Posted by dheeraj1
here in mumbai dns is
202.56.230.5
202.56.240.5
but i am using
202.56.230.5
202.56.230.6
gateway ip is
202.56.231.117
Posted by AlanDS
@dheeraj
It was showing that 202.56.240.5 & 202.56.240.6 are located at Mumbai. Anyways, I still find 202.56.250.5 is the fastest among them.
b/w what speed you are getting with 202.56.230.5?
I'm getting 5.5kBps speed with 202.56.250.5
Posted by dheeraj1
yaar it has nothing to do with speed as it just resolve the domain name and nothing else.
Posted by AlanDS
Dude, but I see some speed differences while changing the DNS servers.
Anyways -in MO, 202.56.230.5 is active but when it comes to Airtel live connection, the same is inactive.
Now I have 2 questions!!
1) Why 202.56.230.5 has been enabled in the APN airtelfun.com even though it is non responsive?
2) We all know that Airtel has found a 100% effective way to block this trick(The DEMO was shown by Airtel in Last June & just 2 days ago). Then why are they re-enabling this trick? I think this might be their business trick. What do you say?
Posted by jingboyx
@alan
Dude, things are definitely not looking good at d moment. Airtel has blocked d trick again. Its high time someone starts the work from where spartan had left. Now my only means of internet is just nop on my mobile
. By d way, the mobile office apn is routed to a network which is isolated from the Airtel live network and they both dont have any common hop points. And currently they have enabled dns access to nop also which was not there previously. Nop and Airtel live are on d same network though.. As of now, i am just thinkin of buyin a sim from another state and get mo on it.
Posted by dheeraj1
u can open airtel live, yahoo on live without using proxy airtel is providing dns
to resolve dns of above to site.
and 1 more thing
4th month balance droped to -30 but still getting free mo
Posted by AlanDS
Yes. This is the WARNING BELL to all free GPRS users.
This trick will going to have an end very soon.
So we have to search for an alternative.
1) For free MO tricks, we need luck. Otherwise it willn't work. Dheeraj, plz guide us on this aspect.
2) Getting sim from other state which has cheap MO rates. eg:Kerala, West Bengal. I don't know about Mumbai and Delhi circles. South Indian's can get cards from Kerala very easily. Anyways, your luck is also needed to get free access on MO.
3) Opting for BSNL trick.
@jingboyx
Is this trick working with NOP?
Anyways, we have to wait and see bcoz Airtel would not like to loose their customers(free GPRS customers)
Posted by zolo
So guys if airtel has blocked free net access through access point "airtelfun" then how are we able to access the web on our phones. . . ??? Could someone explain this ???
Posted by shivam007
My dns reads 202.56.230.5 and am still able to use the trick on phone... Didn't tried on pc. Btw i can't access gmail.. M.gmail.com as it says secure connection not available.
Posted by AlanDS
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Dude, they have upgraded their proxy server. Now it can detect client. If it detects that the client is PC(connection dialled using *99***1#), it doesn't give ne response. But it gives response to Mobile clients.
Airtel is now allset to block this trick.
Anyways, I have a hope. Maybe airtel has blocked this trick to reduce traffic on AirtelLive server(due to festive season). They may re-enable it after 2 or 3 days. So don't loose any hope guys. This is not a new thing. Think +ve.
Posted by jingboyx
@alan
Nop is workin on phone only not on pc.
Posted by dheeraj1
AlanDS: there is nothing like that. i just checked it with ethereal. when u request any site using mobile it send 8 byte request to airtel server but when u send web request to airte via pc web browser it send 128-256 byte of request now airtel is not responding to request more than certain limit.
u can easily configure this on linux based server.
Posted by se7an
guys! this trick is not working for me now! after two days i tried to connect free gprs but it's not working!. it an END? i am in tn. if it works for any one please post your comment.
Posted by AlanDS
@dheeraj
If its possible to send lower byte requests through linux, can u plz guide us how to do? It would help us a lot. We should try to convert Airtel's new technology into a failure.
Posted by vizzpv
Guys, is it still working ?
Posted by jingboyx
@dheeraj
Just wondering . . . . How did you manage to intercept the traffic between ur mobile and Airtel server. Is there a mobile version of ethereal available?
Posted by stayback
Guys,
No need to panic. Even MO is not working properly. So I think its a temporary server down or some other problem. Lets hope for the best...
Posted by AlanDS
No. I don't see any problems with MO here. It's working even better since this trick was blocked. Now I'm getting over 6KBps speed during downloads(I was getting 5.4KBps in the past. Now it raised to 6.6KBps).
Posted by dheeraj1
@AlanDS i mean if u r running web server or a squid proxy than u can easily configure ur server to accept certain byte of request.
With ethereal u can monitor more than 60,000 ports and almost all the protocol. it also support gsm protocol too.
but because i connect my mobile through ppp protocol so i can not monitor gsm traffic.
Posted by manoj_299
Hey its again starts and speed is 15 KB/s in Kolkata. Its soooo great guys.
Posted by jingboyx
Yes it is working again but will keep my fingers crossed...
Posted by kumar1987
I am new to post in this forum,but have read almost all the post's till now.So plz guy's create a trick 4 poor helpless "single channel 6070" owner, 2 use airtel free gprs,plz you grt hackers plz help me out.
Posted by manoj_299
OOOOhhhh Guys what a great Speed tonight at 3 20 AM
I just brought Nokia 6630 Music edition phone on 19th Oct.
Posted by dheeraj1
this is how i monitor traffic
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/2359/etherapebe0.png
screen shot ...this is how it works when we dial a connection
[ This Message was edited by: dheeraj1 on 2006-10-25 00:13 ]
Posted by se7an
guys, it works well now! i am in tn. long live free gprs!
Posted by himadri_p
on 24.10.06 it is not working here in west bangla . my anti virus updates but no web page is loading.
[ This Message was edited by: himadri_p on 2006-10-25 06:58 ]
Posted by jairam
hi anybody knows diff between gprs modem and hscsd modem? is airtel hscsd network ?????? k 510i has maximum speed of 5.4 kbps, does it uses hscsd modem or gprs modem (6kbps)on airtel. is airtel cs4????????
what is the maximum speed achievable using k 510i at full network speed
will airtel upgrade network to cs4
PLEASE READ THIS AND GIVE ME AN ANSWER
Posted by zolo
@jairam
the main difference between gprs and hscsd is that
in GPRS a certain amount of bandwidth is shared amoung a number of users.....means that our connection stays active only while we send and recieve data......while our connection is idle....our time slots will be given to other users who need it ..... when we send data the gprs modem first requests for the availability of timeslots....then after receiving the timeslot the packet is sent...... remember timeslots are also used while we make calls too......this is why during peak hours.....our speeds reduce drastically..... since there r less number of timeslots available...... for a class 10 gprs phone a maximum of 4 download slots and one upload slot can be used...... but during peak hours...i get only 2 download slot and 1 upload slot this can be found out using networkmonitor..... since gprs is active only while we send or recieve data that is the reason why many operators charge per kilobyte..... but in airtel we pay monthly subscription.....
where as in HSCSD....... each user is allocated his own private timeslots....... the connection is active from the beginning till the end....... noone else would be able to use his timeslot and no need to send request for timeslots...... which gives us higher speeds..... thats why hscsd subscibers are charged per second....or minute......
theoretically hscsd is much faster than gprs but not economical....... through an hscsd connection if u r using 4+1 then one can get a maximum speed of 57kbps...... in gprs it would b 48kbps
airtel does not provide hscsd.....
as far as i know airtel uses cs-2 as their coding scheme...... if they would have used cs-4 then it would be "gprs+" which can give a max speed of 80kbps...... i dont think airtel would upgrade to cs-4 when EDGE is around.... here...
SE k510i is a class 10 gprs phone so u can achieve a maximum speed of
6KB/s
[ This Message was edited by: zolo on 2006-10-25 08:30 ]
Posted by jairam
" thanks fr rply" Can i upgrade my k 510i to edge anyway?? if airtel does not provide hscsd then why do i get max speed of 43.2kbps=(8*5.4kBps) which is hscsd modem speed pls tell me whether k510i uses hscsd for dialup modem and gprs for mobile browsing??????????????????????????????? any method to get more than 6 (5.4) kbps ????? is here any advantage of my phone having hscsd with airtel????? which software measures speed accurately???????????
why dont i get 6 kbps max if k 510 i is class 10 gprs (48kbpsmax) even during non peak hours? (only 5.4)
do my phone have 2 modems?
if airtel were cs4 could class 10 phone give 80kbps speed with same hardware?
Will airtel launch 3G??? if so can we use free 3G by fooling airtel?? will they stop edge/gprs?
which phone have edge(sony ericsson)????????????????????????????
[ This Message was edited by: jairam on 2006-10-25 11:15 ]
Posted by jingboyx
@dheeraj
Ok i get it dude. Were you able to receive any request from pc on ur server when the trick was not working?
Posted by dheeraj1
oh yes when ever i was trying to access google during downtime i was able to view session cookies send by google and other site on ethereal.
with ethereal u trace any thing i hacked lots of yahoo password using it at college.
whenever any was try to use yahoo messenger on shared network i was able to get his/her password coz it send request from messenger>>clientpc>>proxyserver>>yahooserver.
developers r using ethereal to write socket/ protocol/network related application.
[ This Message was edited by: dheeraj1 on 2006-10-25 13:00 ]
Posted by antz.bin
I have wasted enough time reading this thread....
to no avail...
i am using a K700i and connecting thru bluetooth..
using opera..
doing the step 7 (as explained in step 1)and waiting for ages....
can ne1 brief me on this please i mean the proxy server address and port..
actually the thread is too long to read completely and get the answer
no EDGE info required please.... my handset does'nt support EDGE.
[ This Message was edited by: antz.bin on 2006-10-25 18:19 ]
Posted by dheeraj1
get all the detail related to ferr gprs from here
http://www.desi-tek.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=700
Posted by jingboyx
@dheeraj
Ok so the requests from pc do get passed on to the respective website even during downtime right . So where do you think Airtel has set the plug to block this trick. And can you tell me the open ports on 100.1.200.99 . If Airtel had set the filter on d basis of browser check, then it should be possible to bypass that using registry tweaks, atleast with firefox. I have been using this trick to get free download slots from megaupload. Or atleast we should be able to browse on pc using a wap emulator . . Tell me ur views on this dude.
And by d way, the trick is down again
Posted by dheeraj1
no it has nothing to do with browser check. if net on phone is active on ur mobile than download opera mini or any other mobile browser and try to run it on pc using emulator u would be able to open site as opera mini will sent less bit of request.
Posted by jingboyx
No its not workin that way. I tried to run opera mini using midp2exe on pc. Since it didn't have native proxy support, i used proxifier along with it. But then i couldn't browse anything. One interesting thing i found while using proxifier is that a lot of bytes are getting received from Airtel server for every request sent . . . About 2 kb for each request. I will use ethereal or my own network packet sniffer tool which i wrote back in 2002 and and try to analyse those bytes tomoro and post the results. I am tooooo sleepy now. Haven't slept d entire night . Will be back later
Posted by AlanDS
@dheeraj @jingboyx
Please don't discuss any GPRS technical related issues in the public forum. You know what I mean. Use PM. It should be secret.
Posted by volt880
my dear friend dheeraj HAPPY DIWALI!!!!!
i have sent u a pm. pls check. bye.
Posted by ursani
hi everyone i have been reading this forum for a long time . Iam really thankful to Spartan for this ultimate trick. I have been using this trick to browse web sites but there is a PROBLEM now -
After getting connected i try open any site on my mobile it says - ACESS DENIED,then i open sites on PC ,all the sites were opening previously but since few days the progress bar stops responding and no sites r opening now.
PLZ help me out as i havent change any settings that r described in this forum.!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by se7an
guys! i think we are blocked again. the trick is not working now. i am in tn. I'm tried of it. i want to buy a gprs connection for my EDGE enabled phone. some one guide me what to buy? BSNL(edge enabled?),airtel and Hutch.
Posted by stayback
Guys it not working... Looks like very soon it will end.
Please tell me which is the best Bluetooth Usb adapter (Dongle)? What is maximum range it covers? Is ther any high range dongles available in india? Any1 using bluetooth please help me buying 1 good one. I want it for my Nokia 70, to use Gtel GPRS. Please tell me which brand ur using? maximum meters it covers? how is the speed of airtel gprs on it? does airtel trick works on dongle?
@Alan
Here in my place, before MO was giving me very good speed. But since last 1 month, speed is average. In peak hours it is very bad.
@Everyone
I was shocked to hear that Airtel provides EDGE only to postpaid customers, this was told to me by one of the Team Leader of Airtel. Is it true?????
Posted by zolo
@stayback
check out xmicro blutooth dongle my favorite..... range 100m..... works with all nokia and se phones........ easyinstallation too..... supports upto 912kbps data transfer speed for modem.....
http://www.techtree.com/techtree/jsp/article.jsp?article_id=54195
and abt edge given to postpaid customers only........ thats rubbish.......... there r many prepaid users who get edge speeds....... here...... dont know abt ur circle....????
Posted by mac6600
Its Working again guyz!!!!!!!. Hope it will not blocked again.
Posted by aragorn666
yesterday it was down
today it is dead slow with lots of errors
Posted by manoj_299
hey Guys I am using Enter Bluetooth purchase @ Rs 300. It comes with a usb extension cable and a Dongle with 200 Metre range. Watch my last post where I send screen shot of my PC where I am surfing with that dongle and free GPRS.
@Some Guys, Want to now keep the tricks secret then they just shouldnt to say here to keep secret but PM each directly with whom only they want to share but dont say here to that u dont want us to know any trick anymore. Sorry if I hurt anyone with my words.
Now its great speed @230 kbps. I am downloading using IDM.
[ This Message was edited by: manoj_299 on 2006-10-27 13:58 ]
Posted by se7an
i agree with u manoj. why these guys share some secrets in PM. if Spartan think like that we won't get this trick. Guys i am a samsung mobile firmware designer, And i use net for last 8 years, till now i teach others, what i know about computers and mobiles. So please share your knowledge with the people who don't have. Sorry if i make any hardwords.
Posted by jingboyx
@Manoj , s37an
Guys, I must say that you understood it all wrong. What AlanDS really meant to say was that... , Alan thinks airtel personnel could be tracking on this thread regularly and that could be the main reason for them blocking the trick from the past week. So he just meant to say not to discuss only the TECHNICAL details( i,e protocol information, port scanning, packet sniffing,etc) regarding this trick coz that could give them a clue to help them debug their buggy software. And he did not mean to say that the trick should be secret. And dont forget the contribution of AlanDS in this thread. If u had gone through the initial pages of this thread, you will know how he had patiently and generously helped a lot of people(with nice screenshots) to get this trick working on their pc.
Posted by volt880
anybody who knows the latest settings of free airtel live @ prepaid?
i have tried all the tricks but its not working now after diwali.
pls help. send me a pm.
also - anybody knows how to get free airtel mobile office @ prepaid?
i am stuck. pls help.
bye and thanks in advance.
Posted by AlanDS
@manoj @se7an
I think jingboyx cleared your doubts.
Again I'm requesting you all,
Don't discuss any technical related details(like protocol, DNS addresses, IP addresses) in the public forum. If you get success on finding any new trick, then just post that trick(without any technical details). Now we should be very careful. Airtel GPRS technicians are spying on us regularly.
Our discussions about protocols, DNS addresses will surely help Airtel people to solve the BUGS in their system.
Posted by manoj_299
Sorry Alan, I got it now.
@stayback I'm on airtel prepaid n using Gtel GPRS with free tricks with EDGE SPEED. See in my screenshot few post back.
Now GTEL change its ip for Its NOP Service. It was same just before diwali as Live but now LIVE is same 150 but NOP has 148. But problem is same when one goes down other also goes down. I didn't have multichannel GPRS phone last month so i purchased that @ 99 but but I'll deactivate it before next deduction date. Because I'm using free tricks. Just it helps me when I need to change ip for rapidshare.