Posted by shawnmccall9
I think that you can have two lines on a single SIM...my R520 manual says so anyway...are there any providers in USA that support this? I would really like to consolidate both my lines into one phone rather than two.
Posted by riflogic
Yeah it is definitely possible to have two different numbers on the same SIM card.
Posted by shawnmccall9
thanks for confirmation!!!
anybody tried this in the USA?
Posted by porterg
What you are looking for is Alternate Line Service.
Posted by shawnmccall9
cool...thanks
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Posted by wapchimp
Orange are the only UK provider to have line 2 - don't know about anywhere else - the T68 was made with line2 compatibilty as standard maybe other
models aswell.
Posted by riflogic
I thought Vodafone in the Uk provide this service as well. Can anyone confirm this?? Thanks.
Posted by wapchimp
I checked their website & couldn't see line 2 - I'm sure Orange r the only UK operator for this - but they do have Multi-Sim:
http://www.vodafone.co.uk
click on services - then call management - then scroll to the bottom & slect mulitsim - it sounds pretty good.
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Posted by riflogic
Oh yeah, thats it. I have been confusing Multi-SIM with line two service on Vodafone. Thanks for that. So its confirmed that Orange is the only network in the UK to provide the service.
Posted by wapchimp
yeh - thats y they take ages to release phones - cos the software has to be changed - same with the T68 'i' upgrade aswell.
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Posted by cadcad
No i bet that's not the case who make them late in delivering phones cos i have a sim free t68 and i do already use this service called duo on my network and they didn't change any software. I just subscribed and after 24 hours i had both lines on 1 sim.
Posted by cadcad
No i bet that's not the case who make them late in delivering phones cos i have a sim free t68 and i do already use this service called duo on my network and they didn't change any software. I just subscribed and after 24 hours i had both lines on 1 sim.
Posted by wapchimp
Yes - line 2 is a sim card feature - but the 68 was made with line 2 software - so thats y u have it - Orange do have a different software version - most operators do - so they can 'lock' the handset & add or take away certain menu's on the phone - ask any UK user & they will say Orange usually take ages to release new handsets - because of this.
Posted by sweet
Its possible to have two lines. Like in philippines we can use two sim card with different network, for as long as your unit has line 1 and 2. But in most cases nokia cel are the only one that are most capable to have dual sim cuz you can buy the back of the cover that has an installation for the 2 sim card.
Posted by shawnmccall9
@ porterg
I called T-Mobile 611 last night and the guy said that they don't do this. How did you come across that info?
Posted by shawnmccall9
well, Nextel (an iDen provider) offers it, no T-mobile though
http://www.nextel.com/services/digitalcellular/alternatelineservice.shtml
Posted by porterg
I know Cingular has "alterate line service," but don't know about T-mobile. Their website doesn't say anything about it. Ask an experienced sales rep at a store. Alot of obscure features like ALS go unknown by newer reps and cust serv reps.
Posted by shawnmccall9
oh, alright...if not I hope that ALS comes here when Cingular Chicago goes GSM in 6 or so months
Posted by porterg
Is an R520 an non-sim phone? If so, it may be possible to program more then 1 # into it. When I worked for an analog carrier, most of the phones were at least dual nam (2 numbers). Some could take 6. But, if you need both numbers available at all times, won't work.
Posted by shawnmccall9
Yeah, I am a psychologist with one phone for personal use and one for clients to call. So, I do need both simultaneously. I was investigaitng and Cingular offers ALS in your market, but not in California. I sure hope that it comes when GSM comes here...oh yeah, R520 is SIM based...it was the first phone with Bluetooth. Its a good one, especially with the special IAT-10 antena
Posted by adamizer
There is a Battery that holds two SIMs for R250 but its not simu...
Iīll check it out.
Posted by adamizer
I couldnīt find it on
us site infact i couldnīt find the R520 there either try around the countrys to see who sells the battery I think itīs an eropean country. donīt remember wich though!
But the R520 specs says it can do it (two sims that is)
http://www.clasohlson.se They have a non orig. battery that holds two sims if u r intrested price 495 Skr appr. 4,95 euros
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Posted by shawnmccall9
thanx, that was interesting..yet I really would like two numbers on one sim, so that I could always use both numbers...When you have two SIM's you have to switch and that's no good. Thankx though...its really more of a provider issue than an Ericsson issue
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Posted by adamizer
Oh! I know that was your q. but i thought, what the heck, good to know incase two nmb in one sim failed
good luck!
Posted by shawnmccall9
it is a good thought. Hey, I have a few questions for you about R380...does it support two voice lines? I didn't see that feature in the manual I downloaded. Also, what are your thoughts about the R380?
Posted by adamizer
Well I think that dual numbers are possible, but that is amatter of programming and as far as I know there are no such prog. on the phone, but it could exist as an upgrade, maybe someone else knows. I will check with my sp. And get back to you. There is 4 major flaws with 380 1. No GPRS 2. Memory not enough. 3. No ems. Except when on internet 4. It takes two hands operating. Other than that I love it. :-]
Posted by ShibbyLicious
correction : orange are not the only uk network to 'alternative line service' 'duo' or whatever u guys r calling it !!
all uk networks have 2 lines for each sim (the only exception at present is Virgin - but thats gonna chnage in 3months) Line 1 and Line 2, the traditional use for having 2 lines is one for voice and the 2nd for fax/data : basically u can receive fax etc straight 2 ur phone etc etc on line 2 !!
most gsm networks should support line 1 and line 2 cos generally the capability is within the network infrastructure
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Posted by wapchimp
mmmmmm ShibbyLicious, that don't sound quite right - Orange - as I'm aware are the ONLY UK operator to have seperate voice line 1 & line 2 numbers - line 2 does NOT support such features as text, (receive only) wap, fax/data & conference calling - nor does it work abroad - all calls have to diverted to line 1 - so u aint quite right - a fax/data line is another line in theory - but if it was 'billed' as a seperate line then on Orange u could have 3 lines - yes a fax/data line has its own nubmber etc - but u can have additional products with their own number which share the line 1 - I have a sepearte fax number which is on my line 1 & can be called seperatly (just get ansafone though) then I have a data line with a seperate number aswell - plus a 'line 2' - so thats 4 in total.
Posted by shawnmccall9
@ orangeman
I'd be plenty happy if I could get two domestic lines, yep, one happy camper...I don't leave the country much
Posted by adamizer
Hi SM9! My sp said it could be supported by the program in the phones but doesnt show until needed, be advised this is not for shure. So ive asked some :se: people and now await the outcome of that!
Posted by shawnmccall9
yeah, I think that it is supported too, whcih I read in the manual...but I don't have any service providers in the area that offer that feature
Posted by adamizer
Have you talked with your lineprovider, or the company you belong to and check if they support two lines for speaking? I know there are lines that support extra lines for fax etc. but i dont know if they support talklines on your sim. IF they do, the next issue would be the phone and that is were we are at, at this point. Lets s4e what we can dig up.
Posted by shawnmccall9
yep, that is the problem, my service provider, T-Mobile (formerly Voicestream) does not support more than a single voice line...hell they don't even support fax and data lines. All T-Mobile lets you have is one voice line, that's it...the other three numbers are not supported by them. ATT doesn't support this either and Cingular does only in select markets, which I am not fortunate enough to live in
Posted by adamizer
Hi. Sm9! Im sorry to say that the reply I got from the :se: guys didnt clear anything up. they didnt know! I guess I have goto other sources. Ill make another try. But it isnt over untill it is confirmed. ;-)
Posted by Deric
I'll look into AT&T but I seriously doubt it, since we seldom will do it on a TDMA phone. Knowing them, it's probably in the software, but policy prevents it.
Posted by wapchimp
@ shawnmccall9
I feel sorry for all u guys in th US - have n't some of the networks over there only recently discovered text messaging, & some don't even support it yet!!
Posted by wapchimp
line 2 should be a standard gsm feature aswell - not alot of networks support this though - some handsets are made with line 2 capability - like the T68
Posted by bjambean
I agree with orangeman's post regarding Orange being unique in offering two separate voice lines. I have had this feature for about 2 years and it is really handy. I have a number for business and a separate number and answerphone for pleasure.
Unfortunately like orangeman said, the second line does not support additional features such as text messaging, so all of my messages have to be sent from my first line.
But being able to know what kind of person is calling you as soon as you see which line they are calling (regardless of whether their number is whitheld or not) is ectremely helpful - it basically means I don't shout 'yo' to clients when they decide to call me on my days off
The main advantage is that you have two separate bills and can choose two completely different tariffs. So I can choose a tariff with loads of peak time minutes to call colleagues and business contacts and then a tariff like everyday 50 that gives me 50 minutes every evening to contact friends after work - Not to mention, the tariff on the second line is heavily discounted I think by about 55% - Is that about right Orangeman?
Posted by wapchimp
just about right mate - line 2 is discounted by Ģ5.00 - so the % differs depending on tariff & only orange offer this service in the UK - thats what sets them appart from other UK operators
Posted by adamizer
Hi shawnmc i found this browsing the net.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/downloads/R520mUGI-R3A-EN.pdf
There is a page (113-)indicating that your only problem would be the operator.
My se friends didnt work there any more so they couldnt help.
they worked the t28.
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Posted by shawnmccall9
yep, that is really what I was asking about which operators support alternate line service. I found that it appears that Cingular does, but only in the Carolina markets.
Posted by adamizer
Im sorry that I cant be of any help.
U have to gather some peps and storm ur providers office and claim a second line then. goodluck
Posted by shawnmccall9
I'll keep that in mind...storming the corporate headquarters, huh?
Posted by adamizer
Yup, a hostile takeover....
Posted by Owen
Read this..... this link was provided by Arus...
http://www.inex-tw.net/product3.htm
It's about a sim-copy device.. you could copy 2 sims 2 one sim.. Means you have both numbers on 1 sim...
Just read it..
Cheers
Posted by adamizer
Very interesting, I think. Whats the price and can we clone ourselves?
Posted by shawnmccall9
I emailed the company. I wonder how it works? can you use both numbers at the same time? like call waiting and stuff?
Posted by rj
shawn, im pretty sure you have to turn off your phone before using the other number. receiving calls? it will show as line1 or line 2 depending on which one is active when you receive phone calls.
Posted by porterg
Keep an eye out for the new "GAIT" phones. May also be called multi network. Cingular has 3 phones out in the Carolinas right now, and I believe Indiana, which work on GSM and TDMA 850mhz and 1900Mhz. Don't know when going to be in Chicago. Or whether Chicago and other analog/TDMA markets will offer alternate line service. The sims and phones will support it, and so does the software, so maybe you'll get lucky. Don't know when the launch will be, but it is coming in within the next year.
Posted by shawnmccall9
cool, thanks