Posted by jrmgolem
I have checked the search engine and can find no reference to the Telecom Plus SIM.
My orange contract has run out, and I have changed to the Telecom Plus SIM only deal at 8 per month, no contract, .08p per minute at any time to any network!
I know that it is run off the T-Mobile backbone, and there is a very good blackberry deal as well. Go to:
HTTP://www.telecomenergyplus.com
Then click 'SIGN UP' and you can then choose mobiles, then the comparison button for the SIM only package. I would say that there is no mobile that would interest us!
Posted by Andlil
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And I would say that this post has nothing to do in this part of Esato, keep country-specific questions in the regional threads...
//A
Posted by jrmgolem
My appologies, can this be moved to the correct thread?
Posted by Greggy
So what country is this for?
Posted by jrmgolem
Sorry!
I think I am in enough trouble for this post!
But its for UK users.
Cheers
Julian
julian@jrmoore.com
Posted by Si_V80
15 p/month, 3000 free evening and weekend texts and 600 free evening mins
No contract, Orange Pay a Go
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Posted by jenbones
It'sgood, but would have to be all time calls
Posted by Si_V80
sorry was 3000 free texts
Posted by jenbones
Yeah, standard ones, gotta use in a montg, ripoff!
Posted by jrmgolem
The reason I have changed is that all the promo's for free text's and calls are usually being paid for in the contract price. They are even looking for a 18 month contract these days, I would not sign up for that!
With the Telecom Plus SIM only deal you can try it for a couple of months and then chuck it if you didnt like it! They say that you will spend no more than you would have done on a contract tarrif, and get more call time.
I worked it out and I am better off on Telecom Plus SIM only having been with Orange for 5 years, they couldnt match it even to keep me.
Posted by R34GTR
I don't think it is the best but its fair lol.
Orange - Sony Ericsson W800i - 12 months
40 per month for 6 months - 300 Xnet mins plus 3000 weekend calls
20 per month for 6 months - 200 Xnet mins plus 2000 weekend calls
Posted by Greggy
It seems to me u get a better deal with orange on payngo than contract. For instance u can add daily weekly or monthly bolt ons and calls to any network work out at 6 to 8 per min ie. Pound a day for 15mins calls. Or 5 quid a week for 60mins and of course quid a day for unlimitd browsing and downloadsThis message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted by jrmgolem
I still do not understand why anyone would pay 40 per month for a contract anymore.
I think Greggy has a good point with the bolt-ons but even then, I dont see why anyone would pay for what is understood to be free, but isn't! You are paying for the minutes in the 10 or 20 you pay for the bolt on, and you still have to top up your phone to keep the deals.
I pay 8 for my monthly fee, if I make 200 minutes of calls at 8p that equals 16, add that to my 8 equals 24. Previously with Orange I would spend on average 26, this was the lowest tarrif, which included 100 free minutes. I have used orange for 5 years, with two lines on the contract, would they really want to loose a long standing customer? I dont think so! They could not match the tarrif from Telecom Plus.
Over a year with orange I would have spent 240 plus the extra 6 that I was spending over the 100 free minutes at 15p per minute which is 72, so now I will get 96 per year for my monthly payment at 8, plus the extra I was spending will give me an extra 35mins of call time at 8ppm. Can you see where I am coming from with this?
Posted by Greggy
Lol yes mate i see that your saving money compared to the unbelievably bad contract u were on. I still dnt like the idea of paying 8 quid b4 u start even paying for your calls. heres another suggestion buy an o2 online sim top up 10 quid month and get 100 any network any minutes and u can still use your 10 quid up. u can also buy a 50 min bolt on for 8 quid so thats 150 min any network any time u have for 8 quid. it woud cost u 20 quid!
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Posted by jrmgolem
I take your point on the 8 per month, but even then, there are a lot of people here would be happy to pay 40 - 60 per month and they think they get something for nothing.
While doing the calculations for this I worked out that I have saved 90 on my home phone, 288 in line rental on my mobiles, 58 on my Electricity, 66 on my Gas, 60 on my Broadband, all this equals 562 in the year. I know its a bit off topic, but I am very happy with this, plus I get 50 back each year as well, so that offsets my mobile line rental of 8.
The original topic was for the lowest SIM Calls on PAYG, I think that there is nothing to touch it, although its a mixture of monthly line rental and PAYG, It is the best value!
Thanks for this debate though...LOL
Posted by batesie
the less you use it, the cheaper it gets....
Posted by jrmgolem
I can see the value in the O2 deal. But you will still have to pay 10 per month for that.
8 per month on Telecom Plus + 150mins of talk time = 20
Have you ever run out of minutes on your phone when you need or want them most?
With the Telecom Plus Tarif you never run out of credit. and its equal to the O2 deal.
Posted by Greggy
Yes mate but u still have your 10quid to use on watever as i say 150mins is only costing u 8 quid compared to 20with yours
Posted by jrmgolem
O2 Home Bolt Ons
O2 Home 100 - 100 anyone, anytime minutes each month from home - to UK fixed lines and all UK network mobiles 9.99 per month
This is the copy from the O2 site, if you divide 9.99 by 100 it gives you 9.9ppm so its .01 short of 10p.
The other 10 you have spent is being used at a rate of 25-30ppm, so you are not getting real value for money.
In fact Vodaphone have the highest tarrif at 40ppm.
Anyway have a look for yourself:
http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/boltons/online
Posted by Greggy
Still dnt think u undestand mate u get the 100mins automaticaly wen u top up 10quid and u still have the 10quid credit to use up for bolt ons
Posted by jrmgolem
Ok, how much is the 10 top up giving you in ppm calls? Before you pay 10 for the bolt-on.
Because your bolt-on is giving you 9.9ppm, so its 1.9ppm more expensive than Telecom Plus.
Just for your interest, you have paid 10 for the top up+10 for the bolt-on so you have spent 20.
I have just looked at the O2 deal. You have to top up every month by 10 so you are paying 10ppm.
See for yourself:
http://shop.o2.co.uk/shop/o2u[....]:O2:TALKALOT:HANDSET:VOICE:PRE
Posted by Greggy
Lol your determined to win this argument but t can rite u top up 10quid and u get 100min automaticaly thats for NOWT! lol and the bolt on i was thinking of his the calls 50 for 7.99 so u have 150mins for spending 8 pound of your credit which is 12quid cheaper than u
Posted by jenbones
Greggy wins, exept the 100 are like 100 counters, every counter is used up by a text or a minute of calling.
Posted by jrmgolem
Ok, whatever!
You have just said that you have spent 10 for your 100 free minutes and then 7.99 for your extra 50. I dont know about anyone else but that adds up to 17.99 of my money any day.
So for 18 you can get 150 mins of call time free!
So you have PAID and then you get what you have PAID for!
150/18=8.33 Thanks for that.
But you will have to remember to top up your phone where as mine is on direct debit, If you have a problem, you have to ring an 0870 number, mine is free (0800). I also get 50 back at the end of the year because I also use other services.
But, yes you are right, O2 seem to have a great package there! If you want PAYG.
In the end, I guess it really doesn't matter, if you want to have to top up, then thats the one for you. I want to pay by direct debit without worrying about running out of credit, just like my orange contract.
Posted by Greggy
how hav i spent 18quid? Lol your not payin attention. I said i get 100mins added automaticaly IVE STILL GOT MY 10 QUID CREDIT ON MY PHONE then if i need to i can add the 8 quid bolt on so ive spent 8 quid of my 10 quid and ive got 150mins in total
Posted by o44wen
o2 have the best deal! also you are never really ever far from topping up. You can do it by many easy ways, by text message, atms, calling o2 and paying by debit and credit cards, at most shops, and finally online too. o2 make it very easy to top up. you get a balance after each call so you should always know when your credit is low. o2 all the way to the top with great deals!
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Posted by Greggy
Well its certainly the way to go if u want cheap xnet anytime calls . Although orange have a greater variety of boltons and deals. And they do have the quid a day unlimited gprs
Posted by o44wen
yeah, the cheapness of you phone deals just boils down to how you use your phone, Personaly i like the o2 online contract because they give me a 'free' phone every year and loads of text, unlimited gprs, and a good few call minutes and it works out cheaper for me, as i dont like to pay for a phone in one large lump, contract way i just have it spread out over the year...
Posted by o44wen
... and it only works out to be about 12 quid per month when i sell my phone at the end of each year. wonderful deal i think
Posted by R34GTR
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It depends on what type of phone user you are. If your a businessman and spend around 120pounds a month on pay as you go and you can get around the same value for a 40 pound contract then to the Businessman that is going to look very cheap and to you it is going to look ridiculously expensive. If a user who hardly uses their phone goes for a 40 pound a month contract then i would agree with you otherwise the correct answer would depend entirely upon the consumers phone usage and how much they value the phone they are getting.
Thanks.
Posted by jrmgolem
Ok, how about this one then. 89.99 and you get 200mins of x-network calls per month.
http://www.mercurymobiles.com/default.asp?PARTNER=jrmgolem
I think that works out at 3.75 per month! One payment no contract!
Posted by Greggy
realy! that sounds to good to be true is there no catches? are the calls quid a min if you go over ya 200 lol
Posted by jrmgolem
Here are the call charges as published on the website.
200 Cross Network Anytime minutes per month are free. After that, you pay our standard rate.
Standard Calls (at any time): 12p p/m
Calls to other mobiles (at any time): 29p p/m
Voicemail (at any time): 12p p/m
Text Message (per message): 12p
Picture Message (per message): 36p
Data Usage (per Kb): 0.235p
Look pretty good to me, although the text is costly.
Posted by rayman2006
t mobile
1000 free text 10 a month + u get 10 free
= 1000 text and 240 off peak minutes
Posted by jrmgolem
Is the T-Mobile contract free?
Posted by jrmgolem
I thought it worth mentioning that Telecom Plus are offering 3 months free calls to ANY number!
So if you call international numbers, 0870, 0845 etc it is included!
Any number anytime free for three months.
I dont know how they do that.