09-24 14:27:48, sielski666 wrote:
ok i agree, poeple do go on about the same thing over and over ;but some time it get for gotten so it might have to be repeated. i c wat u mean.



Thanks. I understand that I might have come across a bit hard but honestly there is nothing we can do to make SE update the SEUS, so complaining will not help. I am sure SE reads these forums from time to time but it would be better to vent at SE rather than here.

Posted by admad
MrZippy just tried... Nothing new

Posted by sielski666
very true, in the end i guess a bit of commen sens comes into it lol. any way hopefuly the update comes out this week but if it doesnt im just going to use wotan

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[ This Message was edited by: sielski666 on 2006-09-24 13:55 ]

Posted by Cupidon
@ sielski666
I`m from Romania and I can`t use wotan server to update my software;they can`t validate visa(or any) cards from Romania.So...I`m very upset because SE didn`t put any new firmware on SEUS and I`m sure there are many like me.

Posted by Pebb
What does the EROM update do ?

I'm on Orange and the program name is prgCXC1250461_EROM_DB2020_WILMA_FOTA_SIMLOCK_FLAFLA_SIBLEY_SEMCUSB


If I update it, will the network lock be removed ?

Cheers

Posted by sielski666
@ cupidon

have u tryed looking on daVinci it the same kind of thing. they might accept them on there.

Posted by baste07
i doubt if SE read these forums.

Posted by AngelofDeath
I just upgraded my EROM then reflashed to R1ED.

Went as smooth as.

Posted by darrengf
Quote:

On 2006-09-24 16:49:47, baste07 wrote:
i doubt if SE read these forums.

To answer this question.

SE do read these forums and may more of them.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-09-24 16:31:12, sielski666 wrote:
@ cupidon

have u tryed looking on daVinci it the same kind of thing. they might accept them on there.




Dude,

I bought two credits when I flashed my k800i. I have an extra one. If you have PayPal or some way, I can sell you mine. I have not used it so it is sitting there.

Posted by kille9
I have mailed SE andthey confirmed that the new SW will be released on SEUS, but they couldn't give any date. This was about 1,5 week ago.

And please all of you. STOP complaining, all of us who read this thread are waiting for the new SW. We all know of the bugs in the phone and we know SE hasn't released the SW officially yet. So why complaining about it???

Please stick to the topic!

Over and out!

Posted by Cupidon
@ sapporobaby
Hy,I really want to update my software but I can`t use wotan because they can`t validate visa(or any) cards from Romania.How to pay you for that credit????????plsssssssssssss

Posted by obentou
Anybody know the difference between these two F/W's?

K790_CXC1250481_CHINA_EV_R1ED001_RED49

and

K790_CXC1250491_CHINA_R1ED001_RED49

Thanks.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-09-24 22:25:39, Cupidon wrote:
@ sapporobaby
Hy,I really want to update my software but I can`t use wotan because they can`t validate visa(or any) cards from Romania.How to pay you for that credit????????plsssssssssssss



Check your PM.

Posted by Cupidon
pls tell me what is EROM,because it says my version is way to old and my phone can die after flashing????
I want to update my k800 because the music volume is more than slow and I don`t know if this problem is from this EROM or from software.My phone is not locked on any network.I have only 1 cerdit (10x sapporobaby) and I don`t know what to do:update my EROM or my softaware?

[ This Message was edited by: Cupidon on 2006-09-24 22:07 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-09-24 23:00:53, Cupidon wrote:
pls tell me what is EROM,because it says my version is way to old and my phone can die after flashing????
I want to update my k800 because the music volume is more than slow and I don`t know if this problem is from this EROM or from software.My phone is not locked on any network.I have only 1 cerdit (10x sapporobaby) and I don`t know what to do:update my EROM or my softaware?

[ This Message was edited by: Cupidon on 2006-09-24 22:07 ]



Sorry dude. I have no idea what that is. Write to them or contact them on ICQ. They will help you out.

Posted by pdg
I used wotan to debrand my phone and all was ok. However I've noticed a hardware problem and I'm going to have to take it back to the shop...what do I do? Can I just say that I used SEUS and it updated me to R1ED001...? Or am I completely out of luck here?

Posted by AngelofDeath
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On 2006-09-25 00:23:17, pdg wrote:
I used wotan to debrand my phone and all was ok. However I've noticed a hardware problem and I'm going to have to take it back to the shop...what do I do? Can I just say that I used SEUS and it updated me to R1ED001...? Or am I completely out of luck here?



I had used wotan before my old hardware problem i sent mine back and they just sent me a new one.

Posted by Cupidon
Heeeeeeeeeeelp plsssssssssss!!!!
I`m from Romania and I had one credit on wotan(from spporobaby because wotan can`t validate visa(or any) cards from Romania).I wanted to update my software but after 1 min using wotan client appeared a message saying that my EROM is very old,and phone might not start after flashing,I thought I can update my software from seus(when is available) so I ugraded my EROM.When I tried to start my phone...SURPRISE ((!!!!!
My phone is dead and cannot be started!!! And guess what? I must update my software to R1ED001 for resolving this problem ((( pls somebody help me with 1 credit and I`ll pay for it (I don`t know how but i will) or please tell me how to buy 1 credit from wotan (((
p.s. excuse my english (((
I`m very unlucky

[ This Message was edited by: Cupidon on 2006-09-25 00:05 ]

Posted by AngelofDeath
Quote:

On 2006-09-24 23:00:53, Cupidon wrote:
pls tell me what is EROM,because it says my version is way to old and my phone can die after flashing????
I want to update my k800 because the music volume is more than slow and I don`t know if this problem is from this EROM or from software.My phone is not locked on any network.I have only 1 cerdit (10x sapporobaby) and I don`t know what to do:update my EROM or my softaware?

[ This Message was edited by: Cupidon on 2006-09-24 22:07 ]



EROM sort of means extended ROM. It contains the primary certificate of the phone. You can upgrade it from r3a011 to r3a016 using Wotanserver.
If you do this though you will also need to flash the firmware (even if you allready have R1ED001), so you will need 2 wotan credits.

IF YOU JUST UPGRADE THE EROM WITHOUT REFLASHING THE FIRMWARE YOU WILL HAVE A PHONE THAT WON'T SWITCH ON

If you do this, this should in theory stop all the problems with the WSOD's and the phone not turning on again. Something i experienced myself.

I have to say mine went perfectly.

Picture attached. Please excuse the image it was taken on my other halfs W810I.



Posted by Cupidon
why did`t you said this earlier???

I really need some help!!!!!!!!!!
What can I do?????


[ This Message was edited by: Cupidon on 2006-09-25 00:14 ]


Posted by AngelofDeath
I was in the process of typing it.

Patience young padawan.

Someone will help you with a credit.



[ This Message was edited by: AngelofDeath on 2006-09-25 00:16 ]

Posted by Cupidon
My phone is dead! and I live in a town which doesn`t have SE sevice center I`m in deep s...t

PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME!

[ This Message was edited by: Cupidon on 2006-09-25 00:37 ]

Posted by bronxdude
*hopes and prays SE will release the new FW*

Posted by Pebb
Can someone who has ugrapded their EROM post the program name pls ?

Posted by darrengf
Ok I need to get my head round this.
I updated a friends K800i (Debranded the phone from Orange) 2 weeks ago.

When i connected the phone, Erom never said it was out of date and Ive now read that you have to enable the ARM of the phone.

However the phone went through perfect with out a glitch.

The update was done on wotan server.

I was extremely impressed and was going to update my K800 which is already unbranded last night my self. However now i need 2 credits due to the erom out of date.

However this message as never appeared before. Am i to take it that this is a Gen SE erom?

I understand what the function does etc, but cant understand why all of a sudden we are now having to update?

Any suggestions or help please.



Posted by Cupidon
PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!! or tell me what to do!!!

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-09-25 10:22:56, Cupidon wrote:
PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!! or tell me what to do!!!



Dude,

you need to just relax a bit. Did you contact the support at WOTAN to see if they could offer some help?

Posted by Undying
Hello!

Ich own a K800i. Updated it yesterday with davinciteam. Works fine. But the clock is still the same. Anyone have a picture from the new clock?

Undying

Posted by blunden
Will EROM be updated through SEUS when the update is released? If not, will I have to pay for it? I got my phone very early so I'm pretty sure it will need updating.

EDIT: I just saw that I had EROM R3A011 so I guess I need to update it.

[ This Message was edited by: blunden on 2006-09-25 17:55 ]

Posted by darrengf
Ok my next question.

If any one has had there software updated at a local repair center and the phone has been updated to the latest revision, Has the EROM also been updated to the latest revision too?

Is this why SE are delaying the release of the update?

Thanks Darren

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-09-25 18:47:19, blunden wrote:
Will EROM be updated through SEUS when the update is released? If not, will I have to pay for it? I got my phone very early so I'm pretty sure it will need updating.

EDIT: I just saw that I had EROM R3A011 so I guess I need to update it.

[ This Message was edited by: blunden on 2006-09-25 17:55 ]



What is EROM?

Posted by Cupidon
Yes, you should update your EROM but be careful to have 2 log account(one for your EROM and one for the RED001).If you update just your EROM your phone won`t get started.I`m in this situation but I can`t buy account from wotan because I`m from Romania and they don`t validate cards from here.If you want to help me I`ll pay double for 1 log account.

Posted by vacheron
WTF is EROM ?

Posted by Psycho Dave
What is EROM?
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It cant be an Erasable Read Only Memory since it has to be an EPROM to be able to program it. Well, I dont have any good idea.

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[ This Message was edited by: Psycho Dave on 2006-09-25 21:31 ]

Posted by jadler
Quote:

On 2006-09-25 19:44:03, vacheron wrote:
WTF is EROM ?



From wotanforum:

Quote:

ROM = Read Only Memory (contains "CPU firmware" that can't be overwritten)
EROM = Extended ROM (can be overwritten, contains primary certificate).
FW = Firmware (contains primary or secondary certificate).
FS = File System (contains user data, pictures, sounds, etc).
GDFS = Global Data Flash Storage (contains IMEI, calibration data, etc).
SEMC = Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications

is this enough info?

Regards Wotanserver(support)



Also note that you have to remove battery and put it back before upgrading EROM (written by Wotanserver(support) in other thread):

Quote:

When you are asked to disconnect phone and connect again with 2 and 5 keys pressed you MUST remove battery, insert again and after this attach phone with keys 2 and 5 pressed ;D. Thats it.


Quote:

when you get message about old erom, take out battery , put it back, press start and on the phone hold 2+5 and put usb cable inside...and your erom will be upgraded....

Regards Wotanserver(support)



He (?) also wrote later in same thread:

Quote:

It is MUCH better to upgrate EROM to R3A016 and SW to R1ED001 because if you not do this you can get "CAN'T POWER ON" symptom on K800/K790/K610/V630 phone and only solution will be repairing by service cable...

and YES EROM can be upgraded by DCU-60 cable (original cable that was in the box with phone)

Regards Wotanserver(support)



I am still not 100 % sure about what EROM is exactly, but this is the information I could find.

So, if you want to upgrade the EROM, make sure that you have two credits, flash the phone after upgrading the EROM. When you get message about upgrading EROM and you disconnect the phone, remove the battery and put it back, then press and hold keys 2 and 5 (on the phone) while connecting to USB. This upgrade is very quick.

There is also a new Wotan client available:

Quote:

WotanServer.com Client 0.9.920 [20060923]
======================================
* All DB2020 loaders updated
* FTP routine improved
* "Increase size of SMS storage" function removed - not all firmwares support it
* "Don't flash" checkbox removed


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[ This Message was edited by: jadler on 2006-09-25 20:01 ]

Posted by aremaboy
EROM? (Sigh) That's why, SEUS is dizzy with its K800i f/w! There will be thousands dead phones as this R1DE001 hits this 'lower' EROM version. Mine is also 11 not 16. Even W810 has got its new f/w..and K800i? (sigh). May be we need a new SEUS client to upgrade this EROM..

Posted by Cupidon
Nobody wants to help me.Pls help me to buy 1 log account on wotan server because my phone is dead and cannot be started .I will pay you for your help.7 euro is not so much to help somebody who really needs help;PLEASE try to understand.(I don`t have SE service in my town and this is the only hope)
(read up if don`t understand what im talking about)

[ This Message was edited by: Cupidon on 2006-09-25 21:20 ]

Posted by darrengf
Quote:

On 2006-09-25 22:16:49, Cupidon wrote:
Nobody wants to help me.Pls help me to buy 1 log account on wotan server because my phone is dead and cannot be started .I will pay you for your help.7 euro is not so much to help somebody who really needs help;PLEASE try to understand.(I don`t have SE service in my town and this is the only hope)
(read up if don`t understand what im talking about)

[ This Message was edited by: Cupidon on 2006-09-25 21:20 ]



If you PM Me I will sort you out a credit.

I must be mad, but im of on my holls so im feeling happy.

Posted by obentou
Now I see the reason for the delay of the new F/W. Seems my "EROM" is also version R3A011. Perhaps I'll pay Wotan 2 credits to just get my phone to R1ED for the heck of it.

Posted by darrengf
well let me know how you get on.

i havnt done it yet.

Guys and Gals.

Has any one else had the phone back from CPW / SE after bein updated and if you have what was the erom they put on ?

Thanks

Posted by obentou
Anyway, another question.

Has anyone with R1ED experienced the call timer bug still? Or has this been fixed? In more detail, the call timer in the service menu runs faster than the regular menu's stats... please let us all know if this has been fixed.

Posted by Paul_s
I read that some people (AngelofDeath in particular) have successfully flashed their phone to solve the not turning on problem..

I have a *similar*, although slightly different problem with my k800i. Before, it did the whole not turning on and red light flashing thing, but a charge overnight cured that. My problem now is that when I plug the charger in, or try to turn it on, the screen just stays white for a few minutes, then turns off. Once or twice, I've been able to see a garbled switch-on screen (with no backlight), but when I choose phone mode, it goes white again.

Is it worth me paying for the credits to reflash, do you think this will solve the problem? Or should I just take the phone back and get them to give me a new one...?

Posted by darrengf
Quote:

On 2006-09-26 00:44:24, Paul_s wrote:
I read that some people (AngelofDeath in particular) have successfully flashed their phone to solve the not turning on problem..

I have a *similar*, although slightly different problem with my k800i. Before, it did the whole not turning on and red light flashing thing, but a charge overnight cured that. My problem now is that when I plug the charger in, or try to turn it on, the screen just stays white for a few minutes, then turns off. Once or twice, I've been able to see a garbled switch-on screen (with no backlight), but when I choose phone mode, it goes white again.

Is it worth me paying for the credits to reflash, do you think this will solve the problem? Or should I just take the phone back and get them to give me a new one...?



Regarding The above.

This is a common fault with firmware R1BC001 and the latest firmware does resolve this issue.

I hope this helps

Posted by darrengf
Well i plucked up enough Courage and reflashed my phone using wotan server.
I purchased 2 credits and did the erom first and then the rest of the phone.

I was total bricking my self sh*tless.

However it did work. As you can see from the pic. (The pic was taken from my other K800i that is waiting to be updated but one phone at a time).

Any way. Its all done now and i can go to sleep.

Any questions please ask, I will always try to help.








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