Posted by shivam007
6230 is a series 40 phone.. And so you can't install sis applications in it. Am not sure about the multi channel Gprs.. But it does have a streaming player..
Posted by k_k7759
@abnerfurtado
i think it can be use with this trick
check this link
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6230-566.php
Posted by sathesh
compare any phone with 6030 in nokia website. for other phones it says Data connetivity column as USB , PCsuite or any thing else. for 6030 it says EDGE.
plz tell me how my phone can be made for spartan`s trick
Please tell me how this phone can be made for spartans trick..
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Posted by AlanDS
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shivam is right. It's not a s60 phone. So you can't install softwares,themes like 6600. Majority of Nokia s40 phones doesn't support multichannel(multilink) GPRS. So its better to check b4 buying(if you are buying phone from friend, there is no problem to borrow it for one day)
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Posted by freworld4u
hey alan
do u know of any way
by which mail(text only) delivered at any email address of urs is delivered as sms on ur cell ??????
or something related 2 that u can think off!!!!
Posted by shivam007
I was wondering the other day.. If series 60users are using there phones to make two connections.. Then can't the series 40 do the same from pc?. Becoz the phone makes two connections two the server.. So can't the same be done from pc?
Posted by stayback
~~~~ Guys Please every1 reply to this Questions...
1) Which Cellphone (model) you are using to connect to spartan gprs?
2) In early morning around 6-7am what speed your getting on PC?
3) You are from which City?
4) How you are connecting (i,e Via USB cable or Bluetooth or infrared??)
Please I request you all to test your internet speed in the early morning hours. Click the link to test your internet speed http://www.zdnetindia.com/reviews/isp/rateisp/popspeed.html
I have Nokia 6630, SE W550i, I connect thru USB cable.
On Nokia 6630 I get speed 80kbps and above
On SE W550i I get speed 30kbps max.
I request all to perform internet speed test on the above mentioned link. And post results here along with answers to the above queries.
I Hope every1 will reply to this post................
Thanks guys!
Posted by niranjan007
@shiv it all comes down to software limitations. Consider this:on my t230, recording voice clips is limited only by free memory, whereas on all s60 phones,recording is limited to 1min.
Also, believe it or not, there's no auto key lock feature that's found even in the most basic phones.
If nokia chose not to implement multi channel gprs on a phone, there's nothing you can do about it
Posted by sony4life
hey alanDS and other guys can u help me to solve a problem???
its a annoying one.
first to tell u that i have SE T610 and i connect through bluetooth dongle using spartan metod.i am from kolkata.
since march airtelmms is not working so i have to bruteforce to connect cauz T610 is singlechannel gprs phone.
previously bruteforcing for about 25-30 times the page will open and i will continue to browse till i remain connected.
but from last month i saw some problem.in morning around from 10 am to 12 midnight there is no need for bruteforcing.the page will open on first try.
but when i start browsing and open few random sites then it shows 403 forbidden.
i have to connect and reconnect to open sitesin this time period.but after 12 midnight these problem vanishes and come back to previous old method.
i try my best to solve this problem like changing the USB port,changing the phone position,reinstalling drivers etc.but still the problem remains.
can u guys help me to tell how i solve this???
Posted by stayback
Am planning to buy a New phone... Guys pls help me choose the best one.
Sony Ericsson K750
Sony Ericsson W810 (EDGE - Class 10, 236.8 kbps)
Sony Ericsson W900 (3G - 384 kbps)
Which is the best among three?
Which will give good internet speed, spartans trick ????
One more thing for Phone guru's... As u all know Nokia 6630 is giving very good speed for spartan gprs. It is giving good speed because of 3G or EDGE??? or any other reason? please explain why?
Posted by shivam007
The main thing behind the multi channeling thing is that the phone connects to two servers .. So can't we do the same from pc?...
Posted by blu_6779
@stayback check out the comparison:
http://www.esato.com/phones/index.php?phone=183&cp=216&cp2=168
w810 would be best for spartan's trick coz of edge, but w900 is the most advanced of the lot though without edge. I don't think 3g has anything to do with increased speeds.
Posted by sathesh
hi
my brother tried the spartans trick in bangalore with his w550i and found that when he opened the browser and tried any address in IE he got the error "404 Access Denied ".
Any body plz help.....
Posted by stayback
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Go thru pages 55-65 you will find complete setting for SE W550i.
Posted by sathesh
hey can u plz help me how N6030 can be made for spartans trick
Posted by stayback
@sathesh
Please go thru all the pages, am sure u will find all your queries... All the best!
Posted by AlanDS
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No shivam. Multichannel has another name called multilink. That means connecting to a server(single server) by 2 channels at a time. This thing can be used in pc if your ISP supports Multilink PPP. Using Multilink PPP, you can combine speeds of 2 internet connection, thus you can double the speed. As per my query, no ISP in India supports multilink PPP. If this was possible then if you have 2 mobile phones with Live activated, we can get broadband speed for free.
Posted by stayback
@Alan
Why Nokia 6630 internet performance is good? because of EDGE or 3G??? Please explain
Posted by freworld4u
@stayback!!!!!
HEY YY WHAT HAPPENED??????
CHECKED MY PM OR NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REPLY BACK FAST THRU PM ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by sathesh
can any body tell how standard modem via ir can be installed in xp..
wen i go for add hardware wizard it contains 1ly drivers of standard 33600bps, standard 55600bps(eg.) etc..
it does not contain standard modem via ir..
Posted by shivam007
@alands my question was tat isn't it possible to make two simultaneous connections like the phone does..
Posted by sathesh
can any body tell how standard modem via ir can be installed in xp..
wen i go for add hardware wizard it contains 1ly drivers of standard 33600bps, standard 55600bps(eg.) etc..
it does not contain standard modem via ir..
Posted by blu_6779
@shivam for 2 or more connections to be used simultaneously u need a wan router.
Posted by shivam007
Wats a wan router?P.s. Am a 16 year old.. Probably the youngest in this forum
Posted by stayback
Guys Please every1 reply to this Questions...
1) Which Cellphone (model) you are using to connect to spartan gprs?
2) In early morning around 6-7am what speed your getting on PC?
3) You are from which City?
4) How you are connecting (i,e Via USB cable or Bluetooth or infrared??)
Please I request you all to test your internet speed in the early morning hours. Click the link to test your internet speed http://www.zdnetindia.com/reviews/isp/rateisp/popspeed.html
I have Nokia 6630, SE W550i, I connect thru USB cable.
On Nokia 6630 I get speed 80kbps and above
On SE W550i I get speed 30kbps max.
I request all to perform internet speed test on the above mentioned link. And post results here along with answers to the above queries.
I Hope every1 will reply to this post................
Posted by AlanDS
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Nokia 6630 is a fastest phone exists in Nokia s60 flatform. Its also has Class 10 GPRS with more slots. That makes huge difference. 3G & EDGE nothing to do with this.
But the interesting fact is I'm getting more speed in N70 than 6630. Anyways 6630 is a best & recommended phone for Airtel Free GPRS(Spartan's Hack)
Posted by AlanDS
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Dude, you are going to expert level. Yes its possible but not applicable to our case. We need PPP Multilink which is not enabled in Airtel. I heard that there was a software called "Midpoint Teamer". But now it's production is stopped.
Posted by blu_6779
@alan i heard that wingate can do load balancing between 2 or more connections, ever tried it?
Posted by AlanDS
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Yes. It can(I saw in its website but not tried it yet) but its for 2 network connections. The load balancing is also available in Windows Server 2003. But we need to combine 2 internet connections to double the speed. I have made lot of researches but no result. We need multilink PPP support on ISP.
@shivam
Have u tried by dialling 2 dialup connections at a time. They connect but u will get only speed of any one connection.
Posted by blu_6779
@alan wingate can combine 2 net connections as one, check out vinuthomas.com. there used to be a guide on a site on how to go about it, but that has been taken down
. I took a mo connection to use in conjunction with my asianet unlimited connection, but the guide's no more .
Posted by jingboyx
@alan
To use 2 dial up connections with double speed, you need to create a network bridge. Goto control panel, network connections and right click on any dial up connection and click bridge connection.
Posted by stayback
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What is the speed your are getting in N70 on PC?
So you mean its because of Nokia 6630 fast processor we are getting good speed, not because of EDGE. But others are saying they are getting good speed in EDGE phone???
That is why am asking you all members here to please check ur internet speed http://www.zdnetindia.com/reviews/isp/rateisp/popspeed.html and post the results so that those who are about to buy a new phone, will keep this points in mind, before making decision.
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Posted by stayback
What about Sony Ericsson W810 ? Any1 here using it ? Please let me know what speed ur getting on it? It has EDGE.
Posted by blu_6779
@stayback when using mobile office on my 6020 which is edge enabled i get speeds of 110 kbps, but on k700 and k750 the speeds average about 70-80 kbps.
@jing can u give me a step by step on how to bridge 2 connections? I tried it once, but I wasn't successful.
Posted by stayback
@blu
I never got more than 100 anytime? what time u get 110kbps?
you are from which place?
Posted by blu_6779
@stay i'm from cochin. I get those speeds at all the times of the day on mobile office. This is the result i get from the speed test on a k750 using spartan's trick:
Your ISP 63.1 kbps
Posted by AlanDS
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Was it successful?
Posted by shivam007
Why is it so that one get so variation in speeds.. For instance.. If someone connects wit the mms Apn to the proxy 100.1.200.99 and port 8080... And the other connects wit Airtelfun.com then the former gives speeds of 8kbps , and the latter gives 70 or more... Why is it So.? As the server is same in both the cases... Isn't it?
Posted by AlanDS
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There is nothing to do with EDGE when the network is not EDGE enabled. As I said b4, phones like 6630,6680,NSeries are considered as high-end phones. Bcoz of that, they have good(high-quality) GPRS modems with more slots. That's why we are getting good speeds. There is no effect of 3G or EDGE over our normal GPRS speeds.
Posted by blu_6779
@alan according to the vt guys, they were successful, but not as good as a hardware router.
Posted by jingboyx
I dont think we can measure the correct speed using online test sites. Because it will only show the speed between the Airtel proxy and the test website and not the real speed of the gprs. To measure the real speed, yet must measure it manually while downloading some file. Correct me if i am wrong on this
Posted by AlanDS
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Yes dude. You are 100% right. But this also depends on the server location. So it's better to check the speed by downloading file from a server hosted in India.
Posted by AlanDS
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No. I don't believe in that. If you are using 100.1.200.99 gateway, you both will be getting same speeds.
As I said b4, Airtel has placed their GPRS servers in different locations and proxy is a driver(connector) for that. As a result of that, the speed may change when u disconnect and reconnect. So if you get low speed, disconnect and reconnect. Try till you get good speed. By this method you can get about 50kbps even in peak hours.
Posted by shivam007
@alands am using the mms Apn.. But everytime i connect i get barely 8kbps and if somehow it get connected wit the Airtel fun Apn then i get speeds around 70.. This happens everytime and not once or twice..
Posted by rahul_mk
hi alan ur technique of reconnecting till i get good speed is working. The speed i get when testing thru zdnetindia.com site is 105kbps.
Posted by shivam007
@rahul are you using the same Apn everytime you reconnect?
Posted by stayback
@Alan
What is the maximum u get on N70?
Posted by blu_6779
here's an indian server to check speed on:
http://www.calcuttatelephones.com/bandwidthmeter/initialmeter.php
Posted by AlanDS
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Great link dude.
@stayback
I'm getting average speed of 65kbps. The maximum I got was 101kbps(on June 17th at 6:05am). I'm not using MMS apn(its not working). But I checked the speed with NOP & Airtel live apn's. But I'm getting more with Live APN. I checked the speeds today by using MO APN. The speed was not good, only 50kbps. So I think the spartan's trick gives us better speed.
@shivam
Congrats man. Atlast you succeeded in this trick by using MMS apn. By the way, how you made it to work? Any special procedures?
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Posted by AlanDS
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What do you mean by 70. Is it KBps or kbps. These units are case-sensitive. 8kbps is too low! But 8KBps is normal.