Posted by lamont
hi,
iv set up adwords to advertise my site and just wondered if anybody knows how longs it takes before your ad starts to appear in the main search area not just the sponsered ad part.
thanks guys
uk-mobileshop.co.uk
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Posted by highpeak
Hi
There is something called the 'sandbox' effect with Google and when a site is brand new it will not display the site immediately. Over time, the google spider will revisit your site probably quite regularly and if it is still there in 6 months time (or so) it MAY start to render some results in its index. This sandbox effect is a tool used to ensure quality of the search engine. I would say look at 6 months to 12 months before you see anything in google. In the meantime look at building links into your site. Each inbound link is like a vote for your site, so Google looks as this parameter... make sure inbound links are text links and keyworded to your site, also, where your link appears on other sites make sure they are relevant to your market area.
Another thing to consider is that mobiles4everyone 'white label' is essentially a website that is replicated over the internet... and that exact duplicate content on other URLs will result in duplicate content penalties. I am taking my 'white label' forward purely on pay per click results. That is all I intend to do really.
Phil
Posted by lamont
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please will you explain this a bit more. what do you mean by these penalties? thanks
Posted by highpeak
Have a read here
http://www.elixirsystems.com/[....]-duplicate-content-penalty.php
Posted by lamont
cheers mate
Posted by highpeak
The only way around the problems like this is to either produce a bespoke site with lots of content and then i-frame or javascript the content into your pages. Or have another website that links into your white label site. That way you can have unique content and refer people through to your site.
Phil
Posted by lamont
il leave it for now and hope for the best. which other ways have advertised your site mate? How long did it take for you to start geting traffic through adwords? thanks
Posted by lamont
iv spent £7 in 2 days and still no comission on the website, what am i doing wrong?? cheers
Posted by highpeak
To be honest - I do not think that the stats are updated daily. The last sales I have showing are for 8th November, it is now the 12th November and I have probably delivered 400-500 visitors over the last few days. By rights there should be some more sales.
Posted by highpeak
Hi
I am moderator on one forum and I have clocked up around 500ish posts. I have a similar post count at other forums. I make sure to change my sig to promote the site I want to get moving. That is one tip. I emailed my contacts list. I am hoping a bit of word of mouse/mouth will get the site going.
Posted by lamont
what have you got your price per click and daily budget set to? thanks
Posted by highpeak
I use a feature which is called "Budget Optimiser" - which is helping keep some money in my pocket. I am getting a good flow of traffic using this feature. Today I have received 63 visitors for £3.98 - which is not bad. I just hope there is a conversion in that set of visits
Posted by lamont
i was going to use that but when i set it up it only used about 25 of my keywords, what happens with you?
Posted by highpeak
Hi
It is true the majority of my keywords have received 0 impressions, but I keep them as the term could be searched on. I keep having keywords become inactive using this, which is a bit daft as I have set my minimum bid at 0.15p and lots of the inactive ones are at a lesser price than this - can't understand that.
I am receiving impression of maybe 100 keywords, and click on around a third of that. To get more clicks I suppose I would have to up my minimum bid to get higher up the list.
Hope that helps
Phil
Posted by highpeak
I am puitting mine back to manual - as it has inactivated the terms I want to target
Posted by lamont
i v switched back to manual to with 17p bid and £3.00 a day, (it was on £4 a day) abit high though, When are the sales reports updated for the affiliate sites? thanks
Posted by lamont
also how much are you spending a day? Price per click has just gon up on loads of words!
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Posted by highpeak
Hi
I am on £10 a day on the adwords. I am only spending about half that a day though. Maybe putting it back to manual will mean higher rates of click throughs. The stats are meant to be updated daily at around lunchtime. I'll check mine in a bit.
Laters
Phil
Posted by lamont
mines still got no sales.
JT said that the last sales hes got showing up are a few days old so there may be a delay. have you got sales from today? thanks
Posted by Krubach
Don't know if it appplies to advertisers but Google Sitemaps worked a treat for my website.
http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps
In less than a month my website was on 1st results page.
You need a tool to generate your sitemap XML file.
(GSSitecrawler ?, can't remember ...
... Alzheimer's)
EDIT:
Just found: GSiteCrawler
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Posted by lamont
does the gsitecrawler generate a site map for you becuase the sites we are advertising dont have site maps. cheers for your help mate
Posted by highpeak
Hi
I have used gsitecrawler and here is the result for one of my sites. gsitecrawler creates an XML file that you upload somewhere on your webspace. If we are allowed to upload these files then that would be good..
http://www.google.co.uk/searc[....]e%3Awww.ukshopsnet.co.uk&meta=
135,000 spidered pages. I have equivalent sites that have just as many pages - but only have maybe 15-20,000 pages in the google index - the difference between using google sitemaps and not using them is very clear. Google sitemaps are very cool.
Anyway, if your site is spidered by gsitecrawler to create a sitemap then every page on the site will eventually go into the google index. Using this technique is good for dynamically generated sites (like the site you have) as pages with query strings in (query string = when there are ? in the URL i.e. esato.com/board/editpost.php?post_id=1487769&topic=108613&forum=22) are always a little more difficult to spider by a search engine. Using gsitecrawler gives you a leg up as the XML file makes it easy for a spider to pass through it.
Phil
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Posted by goldenface
Bump! What kind of CTR should one be expecting? At the moment some of mine are at 33%. Is that healthy? Others are 0% and I think they will be culled.