Posted by masseur
sent my V3i back to Expansys and got an O2 8800 today.
taking the phone out of the box it felt heavy and solid but with good quality. In the box is 2 batteries, a mains adaptor, a desk stand which accomodates the phone and the spare battery, a headset, cd rom with the pc suite and the manual and a leaflet describing the 8800.
after charging the phone tonight I've started to play and of course the first thing I wanted to do was to sync my outlook data.
The pc suite installed perfectly then came the realisation... how was I going to connect the phone to my pc
a quick look led me to believe there was no infra red and in the box there was no USB cable supplied! fortunately my vaio laptop has bluetooth so I was lucky but I bet this has caught a few people out.
The sync settings was straight forward and the sync completed effortlessly except that it seems I get a memory full message when trying to sync a years worth of calendar and all my contacts.
thats where I'm up to right now so here are a few quick pics
I guess I can sort of see why people like the styling but I'll need a day or two going through the functionality before deciding any more about this phone
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Posted by p900 lover
Did you get it on the £19 pm o2 tariff?
Posted by masseur
yeah, £19 for 12 months
I've switched my kids from vodafone to o2 and this sim is to switch my wife though I'll be staying on Vodafone.
Got £35 cashback too as I use quidco whenever possible
Posted by loyal2thegame
@masseur
Didn't you manage to get one for £300 from play.com when they had that crazy offer...or was that someone else?
Posted by masseur
I waited 2 weeks and then inquired where it was as my order still said waiting for stock, but when I called they decided they were out of stock and cancelled my order
Posted by marlonski
@masseur it will be interesting to get your views once you have had a chance to play with the phone a little, (like the blue neon on the desktop charger).
I actually like the phone's weight and finish, IMO it has a nice quality feel about it.
I will also interesting to read what you think of the camera with it's SVGA 800x600 pixel capability.
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Posted by loyal2thegame
hmmm that's out of order on their part...surely they've messed up as a contract existed between you and play.com, even though they probably didn't take money out of ur account, they initially agreed to supply you with the phone so they shouldn't be able to just cancel your order (i.e. go back on their word)...just a thought.
Posted by masseur
a couple of pics from the camera, my usual diet coke can
the second is not too bad. I'll do some daylight ones tomorrow, and some video
first is with night mode off
and the second with night mode on
@loyal2thgame, in their confirmation email it links to their terms and conditions where it seems in point 5 the contract begins when they take payment. I decided there was no point in hassling over it
Posted by loyal2thegame
yeh it would be a lot of hassle especially with their terms and conditions and their interpretation of what "acceptance" is.
Anyway the phone looks sweet, i love the subtle blue light surrounding the desktop charger...class.
Posted by Dicky Snapples
ive had my 8800 for around 6 days now. its not the best phone features wise,but i love the styling and feel of the phone.The charging dock is cool,although it makes a funny noise when its plugged into a charger(same kind of noise a disposable camera makes when you hit the flash button.)
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Posted by axxxr
I don't like this phone one little bit,nice build but thats where ends for me..don't know what people see in this very badly designed handset?..I thought Nokia would do something special after the excellent 8850/90 but no the series has lost its appeal now,unless nokia bring out a better line of 8800 series phones.
Posted by fatreg
Did i hear correctly that you cant change the in call volume on the 8800?
fatreg
Posted by masseur
right well I'm on the train having grabbed the 8800 and the headset on my way out the door. I like to listen to the radio on my journey to the office.
I am miffed to find that not only do they not supply a data cable but the headset is a single ear headset only so no way am I going to use the 8800 for my radio listening pleasure with that. Thankfully I have my trusty K750 with me!
If I had paid sim free prices of over 500 pounds for this only to find missing items as basic as these I would be very very upset
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Posted by masseur
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no thats not correct. While in a call you can use the left and right buttons on the joypad to change the in call volume
Posted by marlonski
@masseur, when you get the chance would you take a picture or two outside in daylight so I can see how the 8800 performs ?
Posted by masseur
I tried to get out for a walk a couple of times today but its was a right miserable day in London with rain most of the time
so, here are a couple of pics of the foyer of the building I work in and the street outside. actually not too bad for snapshots taken at SVGA resolution
Posted by masseur
interesting to see that Expansys have the 8910i as their "special of the day" reduced from £284.95 to just £249.95.
its amazing that that phone (the 8800 predecessor I guess) is still such a high priced phone!
I wonder if the 8800 will keep its value like that too!
Posted by loyal2thegame
yeh it probably will keep it's value I mean even second hand 8910i handsets are still quite expensive, especially those in good condition... I hope you've got insurance!
Posted by upper
Wow i no that building, its the BNP building on Harewood Avenue, right? anyways, massuer im surprised you gave back v31 back for the nokia 8800, im sure there was a time where you really wanted the v3i.
Posted by masseur
yeah, thats where I am currently contracting.
Well in the 3 weeks I had the V3i I used it maybe half a dozen times. It was never going to be my primary phone and I saw that prices were already falling quickly.
So I fugured I'd had my play and I would return it for a full refund and maybe get one in a few months when the prices are right down.
In the meantime I have the 8800 which may last with me a couple of weeks and then I plan to checkout the i-mate SP5 and by then the P990 will not be far away... and after that... who knows?
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i prefer the 8910i as its housing is titanium...
Posted by Scorchio
An interesting read Masseur. I'm not all that surprised at the down points you have listed.
Here in sunny viva los Ireland the 8800 is a cool 850EUR sim free. For this you get what I would classify as a girls jewellery accessory. No memory expansion (although 64mb isn't bad) no mega pixel camera and no data cable.
I wasn't that impressed with the key pad either. Its so bloody small. My fingers are just too fat and I need to use a special dialling wand:)
What bugs me the most tho, is the fact that it sounds like a zippo lighter when you open and close it yet it doesn't light cigarettes!
Posted by masseur
I also don't have fat fingers but still find myself using my finger nails.
There have been a couple of people in my office and also friends that have made the zippo comment
I'm coming to the conclusion that it is fairly stylish and does feel good in the hand too. I've been through most of the features and though by Nokia standards it seems to be basic I do feel it has most of what the average businessman (or celebrity perhaps) would want from such a fashion phone. I categorise it in those groups as so far businessmen and women are the only ones I have seen with it on my travels (except me and those on this forum), and certainly the price range suggests that too.
anyway, I'll give it another week and then move on to the next phone
Posted by EastCoastStar
@masseur, how does it feel in your hand? cheap plastic? good plastic? metal? is it built good?
Posted by masseur
its made of steel so it feels very strurdy. its smooth and the steel gives it a bit more weight than most other phones of this size so it dos feel like you have something in your hand
I still get surpised when people comment on "how heavy" it is because its 130-odd gramms compared to 80 or 90 gramms for the average phone this size and so I wouldn't class it as "heavy" myself. Its not like my arms are gonna get tired talking on this phone!
Posted by JonH
I had a 8800 when it first came out, and sold it shortly after.
After nearly 6 months I have bought another one, it's a rubbish phone really but it is so nice to hold and use that I put up with the low specs.
I def. will be keeping this one, I am really pleased I got another one.
Where is the p990!!!!!I need one NOW.
Posted by masseur
I wouldn't call it rubbish exactly. I can check mail on it, I can run java apps, I can play some pretty good games, it comes with an ok translator, a good converter, has the great nokia profiles that I remember etc etc etc... I really have never understood why people slag off Nokia so much. I still have my first Nokia, a 2110 and my last couple, an 8210 and an 8250
I too am somewhat hooked by the styling and having received my V3 back today from the colleague that I sold it to when I got my V3i (he decided it wasn't the phone for him and I was very very happy to give him his money back!) it places a very close second for me to the V3 which also is not the best functionality phone but has a certain je ne sais quoi
Posted by JonH
Same for me, I am a massive V3 fan and still have one. The biggest down for me with the V3 is not the UI but the fact that everyone seems to have one! Including 4 members of my family. Thats not gonna happen with the 8800 in a hurry.
I am a SE fan through and through, but there is nothing in there range at the moment (or the past year or so) that gives me the wow factor, so for the mean time I have chosen form over factor.
I can't wait to see the proper new version of the Razr when it comes. For me Motorola have the ability to make something so cool that I really don't care if its not got the best camera/memory/etc.
Posted by masseur
it seems we are of the same mind! well except for my K750 which I still think is the best that
have done so far
Posted by Coxy
Well I still like the V3, especially the silver. My uncles got a silver, my cusin a black, my aunte and other cusin pink and my cusins gfs pink, so theyre pretty popular with my family too.
But for me I prefer to have some great features, hence why I have a W900.
Posted by masseur
for great features, I have my k-jam. But I do like to have a couple other phones to toy with from time to time!
Posted by p900 lover
I really like the 8800, not ready to spend more than 300 for it, yet. lol
On a side note these are made in finland right?
What do u think the lowest price in £ a worker for nokia could get these for? Im only asking because my friend can get a really good deal on it and i want to know if the pirce is realistic.
Posted by marlonski
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@massuer, thanks for posting these, I have to say that they are pretty impressive, the svga camera performs very in daylight conditions
Posted by masseur
they were taken indoors, I forgot to post a few outdoors
yeah, it doesn't do a bad job given is relatively low resolution
this is the outside of the building I work in
a Fish shop and restaraunt just up the next road from the office
and a tree-lined street
Posted by marlonski
@masseur, even better !
Posted by (sc)chronos
8800 is a really nice looking phone, but it could have better features.
Posted by masseur
what features would you like to see on the 8800?
Posted by rockygali
forgive me for saying this but the cam results of 8800 is like an oil painting on canvass...
you sure you didnt twek on sumthing there... the edges are mixed up...
Posted by JiggyJaggy
Yes but thats in comparison to the 1/2MP camera phones that are available these days. The 8800 is a SVGA camera, purely for "fun", and thats what I have allways used it for.
Personally I wont give mine up for anything until the Aston Martin 8800 comes out
Posted by masseur
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nope. copied straight from phone to hard drive and then uploaded to Esato
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well, a better cam, s60 interface, more internal memory could have been added to the phone, an mms slot would be good.
Posted by JwY
i'll probably pick up one of these if i ever have the extra money
the simplicity makes it more timeless
i still have a 8890 i use from time to time
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, anyways back to the subject, nice pics by the way lol.
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Posted by masseur
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yeah, its called the SeaShell. I've promised to take my wife there soon for our "meeting anniversary" as she loves seafood (unfortunately I don't!)
anyway, back to the 8800. I find it strange that with the phone closed, I can press the power button which gives me a menu with "Switch off", various profiles, lock keypad etc but there is no way to scroll down or choose one of those options! There are two soft keys exposed when the phone is closed but neither does anything! I have to open the phone to scoll and select. weird! all I can do is press and hold the power button to turn off.
its also dissapointing that the radio channels and volume cannot be manipulated without actually going into the radio application. The K750/W800 has much better handling for that. Again, they could have utilised the two exposed soft keys to handle some of that!
I have also not found an adaptor that will let me use my Sony MDR-EX81SL headset with the 8800. Unfortunately the 3.5mm to 2.5mm adaptor that I use for my k-jam doesn't work in the Nokia. I had read that the 2.5mm socket was not standard, but I didn't believe it until I tried it. I gather this is the same for other Nokias too!?
but, still, I am liking the feel and handling in its role as secondary phone that I will be hanging onto it a bit longer yet...
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Posted by chrisfirst
That restaurant is only a couple of streets away from my place...LOL
Posted by masseur
right, well, I sold my 8800 a while back but recently I was thinking about getting another... and today I did
after one hour I am already wondering why did I do this to myself?
its a real love/hate relationship. The kind you sometimes get when you have a girlfriend that you want to see and then when you're with her, you can't wait to get away, and when you do get away you can't wait to see her again!
perhaps I should have listened to that old addage of once bitten, twice shy?
arrrggghhh!
well, I'll give it a few days I suppose...
can anyone explain this phenomenon? (about the 8800, not women, no one can explain them!)
Posted by JiggyJaggy
Why what was it you hate about the phone? I absolutley adore mine!
Posted by masseur
I think its the primativeness.
You can't even turn the camera on without navigating the menus, although you can set what one function the right soft key performs but I don't always want the camera, often I want the radio.
btw, I now have to buy another stereo headset for listening to the radio as I did last time as it only comes with a single piece headset!
like I said, I'll give it a few days and perhaps just treat it as I do my V3 which is just a smart looking phone with limited function compared to my other phones
Posted by SE-Naz
Ive actually considered purchasing another 8800.... Dont know why, just feel like having it in my hands again.... But I will probably think and wonder why I purchased it again....
Cause of you now ive decided that I will not be purcashing this phone unless I get a good deal on it.
Thanks for your help
Cheers
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Posted by rimmer5
Well if you do come to the conclusion that you want to sell it, give me a shout because im on the look out for one.