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Posted by darrengf
SE are still on for this week to place the new firmware on there server. However this is subject to change like it has with the other dates.

You can update your phone at Wotan server for aprox £5 and the phone should still update through the se firmware after.

I cant confirm or gaurantee that the firmware will def released on the SEUS server (I wish i could) however all i know that they are still aiming for the release some time this week, However im not comiting my sellf so dont have a go at me if its not on.

I will try to keep you informed if there are any changes or i can find out something.

I know the info isnt good news, but it isnt bad either.




Posted by altemyr
I still have R1CB001, yet the update service function in the phone tells me that I have the latest program version, even though the R1ED should be out by now. Has anyone ever updated their phone using the phone's built-in update service? Is SEUS working better?

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-09-18 15:52:49, altemyr wrote:
I still have R1CB001, yet the update service function in the phone tells me that I have the latest program version, even though the R1ED should be out by now. Has anyone ever updated their phone using the phone's built-in update service? Is SEUS working better?



Can you explain this: "even though the R1ED should be out by now". Who says this? SE, you, the man on the moon? Dude, the update will be out when it is out. You can do like me and many others and use WOTAN to update.

Posted by A-M
Is there any difference in the camera photos?

Posted by jcwhite_uk
I dont really want to pay to upgrade. I also dont really have a problem with my phone. I am still to find a bug that badly affects the running of the phone. It has not crashed yet and makes calls ok. I dont see the rush that some people seem to be in to update. I will upgrade when it is available on seus.

This message was posted from a K800i

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-09-18 17:45:41, jcwhite_uk wrote:
I dont really want to pay to upgrade. I also dont really have a problem with my phone. I am still to find a bug that badly affects the running of the phone. It has not crashed yet and makes calls ok. I dont see the rush that some people seem to be in to update. I will upgrade when it is available on seus.





This message was posted from a K800i



THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly. However, you have people that do nothing but sit on their phones all day looking for bugs, trying to make it crash, anything but getting a life outside of their phones.

Posted by jcwhite_uk
The only major problems I have come across on my k800is were hardware related so a firmware update would have been useless.

Posted by obentou
That's a shame. Well at least you're only 1/1000000 possible phone users with only HW problems, so don't sweat. I think you should take your phone in for a replacement.

Posted by Xugaa
1. Green Video Recording Line

(Fortunately this does not show on playback)

2. When playing music in the music player, the song name does not move across to show the whole name.

(Only when a song has a moderately long name)

3. Menu is not as fast as I would like.

(This could be improved with firmware, as the K750 was and that was a marvelous improvement)

Other than that the K800 is perfect! Quick, brilliant screen, brilliant video playback (King Kong is awesome), brilliant sound/music...


Posted by sapporobaby
Hey JC go on over to my thread: http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=131097 and add your $00.02.

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Posted by farkasg
Quote:


THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly. However, you have people that do nothing but sit on their phones all day looking for bugs, trying to make it crash, anything but getting a life outside of their phones.




Getting a life outside the phone.... ))

How could anybody wrote this who read mobile phone forums so frequently, and post more than 500 ? )

Why do you read this forum? Don't interested in bugs? New Firmwares? You don't upgrade your phone when a new fw is available?

It's more than funny!




Posted by Pebb
Took the plunge and updated firmware (R1ed001) via Wotanserver onto my Orange k800i. Everything went perfectly. Menus are much nicer, gets rid of the Orange Download icon and puts Play Now in it's place. Get all the update service menus etc.

One thing I did notice is that is I go into Entertainment I still have Orange Plus, thought that would have gone.

Apart from that no crashes yet, tempting fate there.......

Posted by shanespencer
Quote:

On 2006-09-18 19:44:25, Pebb wrote:
One thing I did notice is that is I go into Entertainment I still have Orange Plus, thought that would have gone.



I think Orange puts that menu onto the SIM, which is why it's still there.

Posted by inselaffe
Does anyone actually use those Orange Plus services? They've been there years, before WAP.
Must be obsolete now...

Posted by Cupidon
On k750,W800 and W810, cristal sound, lot of power, great superbass with hpm70, try give volume to your K800 and you will see that the volume for music (same melody and same earphones-hpm70-) is by far too slow.Give volume to your K750,W800,W810 and your ears will hurt,big diference;and don`t tell me to buy an ipod because my ex K750,w800,w810(with hpm70) performs like phones as welll as good music players;K800`s music volume is too slow!!!Why SE did this to all SE`s fans.I`m not the only one with this point of view and I was especting K800`s sound to be at least as the k750.
@ SAPPOROBABY: I think this is bug,quite a major one and that is why I want an update on SEUS

Posted by AngelofDeath
My replacement finally turned up. So i debranded using Wotan to the new firmware. Menu seems a tad faster. MMS sending is a whole lot nicer. I'll have a play around and posted any probs etc

Posted by obentou
For those with Wotan's R1ED, have you experienced any alarms set not going off? I've had that occasionally with my K790i R1CC003.

Added: What about general earpiece volume?

[ This Message was edited by: obentou on 2006-09-19 01:12 ]

Posted by senninha
for those on the new firmware, in the main file manager screen can you now use the keypad to access the various folders like in earlier models or do you still have to use the joystick? thanks.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

Getting a life outside the phone.... ))



You should start. Many of your posts tend to be of the whiny nature.

Quote:
How could anybody wrote this who read mobile phone forums so frequently, and post more than 500 ? )



Did you see my activation date? There are many here that have joined Esato and have many more posts than me.

Quote:

Why do you read this forum? Don't interested in bugs? New Firmwares? You don't upgrade your phone when a new fw is available?



I read this thread to see when new software is available. No, I am not interested in bugs as I can not fix them and they usually do not greatly affect the operation of the phone. Yes I upgrade my phone with f/w is available. I either use SEUS or WOTAN. I do not complain, cry or whine when SE does not release new f/w like many here.

Quote:
It's more than funny!



Non-sequitor.

Posted by sapporobaby
@Cupidon

1. Why would you want your ears to hurt?
2. Why is this a bug? Did you ever consider the fact that maybe SE did this for the very same reason that people such as you turn up the volume to where your ears hurt. Then you will be the first in line to say that SE is making a defective product that is dangerous. Were you part of the iPod lawsuit that blamed Apple for having the volume on iPods too loud?

Too bad some people need help in determining how loud to set their music.

Posted by farkasg

Have you read my posts? You mistake me for somebody else....

I've never asked when the firmware will be available as much as i've so not interested that I did not upgrade my phone via WOTAN not like you...
If there is no new features in the new firmwares so why do you upgrade?
Because of BUGS perhaps?

Every one of your posts in this topic is about pissing peoples. Somebody finding bugs in another people somebody in his phone....

Let's close this issue..

Posted by drich290195
Back too topic people

This message was posted from a K800i

Posted by Cupidon
@ SAPPOROBABY
I am very sure you didn`t understand idea of my post(maybe you didn`t want to or you can`t): K800`s volume is too slow!!!!!!!!!!!!.I prefer to put the volume down if is too loud but at the K800 volume is more under k750 and doesn`t have bass.I was refering to that volume that makes you feel like listening home with a good 5.1 sistem.Maybe you don`t have this passion for listening music and probably you dindn`t have k750,w800 or w810 to know what I`m talking about. I was especting(and wanted) K800`s sound to be at least as the k750 this is the idea.I see You are very agressive not only to me. Please read the whole post and try understanding it and don`t search for words and reasons to arque whith all.
And finally if this for you is not a bug for me and many more it is.(a major one).

Posted by >500
@sapporobaby,

every one has a right to complain. They spend this money and find that it has some problems, things theyd like to see fixed. I dont see why you keep abusing people when they do as you say, 'whyne' or wing. Again they have a right to.

Until they are satasified, they will keep doing so, and until the bugs are fixed, people will always be pointing them out.

remember every one has different needs and wants, of course some cant be met, but you have no right to abuse people

please keep this thread on topic

[ This Message was edited by: ads1107 on 2006-09-19 09:01 ]

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-09-19 09:53:18, Cupidon wrote:
@ SAPPOROBABY
I am very sure you didn`t understand idea of my post(maybe you didn`t want to or you can`t): K800`s volume is too slow!!!!!!!!!!!!.I prefer to put the volume down if is too loud but at the K800 volume is more under k750 and doesn`t have bass.I was refering to that volume that makes you feel like listening home with a good 5.1 sistem.Maybe you don`t have this passion for listening music and probably you dindn`t have k750,w800 or w810 to know what I`m talking about. I was especting(and wanted) K800`s sound to be at least as the k750 this is the idea.I see You are very agressive not only to me. Please read the whole post and try understanding it and don`t search for words and reasons to arque whith all.
And finally if this for you is not a bug for me and many more it is.(a major one).



I have 2 x B&W 800D's driven by 2 x Classe' M400 Monoblocs and a CP500 preamp, so I would say that I have a great appreciation for music. My point and only point about the volume of the k800i is that maybe SE decided to lover the total output volume as a preemption to frivolous lawsuits like those that have hit Apple and the iPod. This makes perfect sense in a world were people seem to need hand in hand guidance in operating their devices.

I have had, a w800i, w810i, currently have a k800i, and an m600i. I change phones every 3 to 6 months if I see something I like. I did skip the k750i as I did not like it.

As for arguing with all, I think you should go back to the second post and read forward. I could see it if people made an issue once twice, three time but this thread has gone off track and is a dumping group for people with a grip about SE not delivering software updates on time, or bug reports about things that are not bugs, people that seem to do nothing but spend their waking days looking for bugs. At the end of the day, it is a phone, a phone, a phone that happens to play different types of media.

Do not take it personally.
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Posted by marmoset
Just got the phone back from CarphoneWarehouse after bluetooth and crackling problems as indicated in my k800i problems thread.
They have reflashed it with firmware R1ED001.
Hopefully i won't get the same problems again.

m


Posted by JK
Quote:

On 2006-09-18 12:42:50, 786KBR wrote:
Whats up with Vlive firmware?

The phone doesnt beep when the batteries low!! WTF!!

Is it a firmware bug???

[ This Message was edited by: 786KBR on 2006-09-18 12:23 ]



Posted by chrisnewman
I use BT headset and not encountered that problem, using Voda firmware.......

Posted by [CC]RebelsAd
Quote:

On 2006-09-19 02:11:45, obentou wrote:
For those with Wotan's R1ED, have you experienced any alarms set not going off? I've had that occasionally with my K790i R1CC003.



I had it a few times with my K800 on the old firmware but everything has been fine since upgrading.

RA.

Posted by Cytech
The new firmware is released to servicepoints, and will be available on SEUS later this week, or beginning of next week.

[ This Message was edited by: Cytech on 2006-09-19 21:02 ]

Posted by Skrue
@Cytech - is it also R1ED? thanks for the info

Posted by Cytech
Quote:

On 2006-09-19 21:57:32, Skrue wrote:
@Cytech - is it also R1ED? thanks for the info




yes, it's R1ED

Posted by altemyr
Quote:

On 2006-09-18 16:00:03, sapporobaby wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-09-18 15:52:49, altemyr wrote:
I still have R1CB001, yet the update service function in the phone tells me that I have the latest program version, even though the R1ED should be out by now. Has anyone ever updated their phone using the phone's built-in update service? Is SEUS working better?



Can you explain this: "even though the R1ED should be out by now". Who says this? SE, you, the man on the moon? Dude, the update will be out when it is out. You can do like me and many others and use WOTAN to update.




Posted by slead
just updated with davinci, had one davinci credit left...
what I really noticed is that if you plug the usb cable into the phone, it shows you now the pict-bridge icon as an option... not bad

buts that all I really can see at the moment

Posted by baste07
Quote:

On 2006-09-19 02:45:02, senninha wrote:
for those on the new firmware, in the main file manager screen can you now use the keypad to access the various folders like in earlier models or do you still have to use the joystick? thanks.



i'd like to know the answer to this one too.

Posted by Sirhackalot
Bug Found

While listening to music (through speakers) that I had increased the volume of, my home line rang. So I hit the Play/Pause button while in the music player and the phone gave me a prompt saying " Continue playback through speakers?"

K800i
R1CB001

Posted by obentou
I don't think that's a bug. I think it is an intended precautionary message. I was able to replicate it every time with ease.

Posted by Sirhackalot
Quote:

On 2006-09-20 02:12:51, obentou wrote:
I don't think that's a bug. I think it is an intended precautionary message. I was able to replicate it every time with ease.



Point taken mate totally sorry!! just noticed that when I held the Pause button I held it a bit to long making it try to play after pausing. lol Totally see where the prompt comes in when playing it after pausing

Posted by bcnspeedy
What's the reasoning behind SE releasing new sw versions to places like Wotan, who charge for services, for 2-3 weeks before they go on SEUS? It seems to me that they not only get some functional testing for free, thanks to useful discussion groups like this one, but they make you pay for it ?!?! Why don't SE make free beta releases available, say like firefox do ?

I really don't see the need to pay for upgrades that are going to come shortly for free: the new sw doesn't sound like it is worth it, but most importantly, it just doesn't seem fair.

Posted by sapporobaby
Quote:

On 2006-09-20 12:16:23, bcnspeedy wrote:
What's the reasoning behind SE releasing new sw versions to places like Wotan, who charge for services, for 2-3 weeks before they go on SEUS? It seems to me that they not only get some functional testing for free, thanks to useful discussion groups like this one, but they make you pay for it ?!?! Why don't SE make free beta releases available, say like firefox do ?

I really don't see the need to pay for upgrades that are going to come shortly for free: the new sw doesn't sound like it is worth it, but most importantly, it just doesn't seem fair.




This question has been answered to death in this very thread. Read back a few pages and you will get your answers.

Posted by mwarner
> What's the reasoning behind SE releasing new sw versions
> to places like Wotan, who charge for services, for 2-3 weeks
> before they go on SEUS?

They release firmwares to third party suppliers (mostly mobile phone vendors such as O2, Orange, Vodafone etc, but also companies like Wotan, Total Multiserver etc) before they release the generic versions on SEUS so that they can get it tested on many real-world networks by the mobile phone companies and discover any bugs that might arise due to the environment the phone is living in. This can prevent embarrasing mistakes such as R1J on the K750.

Companies like Wotan and Total Multiserver have access to these firmwares during the 'external' test phase and release them to us as users for money.

Personally I would not use such a service just to get a firmware slightly earlier than I normally would. However, I would (and have) used the service to:

a) Debrand phones. SEUS will put branded firmware onto a branded phone, but you are free to do what you like when using third aprty companies.
b) Remove network locks if you want to change network
c) Update your firmware if your vendor does not keep up to date with SE releases and you are experiencing a problem with your current firmware.
d) Interchanging phones that are physically the same - e.g. converting a K750 to a W800.

Hope this makes things clear,

Mike

Posted by baste07
an news about the new FW for k800?

Posted by alandigby
nope

Posted by obentou
No prob, SirHack.

Really looking forward to the firmware release this week! I keep getting those darned bugged alarms that don't go off.

Posted by baste07
yeah. want to try to use the OTA update service =)

but so far i haven't found anything wrong from my normal usage of the phone.

Posted by jadler
Quote:

On 2006-09-20 01:13:02, baste07 wrote:
Quote:

On 2006-09-19 02:45:02, senninha wrote:
for those on the new firmware, in the main file manager screen can you now use the keypad to access the various folders like in earlier models or do you still have to use the joystick? thanks.



i'd like to know the answer to this one too.



Not sure how it worked in earlier models, but on my K800i R1ED001 Europe 4 I am not able to navigate in the file manager with the keypad, only the joystick. Using the keypad does not work as it does in the address book, it does get interpreted as letters, but I do not see any correlation between the letter entered/key pressed and the file I get sent to.

Posted by maldus
the keypad didn work in the file manager for me in my K790i with the earliest fw R1CC003
it doesnt work in the upgrade R1CG001 either
but it works fine on the menu page i.e. the 12display page

Posted by sielski666
thought some one sed that the update wud be on seus now
?

Posted by markgibson77
I updated the software on my K800i (orange branded) to R1ED001, the update went fine and most of the orange stuff has gone!

One orange thing left, when I press the home key it takes me to the orange home page?

However… I can’t use my Vodafone SIM in the phone? Has the phone not been de-branded correctly? Have I done something wrong?


Posted by Spawn
Quote:

On 2006-09-21 13:26:40, markgibson77 wrote:
I updated the software on my K800i (orange branded) to R1ED001, the update went fine and most of the orange stuff has gone!

One orange thing left, when I press the home key it takes me to the orange home page?

However… I can’t use my Vodafone SIM in the phone? Has the phone not been de-branded correctly? Have I done something wrong?




No just means your phone is locked only to orange and no other networks .


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