Posted by Krubach
Yes. There are many "divers" not only in Portugal.
I agree it was a penalty when Ricardo hit Henry, but also when Sagnol put his arm in front of Ronaldo.
Vieira didn't see one single yellow card, allowing him to continue to make his hard tackles.
Glad that someone is happy besides the French. Sad to see that people need to hold to other nation's victory like it was their own.
Congratulations for your below-4th-who-knows-how-deep place.
Congrats to Portugal, let's beat the germans!!!
Posted by haynesycop
They have a system in rugby were the referee is allowed to see video evidence in order to distinguish whether a try should be given right? Well the same kind of system in football would be good.
I can understand why it has not been implented as it would disrupt the flow of the game somewhat but something like that would be good.
Posted by Xugaa
what??? another example of your sickness...it was clearly a fault, at least normall football rules, not your special rules, the ones that also alow testicle spanking, and penalize winking
Gees Arez, your English is has been slumping a lot lately, for I wasn't aware that I was sick or ill. I mean damn I was under the impression that despite a slight bit of hayfever this summer, I was quite on top of the world. My special rules - testicle spanking and winking, cor blimey Arez, what the hell do you get up to at home, damn. My rules are the rules, a jump is a jump.
Some of you are really a bunch of sad loosers, and we will wait eagerly for next time we meet in 2008, to send you home again...keep believing it was Ronaldo that sent you home this time ROTFl
He he he... yeah if you say so, the reality of it is that you and your little Portugal are the sad loosers, try watching the end of the game against France again mate, you might just spot something. You didn't see our players, manager or coaches complaining did we now, nope.
Now zip it my Portugese chum!
@ Leeboy...
Typical British attitude, you condemn your self fellow Welsh lad lol
he he he
Posted by slattery69
fifa are going to have to do something as i noticed last night that the more portugal went to ground easy the more the french started to do it.
if that contiunes then football is just gonna end of been un watchable.
there are cheats in every team so it needs to be a blanket attack across the board by fifa
Posted by Krubach
Oh... and about the booing.
There were many engalnd fans that thought that England would beat Portugal so they bought tickets to the semi-final.
But the animosity against Ronaldo, created by the british media did the rest.
Posted by leeboy13
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that i do mate... we are a nation of moaners.... proven by the hatered shown towards a man who was stamped on
(ronaldo for all you 'still-asleep' this morning') 
Posted by Xugaa
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Yeah thats right. FIFA have come on to that slightly though, although a referee cannot himself have access to a tv or replays as this would disrupt the flow of the game too much, the 4th official is at all times watching a tv as well and can and should influence/advice a referee's decisons via the little headsets they are wearing, also the linesman can talk to the referee via this as well.
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i agree miss C, but the thing is, isnt teh game already being disrupted by divers.... what i mean is it may be hard at first anfd the game will stop, but when players learn that they will have to watch the game rather than play if they keep this diving up i reckon most will stop it... and the ones who dont... get banned / sent off..
I do understand about affecting the flow of teh game tho
Posted by ares
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He he he... yeah if you say so, the reality of it is that you and your little Portugal are the sad loosers, try watching the end of the game against |
First, you should remember english players declarations after the game, almost blaming Ronaldo for the defeat, like all the other retarded
Of course Sven didn´t do it, but its easy to understand why
Portugal´s press and fans (not talking about Scolari) aren´t:
Demonizing any France player or the ref
Threatning the ref
Saying Portugal loose because of ref or some guys wink - mind you, i´m talking about fans and press, not Scolari
Comentators in tv aren´t dumb like Shearer and others making completly biased coments agains France
Turning "italian" like some of you turned french
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We sure won´t be making a party if Italy wins, like it was our own, like some of you did - we´re not pathetic like that
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Posted by Xugaa
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Well anyone who goes to a World Cup tends to buy tickets in packs, to see multiple games even when their team isn't playing. It was quite nice to see a Hull City flag hanging up at the Portugal vs France game last night lol
I've also seen a Taunton/England and Bristol City/England flag in the games, both places close to me, I do my shopping in Taunton lol.
Posted by slattery69
it wont matter where its in game or after game as long as the ban is lengthy then player s will soon get the msg and stop diving.
as for been a bitter loser i been english have no problem with portugal knocking us out they won the game on penalties and i ve no issue with that. as for rooneys sending off i can see why the ref did it, also if he d have given him a yellow i could have understood it.
Posted by ares
And to end this:
We accept the defeat, but we could got a better result
Most of our forwards suck
I didn´t like diving yesterday from both teams, and specially from stupid Postiga
Ronaldo made a GREAT game, and next season i´m sure he will have a great performance - i do hope i gets to a place far from fake-fair-play land (not all are like that, but like with hooliganism, the good people are affected by the retarded)
We are one of the best teams of world, and the quantity and quality of the new young players we have will allow us to perform great in next tournments
Posted by slattery69
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could nt agree more your forwards are very poor (or the ones selected anyway) your defence and midfield are very good but the final third you were very poor. didnt really understand why scolari took pauleta off and put ronaldo up front on his own seemed strange to me since hes not a natural goal scorer.
as for him leaving the the premiership i think it would be a good move for him hes not suited to the premier league and he s not developed as a player in my opinion in fact his decsison making is still very self centred. the pace and phsycality of the premier league doesnt suit him either, spain would be a far better league for him esp at a smaller team were he can be a big fish in a little pond which i believe would suit his ego better
Posted by ares
He just needs a good manager to become one of the 3 best players in the world
Capelo at RM can do it
Posted by Xugaa
Thought you'd gone...
First, you should remember english players declarations after the game, almost blaming Ronaldo for the defeat, like all the other retarded
Nope? English players were not, I repeat did not blame the defeat at all on Ronaldo, Portugal or the referee. England and its fans like myself know that the defeat came from some not fully efficient decisions from Sven and players not living up to their potential in certain areas of the field. Also the loss of Owen and Rooney part way through the match dealt a blow. Also your use of the word retarded could be seen as offensive to many, ecspecially thsoe who actually are disabled.
Demonizing any France player or the ref
Your point? Who else is...?
Threatning the ref
Your point? Who else is...?
Saying Portugal loose because of ref or some guys wink - mind you, i´m talking about fans and press, not Scolari
o_O And that means?! WTF
Comentators in tv aren´t dumb like Shearer and others making completly biased coments agains France
Hmmm, nope. Nothing like that happened I'm afraid my friend, providing you are not a child (I assume not?), you could try adult English learning courses...
http://www.britishcouncil.org/portugal-ingles-coimbra-adultos.htm - looks quite good and is based in Coimbra. Try looking on Google, you'll be surprised at what you can find.
Turning "italian" like some of you turned french
O-k...?! o_O
We sure won´t be making a party if Italy wins, like it was our own, like some of you did - we´re not pathetic like that
We do that? You know your arguements are crap and make no sense. Truely you are the pathetic one, not the rest of Portugal... but YOU.
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Damn you make me laugh lmao
Posted by ares
Yeah, english isn´t my main language...its one of my second languages like spanish and french...so sometimes i can´t express properly
But i think decent people understand what i said
Far worse is being english and using the language for saying rubbish and looking retarded all the time
You also made me and many others laugh...your posts are up there in the xenophonia, hypocrisy, racism and bad loosing scale, and should be showed to kids has an example to what you can become without a proper education
Posted by Krubach
Always mocking about people's english skills.
If you're so smart why don't you go apanhar no cu palhaço.
Foda-se, já um vez me chateie com este caralho fihla da puta!
If you didn't understand, you can check this:
http://www.learn4good.com/gre[....]ortuguese_language_classes.htm
Or, easier, ask any portuguese or brazilian friend...
Posted by slattery69
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i think that might be a stretch for ronaldo to be one of the best 3 players in the world. first and foremost he needs to understand its a team game and its not the ronaldo show.
though i take your point a good manager might bring a team ethic to his play
Posted by Krubach
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If you think a bit, "best players in the world" are considered as such exactly because they can do amazing things all by themselves.
Not that i approve it.
Posted by ares
@slattery69, he was far worse when younger and playing in Sporting Lisbon...Sir Alex already made some nice work, but he can improve much more
He has speed, physical strengh, pass, dribble, he kicks good with foot and head...he has almost everything, less a bit more team play attitude
When he masters all that, he will be one of the top players
Figo was a bit like that untill he reached 23-24...then he exploded
Posted by slattery69
i cant remeber to muh about him from sporting, but since he s gone to man u i ve not seen to much improvment.
he still does nt see the passes or players in space he very one dimension head down run and shot.
yes individual skill is important but so team play, i agree he s good in the air and yes he s two footed a big asset for a winger but his crossing his very hit and miss and for a winger crossing should be a big part of of your arsenal.time will tell i think if he changes his attitude and puts the work in he could become a great player but from what ive seen so far he ll never be fit to lace figos boots
Posted by Xugaa
Arez Contradicting Himself
"anyway, i´m done here, i´ll coment after the next games"
Oh know wait he's back again.
"and to end this..."
Gone, oh know still here.
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Arez Being Racist and Predujice
He says I'm racist... erm where?
"Far worse is being english and using the language for saying rubbish and looking retarded all the time"
So not only is he anti-English, but also according to Arez all the English are retarded (disabled), the English only speak rubbish and of course his racism, predujice and Neo Nazi attitude towards disabled/handycapped people.
Who's the racist one now?!
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Arez's Poor Psychic Abilities
He seems to want to be or is a very poor psychic, trying at every moment he gets to try and show off his poor and pathetic ability to read the future, failing every time.
"You also made me and many others laugh"
I did? You sure...?
"You´d find the ref´s phone and threat his family"
I would? Not like me at all...?
"If it was Ronaldo, doing what Henry did against England, you´d say it was cheat"
Really? Wow, we learn something new about our selves every day! NOT
"Yeah righ, if it was Portugal wastying time like that, you´d call that cheat"
Really Arez? Try another job, your physic abilities just aren't up to scratch to be a top psychic are they... Sorry to destroy your hopes and dreams there mate. Maybe you could try being a witch doctor though.
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Arez Had A Bad Time At School... aww
Along with his poor literacy and language skills, Arez spends his days trting but failing to invent and create stories that only he dreamt and tries bring themto life right here on Esato.
"should be showed to kids has an example to what you can become without a proper education"
Everyone in England is stupid apparently...? Well since the UK has the 4th best education system in the world, and Portugal are way down at 15th, kind of saying something about yourself Arez isn't it.
"decent people"
Who are you to say whether people you have never met, live in a completely different country and don't know anything whatsoever about are decent or not?
"Yeah, english isn´t my main language...its one of my second languages like spanish and french...so sometimes i can´t express properly"
Finally something Arez has admitted, gone on you lad and well done, keep it up. Though bare what you said in mind for net time you try to pass a crap arguement or comment based on complete and utter shite.
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Arez is unfortunately unable to refrain from pasing false facts and opinions...
Way too many and can't be arsed to collect a few hundered.
READ before you COMMENT Arez.
Posted by Krubach
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Oh Krubach, don't get me wrong I'm not mocking his English abilities, I'm trying to help him after all. I speak English on an 'English' forum and if he or anybody else wishes to make a comment or post at all, which he is very welcome to do so, then he like every body else should respect the fact that this is an 'English' speaking forum, and so should speak English. I admit that I cannot speak Portugese but can some other languages, though I would respect a 'Portugese' forum a speak Portugese to the best of my abilities, being unable to do so I would therefore not try to post in a Portugese forum.
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Posted by Xugaa
I'm a whore and an arse clown now am I...?
Oh dear, I guess It will never stop from these two then.
Posted by goldenface
I think some people on here should tone things down a bit, we are all friends here after all.
The tournament is almost over, surely if the players can shake hands after a game then we can
Peace.
Posted by Krubach
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Oh Krubach, don't get me wrong, I'm not mocking his English abilities, I'm trying to help him after all. I speak English on an 'English' forum and if he or anybody else wishes to make a comment or post at all, which he is very welcome to do so, then he, like every body else, should respect the fact that this is an 'English' speaking forum, and so should speak English. I admit that I cannot speak Portuguese but can some other languages, though I would respect a 'Portuguese' forum and speak Portuguese to the best of my abilities, being unable to do so I would therefore not try to post in a Portuguese forum.
Using a translator to understand portuguese can lead to incorrect results.
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Posted by leeboy13
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Very well said mate
Posted by Xugaa
This is a forum - a forum is for in-formal chatting and discussing as you would in person. Sorry for my slight typo's and miss use of punctuation but that shouldn't really matter considering where we are posting. If your doing this because of what I said about Arez, thats completely different since it was sometimes, not always, but sometimes hard to work out what he was trying to say and argue, so it was hard to reply. Not that there's anthing wrong with that though, just that he nor you should become rude when communication becomes poor.
Yes I tried a translator to try and see what you were saying, which I assumed were uncalled for and unprovoked insults, in turns out that although the translation was not completely correct (they never are lol), that my prediction was in fact correct.
Now you and Arez should really calm down now, both our teams are out and there is still much more room to discuss and talk about both England and Portugal and also the rest of the World Cup. Lets not ruin it by contaminating a great thread with hatred and cruel words.
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Posted by Krubach
My last post in this thread:
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Sure you can remember refering to my "stupidity" a few pages back (just to mention one unprovoked insult).
Posted by Xugaa
I said that you were being stupid because of certain things that were happening, not that you are a stupid person but your actions were stupid, so not an insult and definately not unprovoked.
Read my post before this, the bit I added and try to follow it, thanks.
I really do hope that all hostility between you, me and Arez will soon be gone, because like you (I hope) this is not what I want to come on Esato for and nor should you or Arez...
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Posted by ares
i don´t like people with two faces...you´re attitudes are unnaceptable and childish, you forget all came from you, after the game with Portugal - go there and read what you wrote - it alows anyone to make your profile quite fast
there´s a big difference between you and most other english people that came to this thread
i´m sorry but i won´t be able to face someone like you the same way anymore, i just don´t like to see my words subverted over and over
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Posted by Residentevil
People are starving and dying all over the world at this very moment and you get all upset about that your team lost. Put that into perspective guys.
Posted by Xugaa
Edited for the peace...
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Posted by Xugaa
Elizondo Chosen As Cup Final Referee
Referee Horacio Elizondo, who sent off England striker Wayne Rooney against Portugal, will take charge of the World Cup final between Italy and France.
Supporters Hijack Ronaldo Vote
A concerted email campaign by England fans could rob Ronaldo of the World Cup's best young player award.
Zidane In Running For Golden Ball
Zinedine Zidane is among the nominees for Fifa's prestigious Golden Ball award, given to the most valuable player at the 2006 World Cup.
Fifa To Decide Rooney Punishment
Fifa's disciplinary chiefs will meet on Thursday to consider how long a ban England striker Wayne Rooney must serve for his red card against Portugal.
Ronaldo Defiant After Crowd Abuse
Portugal winger Cristiano Ronaldo said he was "pleased" by the vitriolic reaction to his every touch in the World Cup semi-final loss to France.
THE FINAL
Italy v France
Berlin
Sunday, 9 July
Kick-off: 1900 BST
Italy defender Alessandro Nesta has been ruled out of the World Cup final in Berlin because of a groin injury.
THIRD PLACE FINAL
Germany v Portugal
Stuttgart
Saturday, 8 July
Kick-off: 2000 BST
German striker Miroslav Klose, the World Cup's top scorer, is a doubt for Jurgen Klinsmann's side in the third place play-off with a calf problem.
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Posted by xdavex
Well who cares, England are out and so are Portugal. Ronaldo cried! (hooray!) and got boo'ed everytime he touched the ball
Now, lets count down to Austria!
Oh yeah, FORZA ITALIA !
Posted by Xugaa
Austria?!
Why Austria mate?
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Posted by Xugaa
There's not much to read at the moment, but I think this is going to be great!
http://www.fifa.com/en/worldc[....]2010,00.html?comp=WF&year=2010
Posted by xdavex
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Austria 2008 Euro
Posted by Xugaa
Ah yes of course, forgot about Euro lol.
Also don't forget 2010 South Africa...!
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Man I love sport lol.
Posted by xdavex
Yeah, i'm gonna try and get tickets or at least goto Austria. Not so sure about South Africa tho!
Posted by Residentevil
I will watch the two games this weekend.
Posted by P.I.M.P
I never thought that Frans wil be where they are now, coz if u look back how they started u wont blieve. Well i think this worldcup was 4 the underdogs. Italy was not my favourate either bt they suprised me
Posted by Xugaa
Podolski beats Ronaldo to award
Germany striker Lukas Podolski has won the Fifa young player of the World Cup award, beating off competition from Portugal winger Cristiano Ronaldo.
Klinsmann dismisses USA job link
Germany coach Jurgen Klinsmann pleaded not to be put under pressure to decide his future - as he played down claims he is a target for the United States.
Terry makes Fifa World Cup squad
Chelsea defender John Terry is the only England player to have made it into the World Cup squad of the tournament.
Posted by Residentevil
At least we can book one victory.
Posted by Xugaa
Yeah well done Germany!
GERMANY 3 - 1 PORTUGAL
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/[....]all/world_cup_2006/4991644.stm
"A great second-half display from Germany as Schweinsteiger breathed life into this encounter and helped the hosts to finish in third place, their best showing in the FIFA World Cup since lifting the Trophy in 1990. Portugal were unable to equal their feat of finishing third 40 years ago, but Figo served up a piece of magic in his final international appearance, as his inch-perfect cross provided the ammunition for Nuno Gomes' goal."
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Posted by gareb
Congrats Germany
Posted by Residentevil
We showed them who is boss.
Posted by dicky
what was Zidane thinking!? what an idiot
Posted by Evil Eye
oh man! he got red card.
anyways end of his career.