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Posted by axxxr
Why are UMD's called (Universal Media Disks),when they can only be played on PSP's?..till date there has been no other device on the market for which to play these on,no suprise then that,most hollywood studios are cutting back on all future film releases on this format..sometimes i think sony lives its own little bubble and does'nt realise whats going on outside...All sony has to do is to open up this format to other players and recording devices for it to be a success...or maybe they should just change the name to PSPONRMD (PSP ONLY NON-RECORDABLE MEDIA DISK!

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Posted by Gigs
Or maybe it accepts all kinds of data too .. hence universal

ZIP disks after all didn't have a zip on them or come with WinZip.



Posted by axxxr
So whats the point of having the ability of storing different types of data and yet only be able to use one form of that data in only one type of device...don't make sense?

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Posted by Vein
Apparently Sony are to start making media devices such as DVD Players but UMD Players or an integration of both.

Just a wild guess but why else call it UMD ?

Posted by jagger2k
lol, what a random post.

Posted by axxxr
Vein: It would be nice if sony did make umd integrated dvd players or stand alone ones....i dont see the point of spending £20 on a umd movie then only to be able to watch it on my psp...if sony wants longevity in this format its going to have to open up the format a whole lot more.

Posted by Vein
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On 2006-02-17 01:10:28, axxxr wrote:
Vein: It would be nice if sony did make umd integrated dvd players or stand alone ones....i dont see the point of spending £20 on a umd movie then only to be able to watch it on my psp...if sony wants longevity in this format its going to have to open up the format a whole lot more.




Haha neither do I. I get the ones that are £7.99

But yeah, Im sure they'll integrate UMD into new things soon.

Posted by kk.226
I don't get either, just use software to put them on my Memory card from the DVD

Posted by joebmc
Sony should make an adapter which lets you plug your psp into your tv, that way you can use the psp as a stand alone umd player.

Posted by masseur
it looks like a bit of a beast but check this out

http://www.pspontv.com/



Posted by axxxr
Thats huge....looks like that monolith from 2001 a space oddessy!

Posted by Vein
Yeah I don't see why it needs to be that big :S

Posted by SCORPIONKING1982
I just find it easier and cheaper to buy the dvd, rip and convert it. that way i can watch my dvd on tv or pc and use the rip on my psp, no disks to carry round and worry about losing!

I think sony would have been better off offering videos to download a la video ipod.
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Posted by amnesia
because it actually is a mini video recorder. (little camera inside)


I wish there was a UMD writer, that'd be awesome


Posted by axxxr
a UMD writer would truly add the \"UNIVERSAL\" into the UMD.....don't think sony are listening though.

Posted by Rocky B.
Sony's own little pet standard isn't going to last much longer unless they open it up, that's for sure.

Posted by axxxr
I really love this format ....has so much potential,hate to see it end up like the Minidisk or Betamax.

Posted by zMastaa
problem is, that UMD'Rs would cause too much piracy for sony to "tolerate"

Posted by Vein
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On 2006-02-18 23:14:38, zMastaa wrote:
problem is, that UMD'Rs would cause too much piracy for sony to "tolerate"




Charging extortionate prices for them would stop that

Posted by Vein
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Media_Disc

Gives alot of info on the UMDs!

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Unlike the Minidisc, another proprietary format developed by Sony, blank media will not be commercially available in order to block customers from making UMD copies of their current DVDs. This tactic is used to encourage customers to buy UMDs of movies they already own. However, there has been recent profit from licensing fees.



Posted by max_wedge
Sony completely lost the edge (and the plot) in the digital player market by refusing to open up minidisc players to the mp3 format. How did they even start to think that they could limit the success of mp3 players by refusing to support the mp3 standard on their own digital players? Did Sony really think other manufacturers would rush to license atrac and minidisc technology (like sharp did with their version of minidisc players), when they could produce mp3 players much cheaper?

Ipod then came along and stole their lead in the portable digital music market. Will Sony never learn?

Posted by Gigs
So that has what to do with the PSP using UMD?

Propriotary formats aren't Sony's exclusive domain alone. Nintendo for years have done what sony are doing, they would be the ONLY one that manufacturered and put the data onto their catridges. Developers would have to send it to them.

Sony kinda have an advantage though when it comes to content, from their own libraries and aquisitions alone they can put out a pretty formiddable list of titles.

On their whole not using MP3 thing on players, sure, bad move, seems to be helping cure that, but thats a whole different issue

Posted by deluded
Exactly how much storage space does the umd have anyway? I don't really see the point of making the umd popular as a storage device since there're plenty of alternatives available. What do you guys think?

Posted by max_wedge
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On 2006-02-23 02:18:49, Gigs wrote:
So that has what to do with the PSP using UMD?

Propriotary formats aren't Sony's exclusive domain alone. Nintendo for years have done what sony are doing, they would be the ONLY one that manufacturered and put the data onto their catridges. Developers would have to send it to them.

Sony kinda have an advantage though when it comes to content, from their own libraries and aquisitions alone they can put out a pretty formiddable list of titles.

On their whole not using MP3 thing on players, sure, bad move, seems to be helping cure that, but thats a whole different issue



Actually gigs it has a lot to do with it. It's an example of Sony's proprietary nature limiting their own market. The MP3 debacle is a direct and relevant example to what is being discussed here.

Besides, I'm not the one who brought up the issue of proprietary, I was just responding with my opinion. Infact, the UMD has many similarities to the minidisc in both form factor, DRM approach and marketing. I fail to see how my post was not relevant to this discussion.


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