Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
Recently ive found it very hard to get to sleep at night, and I don't kow why. Last night I went to bed around 12, but couldnt get to sleep till sometime passed 3am uk time. And I wake around half 7, this means im just getting around 4 and a bit hours of sleep ever night. I dno't drink, smoke, do drugs or anything like that, and am in no phisical pain so I guess its a mental thing.
Anyone know how I can get to sleep eariler?
Cheers Luke
Posted by jagger2k
sleeping pills?
Posted by goldenface
I sometimes have the same problem. My mind is racing when trying to get to sleep. The trick is to set your mind to nice relaxing thoughts. Think of a pleasant journey you went on recently or read if you still can't sleep. :-)
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
don't really want to go that far
Posted by masseur
before considering pills or other things you put in your body, do you excercise? I always find I sleep soundly after a good work out
Posted by jagger2k
when you lay to go sleep, dont think about 101 things, just try to blank everything out and you will fall asleep.
Posted by batesie
exersize. go out for a bike ride/run/swim etc in the evening.
drinking too much red bull?
Posted by Davo_169
just play with your girlfreind for a bit
Posted by max_wedge
exercise is the answer mate. I go for a pushie ride if I'm too wired to sleep. Also, don't worry about it too much, stress doesn't help sleep.
I understand fully, and have the exact problem. I often stay up till 2-3am just because I know once I stick my head down I'll lie there for ages bored out of my skull before I start to get tired.
edit: oops, missed trogs answer there. His answer is more correct, don't listen to a thing I said
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Posted by methylated_spirit
I play footie on Tuesday nights, and i always find i sleep much better than on a night where i havent been doing much.
Posted by joebmc
How strange! Both I and my girlfriend have been having trouble getting to sleep ourselves foe the past couple of days too. Tried pills (nightol I think), alcohol (couple of glasses of sherry), clearing my head and having relaxing thoughts and exercise before bed. But none has worked.
Maybe trogdor’s suggestion is worth a try, and I’ll say it was recommended
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Posted by teexl
well for me i was(i still am) a bookworm and its become an habit for reading thru d nights...it later affected me until i found the solution...get a TOM CLANCY novel...i bet ya u wont be thru 6 pages b4 ul be snoring,lol.
Posted by Kwiksta
READ! it tires your eyes
Posted by batesie
smoke marijuana.
Posted by max_wedge
there's always that too. Get a doctor's certificate for medicinal use for the condition of insomnia.
Posted by teexl
@tempsonyfreak,its only boring books that tires the eyes..i wouldnt advise u to take up a ludlum novel in the night..@Batesie,the guy doesnt smoke,lol
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
cheers guys, I like some of those suggestions ("playing" with my girlfriend being the best but that doesnt work, tired it lol) The book idea is alreay down the drain as last night I read about 150 pages of my book and finnished it lol, quite a good one called the conspircy club - medical thriller.
I do kind of agree with masseur as normally going to the gym and doing a hours work out wears me out, but within half a hour and a quick bite to eat im recovered and can still lie awake for ages. I dont know what to do, but I don't want to have to take pills etc just for me to sleep but over the last few months ive found it really hard to jsut switch off, and practically falling asleep in classes.
Posted by SCORPIONKING1982
I used to have trouble sleeping as I'd have a million and one things running through my head while I was laying there.
The only solution that works for me is to have some music or the tv on in the background to distract my mind. I either put some relaxing music on when I get into bed (not very loud obviously) or have the tv on. I use the sleep timer on the tv/stereo so its not running all night too. If you put the tv on dont sit there watching it hoping to fall asleep, just put it on fairly quietly and get into bed and lay down as usual. The sound of the tv will distract your mind but not so much as to keep you awake.
The music option will probably work best for most people but the tv works best for me, give it a go!
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
I have tired that to, every night since I was about 10 ive had gentel music playing in the background, but I lose my converntration on it and thinsabout otherthings
Posted by axxxr
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And this is the best solution by far....don't even consider pills.
I find a nice hot radox infused bath really helps to relax aswell.
Posted by SCORPIONKING1982
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ok how bout the tv? or a film? maybe the music just isnt enough to distract your mind?
failing that talk to my girlfriend, that always puts me to sleep
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
failing that talk to my girlfriend, that always puts me to sleep
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Ha ha, Im not sure if it will work as normally if I watch a film and try to fall asleep I converntrate on the film lol (i think im more of a visual person or soemthing) But I cant see why I dont't try it tonight and see how it goes
Posted by Pradhika
A bit of physical exercise at evening time is good. And a reading habit of informative (not fictions) books for half an hour or so at nights brings good sleep.
Posted by max99
put radio on a chat show somethging boring. i find radio 4 helps, and make sure you room is pretty dark, no light , cuz if there is ur eyes will want to look at things.
Also have hot chocolate b4 you go to bed. And last but not least. dont move around, like switch sides while trying to get to sleep, just get comfy and lie there shut eyes. listen 2 boring radio and ta daa. lol well helps me
Posted by *Jojo*
@luke - You are still LUCKY that you can GET 4 hours of (overnight) sleep
as I ONLY tend to GET 2, most of the TIME ! Why NOT try the very OLD trick . . . counting jumping - SHEEPS ! Good Luck !
Posted by jenbones
It's your comp, if your on it a lot u need a brake, my dad works in front of a screen for long hours and can't get to sleep, i am sometimes the same, come off your comp, chill with music for an hour and hit the sack, you'll be amazed how much easier u get to sleep
Posted by max99
yea bens right. if im online all day, i cant sleep very well
also a swig of whiskey doesnt go a miss
btw i dnt hav 1
Posted by Pradhika
Yet the best way is to go through the edition of short stories from your religious book like bible etc. . on the bed with a night lamp ... Brings a peaceful sleep.
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
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achually ive been doing that for the last few days, and it seemed to make it alot worse, as I suspected it was the same kindathing but I dont sleep more I just do alot less before I sleep
Posted by EastCoastStar
is there something particular you think about all the time before you go to bed? or something thats bothing you?
Posted by xpinkladyx
I have the exact same problem and I got it last January as well. Last year, I put it down to taking malaria tablets (because I had just come back from Dominican Republic and had to continue taking them for 2 weeks after I came back), but I've got it again this year and so has my boyfriend (joebmc). I think it is down to the time of year. January is the most depressing month ever. When I'm trying to get to sleep, I have absolutely nothing on my mind other than trying to get to sleep. It is this paranoia that keeps me awake! Last year, this insomnia thing only lasted a few weeks, but it was pure hell. Some nights, I'd go to bed at 10.30pm and not get to sleep until 5am (and I didn't even drift off once in that time!!!). Then I have to get up at 8am, it was awful so I bought some sleeping pills (Nytol) and they worked, but not every time. Best advice is to have some form of alcohol before you go to bed. It relaxes the mind and makes your tired. That would be my advice. It's the only thing that has consistently worked for me but hopefully I won't turn into an alcoholic (although I'd prefer that over insomnia)! Also, try and relax for at least 30 mins before you go to sleep because if you are on the go, then try and go straight to sleep, it probably won't work. I've tried the exercise thing, but it doesn't work for me.
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
@ xpinkladyx - thanks for the advice, but alcohol doesnt work either not sure why, but it has a minimal effect (unless I drink alot)
@ eastcoaster - i have nothing on my mind im just bored lying in bed, I am normally doing something and I don't like going to bed, but I hate waking up lol. I do have exams this week, but I can't say im stressed as I don't really care about them. Business has been ok not brilliant, and my relationships with friends seem to be fine along with the missus. I havent got much to look foward to so its not excitment, only thing really is that recently ive had alot of things which are at the back of my mind (will my small business do well this month, will i get into the right uni, will I be happy there, am I going to have any customer complaints, do I have any emails, will I go into debt in uni, will I continue with business there). I do feel when I go out should I leave my pc on so when I get back I can check my inbox which I know is nuts as it makes no difference if I reply to a email same day or within a few min.
ALso next year when I go to uni my parents are moving to spain (mostlikeely about 3 months after I go or less) prehaps im feeling that I don't belong here that im just waiting to move out to uni. My house drives me nuts to I moved here like 3 years ago and we still have the same paint on the walls and same carpet on the floors (it was a new house and has all this beige) it drives me nuts as it doent seem personel at all, and although it is a family house, there are no photos ony a few posessions lying around downstairs, and whats mine is up here in my room.....
man I can rant about s**t
Posted by p900 lover
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It helps, lol
Im having the same problem, the other day i had 2 hours of sleep then a full day at collage. I try to get 2 sleep at about 11 but then just lie there and in the end i end up doin sumthing. Eating, interent, Tv, book.
I think too much when i get in bed
Posted by EastCoastStar
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to me, it sounds like you are a little nervious/scared about going away to the uni. i know at the same time, you are exited, and want to leave your house and all, but you seem like you are worried about how u will like it, debt etc, and its so far away (not far, but more than 10 days, ya know?) so its on your mind, and knowing u cant do anything about it, keeps you up thinking about it. It may not be the primary thing on your mind, but its running around in the back of your head trying to figure out things and figure out how to make things right when you leave for the uni. Then possiably how your small business will do in a new location, and wonder who will enjoy what your business does. Then the meeting new peopel at the uni is probobly back there also. I think you just need to take some time and write some things down. try to figure it out in the day time when (and if) you have some free time. just write down what you think you can do to make things work for the best, and what you want things to be like, so you can figure out the best way you think things will be.
also, is your girlfriend moving with you?
Posted by xpinkladyx
i find that the thing that makes me not get to sleep is being paranoid that I won't fall asleep. With this running through my mind, I just can't nod off. I'm also finding that I get really hot, even though I wouldn't usually. I'm fine at weekends so that's why I know this is a paranoia thing. You should try and get some sleeping pills. They really aren't anything serious. You just take them 20 mins before you go to sleep and they should help you to feel sleepy, although they don't always work for me. I also find that the telly sometimes makes me doze off. but again, this doesn't always work and doesn't work at all for some people. Whenever me and my b/f watch a film in bed together, you can almost guarantee I'll fall asleep, but he won't! This obviously happens when I'm not going through one of my insomnia phases.
I'm sure that you will soon get out of this, because I did before. I certainly can't take a life time of not being able to sleep! But definitely get some sleeping pills.
Posted by xpinkladyx
Or if you don't want to take sleeping pills, take Kalms, or Nytol do herbal tablets which are supposed to help you relax.
Posted by EastCoastStar
random... but have you considered sitting in a hot-tub?
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
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nope my girlfriend is going to a diff uni about 2 hours away or more, but that doesnt bother me for some reason. I think you are right about the whole moving away from uni thing scares me as I am looking foward to it, but there are so many things to think about and it is eating me, but I can blank alot outa in my mind. I think I may try the whole writing my thoughts down on the matter, your right it may help, as im thinking alot about how my business will go (young and determined) as its a huge part of my life and also a real hobby of mine and I also think its one of my worst problems as I think about it far to much, for instance I just bought this for fun
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBay[....]pagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1
I probally wont be able to fix them, but Im 100% sure il make money on them, but I didnt buy it for the money I could make, I bought it as im bored and have nothing better to waste my money on what is the point of that?, I have got to a stage where I can make enough money to buy what I want and now I have almost everything I want (thought admitidly the new macbook is on my to buy list)
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Posted by EastCoastStar
wow. good luck fixing those
but im sure that writing your thoughts down like i said will help some. and like i said, it may not be the main thing on your mind, but its running around back there somewhere. the other thoughts are just your mind trying to cover up your other thoughts, so its like your mind trying to trick itsself into not thinking about it, you know?
the sleeping pills idea... my opinion on that is to stay away from it. there is something that is causing you to not be able to sleep. weather it be one thing or another, its still something making you not sleep, and you should try to figure it out rather than take sleeping pills, which in sence could make it worse becuase you wouldnt figure out whats bugging you, which could make you think more in the daytime which could make you more drowsey when you shouldnt be, while you have work to be done.
do you get what i mean?
also, if you dont mind me asking, whats your little business?
Posted by Luke-the-magic-man
I get some of that now all of it lol.
my little business is electronic resale and repair, I normally work on mobile phone and other small electronics which gets me a fair share, but also for my friends here i have offered a free repair service
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=113126
but so far my best deal has been the motorola mpx 300 I had for slae on here once, bought for 130, fixing cost 75 sale price around £550, I made over 300 profit on that one item
sI have also done lots of repairs on samsungs and things like that
Posted by EastCoastStar
thats cool.
i need to take up something to make some extra money
im not doin too good in that area.
anyway, let me know if my advice helps you any...
Posted by max_wedge
now I'm finding I'm waking up at stupidly early hours, and I'm still going to bed at 2-3am. I just can't seem to sleep-in even if I try!
The only time I can sleep well is in the middle of the day
Just as well i set my own hours (I work my own small computer repair business - no retail outlet - all my work is onsite, but I can set the hours)
Nothing like a mid day siesta to get you through the day!
Posted by *Jojo*
@max - That's what I am experiencing too . . . Can't SLEEP overnight, but have to SLEEP in the MIDDLE of the day
Good Thinh I have my sleeping bag with me (in the car) ALL the time . . .
Posted by Pradhika
@max. Correct. Not a deep one but a nap of half an hour in day time recharges the body to keep busy for hours together. . . . . . . . . Well. Telling that, the thought itself that my sleeping hours has gone down, may spoil it itself.