Posted by axxxr
Work has finally begun on the World Trade Center site of the Freedom Tower.
msnbc article
Posted by fatreg
oooooh an even bigger target for terrorists!
will America ever learn?
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Posted by BobaFett
beautiful...
Posted by kk.226
Will miss those twin towers, I was right at the top of them exactly 2 weeks before they fell...
Hope nothing goes wrong with these.
Posted by EastCoastStar
i have seen them before and after they fell...
i have MANY pictures of ground zero... if anyone wants to see them, i will be glad to show you. (my personal pictures)
Posted by kk.226
Yeah i've since been to ground zero twice, the first time it felt really akward and eerie, espcially after being there firsthand to see the huge towers there, and then they're gone. Wasn't a good feeling.
Posted by *Jojo*
I hope this one will be CRASH proof . . . and have FLARES just in case that a fighter jet will hit it with it's missiles
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Posted by kk.226
Yes, clearly Flares will prevent any damaged from missiles.
Posted by scapevlocity
got goosebumps after looking at the pics.
yeah, i feel for ya. used to hang out at the children's section of Borders there all the time whenever i'd check out the gadgets over at J&R. i remember way back when... the area was always bustling with people. most days it feels eerie over there - even a few blocks away. now there aren't as many people, but i think that's slowly turning around.
Posted by EastCoastStar
im gonna get going soon, should i post my pics here now or later?
Posted by Sammy_boy
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I think it's a symbol of defiance this building, building it taller and saying 'we're not scared of you'
Though calling it the 'Freedom Tower' is a bit corny!
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Posted by Sammy_boy
@ECS, yes, I'd like to see you pictures, if Axxxr doesn't mind them being posted here, or perhaps start a new thread for it, and make sure you state you don't want people debating/arguing/flaming in the thread!
Posted by axxxr
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Yeh sure go ahead post them if you wish...i'd like to see them aswell.
Posted by scotsboyuk
One of the most striking features of Ground Zero was the relative quiet. Manhattan is awash with noise and bustle, but one notices the change in atmosphere at Ground Zero. It was really just a big hole in the ground when I was there, most of the clearing work had already been done. The girders in the shape of a cross was one of the only reminders that two massive buildings had once stood there.
In the Village there is an informal memorial to 9/11 with people posting pictures and messages on a wall. We were on a tour at the time and so we whizzed right past it, but I would have liked to have gone up and read the messages and look at the photos.
Posted by axxxr
I would have prefered two new towers instead of just the one...I think the new york skyline just isn't the same with just one.
Posted by scotsboyuk
@axxxr
Whether it be one or two towers I think they should have committed to building a much larger building(s), perhaps the tallest in the world.
Posted by Xugaa
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indeed... beautiful
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Posted by Xugaa
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i'm not american but i was quite offended by that conspiracy crap!
Posted by BobaFett
@xugaa sorry, i ment it on a sarcastic way...
Posted by Xugaa
lol ok, well i'm agreeing with your sarcasm in a 'really' kinda way
ah well, i like it.
Posted by carkitter
I like the design of that 'Freedom Tower' but I reckon it's cheating to include such a tall mast in the height when going for the Worlds Tallest Building record.
The original WTC site had 7 buildings on it. Will the new site have only 1?
Posted by p900 lover
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i dont think it will ever be the same, even if they built 2 towers.
btw any1 know when this is due to be finished?
Posted by kiwifly
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hoooooo! the only aim of rebuilding is for the much bigger attack:-)
Posted by EastCoastStar
here are the pictures i have personally taken. if i have a description, it is under each image. let me know what you think.
This picture is actually the building NEXT TO (it was to the left, if you were stanging at the front of the buildings) where it happened. it damaged the building, so they had to re-do parts of it.
The same building, with a little bit of Ground Zero
This is the bulding to the right. See the Cross? also?
A better view of that cross. It was left standing. the only thing left standing. i dont know if it was natural, or if they cut it or whatever, but i thought it wsa kinda cool.
Me and my sister standing in front of it. They have it all blocked off really well.
A sign in front 
A sign on the fence, and you can see part of GZ (ground zero).
GZ...
GZ again...
and again...
and thats all i have... i KNOW i have more, i just have to come across them. those are the best pics i could get, they were kind of tough to get while i was there. and dont ask about the names of the images, becuase i didnt rename them, my friend did and he didnt know what they were at the time.
p.s. mods, if this is too many pics, let me know and i will just post links. thanks!!
mods again, the pictures are huge, should i load them to esato????
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Posted by axxxr
Work to build a skyscraper on the site of Ground Zero took a step forward with the erection of two steel columns.
The 25-ton columns -- one of which bears the signatures of American workers who helped make it -- mark a milestone in efforts to replace the twin towers of the World Trade Centre in New York.
As construction workers, politicians and architects applauded, a massive crane lifted the first, 31ft-high column, which was painted with an American flag and the words "Freedom Tower," and set it over steel bars on the southern edge of the tower's base.
A second column set a few feet away carried the signatures of steelworkers and politicians from Virginia, where it spent time at a steel company before being shipped to New York.
A third column lay on its side, plastered with signatures of New Yorkers and September 11 victims' relatives as well as pictures of some firefighters killed in the 2001 attack. It will be installed in the next few days.
By next spring, 27 of the jumbo steel columns will anchor the skyscraper and rise to street level -- about 70 feet (21 metres) from the bottom of ground zero.
"Today the steel rises, the Freedom Tower rises from the ashes of September 11, and the people of New York and the people of America can be proud," Governor George Pataki said.
The 1,776-foot (532.8-metre) tower, set to open in 2011, is to be the tallest of the five skyscrapers planned to replace the trade centre.
"Rising from the heart of the World Trade Centre site, the Freedom Tower will symbolise the spirit of our city and our nation: inspiring, soaring and undefeated," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said.
The tower has had more than one design and groundbreaking; politicians laid a granite cornerstone in July 2004 to begin construction, but had to move the building after city police said it was too close to traffic, making it vulnerable to terrorism.
Posted by goldenface
I think the Freedom Tower is a good monument to freedom and liberty. 1776 ft tall. I will be making sure I visit this one after its built.
Posted by Johnex
hopefully not to witness another terror attack.
Posted by Xugaa
I don't really think that competing for the tallest building in the world was really the idea, rather a brighter and taller tower to show that we don't give in to terroists, hence the 'freedom' tower...
Posted by amnesia
I think the tower looks very nice.
I don't like the name though.
Posted by Xugaa
^ Why not? Makes sense I think...
Posted by goldenface
I thnk the name is very apt. America has a lot to do with freedom - originally it was freedom from colonial rule (The Brits).
All in all I think the towers are magnificent. Were they not designed by the british architect - Norman Foster? Or am I mistaken?
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Posted by leeboy13
you will find it was: Daniel Libeskind matey
Posted by goldenface
Thanks for that Leeboy. I know Norman Foster was in the running for it.
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Posted by axxxr
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I agree!
What there should have called it is "Silverstein Towers" after Larry Silverstein.
Although i'd like to Visit this building when its ready,i think it would make me feel very uncomfortable.
Posted by Xugaa
Yeah, but the name I think aims to represent and mark rising above the terrible terroist events of 9/11, and so 'freedom' makes sense...
But also yes, America likes to show its independance and freedom. Even if they are really Brits but won't admit it lol.
Posted by axxxr
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Self inflicted,not terrorists......I think a lot of people will never see this building as the "Freedom Tower"..i certainly won't! ...thousands of innocent people have died on that spot and many more because of it..."Freedom" is the wrong name for it!
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Quite true!
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