Posted by NatroN
Hi!
I've bought the SE Music Cable (MMC - 60).
But there is no auto detection if the cable is plugged in or not.
When i plug in my Headset, the proflies switches to "Headset" but nothing happens when i plug in the MMC - 60.
I want to use the Phone as MP3 Player in my Car. But switching the profile everytime i want to hear Music is a little bit circuitous.
Is there a way to switch profile automatically?
NatroN
Posted by max_wedge
once you plug something into the mmc-60 it will activate the profile automatically, just like headsets do on the hpm-70 (but not when nothing is plugged in) .
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Posted by fu1at
i think he mean is the player switch profile automatically... not the phone.
Posted by NatroN
sorry
my problem:
When i plug in my headset, everythink works fine. The phone activates the "Headset" profile.
But when i plug in de Music Cable the Phone doesn't change the profile. The cable works, but the phone doesn't switch profile.
Posted by max_wedge
so you plug the music in, in comes through the stereo, but your phone doesn't change profile? I'm not understanding the problem - as far as I can see it won't make any difference - whether the phone is on handsfree or normal, it should still play the music.
Posted by max_wedge
I just bought the mmc-60 and it doesn't prompt a profile change. Still works fine, though it means you can't use the music button, since it doesn't recognise a "headset" attached.
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Posted by randomtask77
Plugging in the MMC-60 into the K750i doesn't induce any kind of a Profile change. It doesn't even show if you look in the 'Accessories' menu (it says that no accessory is connected to the phone).
If you're trying to connect it to your car and there is no music playing through your car speakers, it might have something to do with your car radio.
When I leave the house, I have the music playing on my phone, hop in the car, change the source on my car radio (to accept an outside source which is my phone), plug in the cable and I hear it through my car speakers. No profile change, I didn't even have to touch the buttons on the phone. Just plugged it in and done.
Posted by max_wedge
yes there is no need to change the profile at all (either automatically or manually). The music will play regardless the profile selected.
Posted by TeenInvader
What happens when u recieve the call. Does the music stop?
May that what he need profile change for?
Anyway I don't need any profile change even if I use headset I disabled headset profile.
Posted by randomtask77
Yes if you make/receive a call, the music will stop. Also if you receive any kind of messaging (SMS, MMS, etc) the music will also stop. But if won't stop if you're sending messages.
Posted by max_wedge
it'll stop but since the mmc-60 has no mike you have to detach to use the phone
Posted by rockygali
is this mmc-60 has alternatives? or are these products only available in SE shops?
Posted by private_ryan
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YES, there is an alternative and it costs cheaper than buying the mmc-60!
First, you must have an adapter like the one that comes with W800i package (hpm-70 adapter) or any 2.5mm stereo adapter (most have no built-in mic) like the one below.
Then, secure (2) mtrs. stereo cable or any length you want, (1) 2.5mm stereo connector and (2) RCA jacks (red & black).
Below is a sample of metal 2.5mm stereo connector.
Then, connect/solder the 2.5mm stereo connector and 2 RCA jacks to the stereo cable at both ends as illustrated hereunder.
If you do not want to make it by yourself, this stereo cable connector is always available in the market. But its fun if you can invent it by yourself!
Hope this would help you somehow.
good luck mate.
Posted by max_wedge
it's true it's cheaper to buy a 3.5mm adapter but the mmc-60 isn't very expensive anyway, and much better audio quality. Also, handmade cables are okay if you have good soldering skills, but if you are a beginner I wouldn't recommend making your own.
Besides, you can actually buy 3.5mm to rca cables ready made for cheaper than the components you'd need to buy to make your own
so by the time you make your own cable and buy an adapter, you could have bought the mmc-60 and have change left over. 
Posted by private_ryan
here in us, mmc-60 is quite expensive it costs more or less Php2,000.00 and in order to be sure that you're buying the original one is you must buy it only from SE authorized dealers which are very few and the stock is very limited too.
so you need to seek for a fair alternative like the one i presented. buying an adapter would only cost you at about Php600.00. then if you would decide to buy or make your own 2.5mm to rca cable that would cost at about Php200.00 so that you will have a good stereo cable (same as mmc-60!) at about Php800.00 only.
by that you'll have more than 50% savings rather than buying the mmc-60 and you'll surely get the same performance and sound quality!:)
it's a practical alternative in fact!:)
Posted by max_wedge
I'm sorry but I have to disagree about the sound quality. A self made cable and cheap 3.5mm converter will only barely match the hpm70, if not worse. Yet the MMC-60 is way better quality audio transfer than the hpm70, so I can't see your solution offering the same audio quality as the mmc-60.
By all means it may be an alternative for someone trying to save a buck, but it's not a better alternative technically speaking. And I'd be surprised if you can build a cable cheaper than buying one. Here in Australia, You can get such 3.5mm to rca cables for $5, where as a length of cable, two rca jacks and a 3.5mm jack will cost atleast $8 (more if you use gold plated connectors).
And at $23 the mmc-60 is about twice the cost of the adapter and cable you suggest, for substantially better audio quality. I personally think the extra cost is worth it. And even if I went with the fastport to 3.5mm adapter I wouldn't bother making my own cable (which will cost me more) I'd just buy one off the shelf. Believe me I like modding shit like the best of them, but why bother with something as trivial as a 3.5mm to rca adapter lead? I'd rather spend the time doing more mods to my Car-100
I'm not arguing that your suggestion won't work; it will. And I'm not arguing that it isn't a cheaper alternative; it is. However, it simply won't offer the same audio quality as the mmc-60.
I'd strongly advise anyone who can afford to spend the extra to make their own cable, actually put that money towards the mmc-60 rather than chance wasting it by building a cable that offers too high resistance because the soldering isn't 100% (audio connections are very demanding and must be perfect or signal loss will result).
Believe me audio soldering is critical. Building your own audio cables is not for the beginner. Not if you want any sort of reasonable audio quality.
Posted by randomtask77
I was able to use my phone even with the cable attached. Though I'm not having the conversation through the car speakers, I was just holding the phone as I would regularly.
Posted by max_wedge
okay, that's good news. I guess that's why it doesn't change to handsfree profile - because then the mike would be disabled as it is when a handsfree is attached (to use the mike on the handsfree)
Since it doesn't switch to handsfree, when a call comes in audio functions revert back to the phone, not the cable.
Posted by private_ryan
i actually made my own 3.5mm to rca cable, so far i haven't experience any problem regarding sound quality. soldering doesn't require any skills anyway
my 11-year old nephew already knew how to use the soldering iron.
what i am trying to point out that there is always a good alternative solution in every problem that one might encounter. like for instance, if you have already an adapter like the hpm-70 (that has a built-in mic), you can either BUY (the ready made one) or MAKE (if you wish) a 3.5mm to rca cable. that would save you a buck rather than buying an mmc-60!
so if you're a beginner and don't know how to solder, then, buy only the ready made 3.5mm to rca cable instead of buying a new mmc-60 then connect it to your hpm-70 adapter. That's it.
that's the point, and that is why it is being called an ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION as what @rockygali is asking for.
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Posted by rockygali
ei guys no need chasin around the bushes... thanx for tha replies!!!
thanx PrivateRyan! i really planning to make my own one... i just need someone to confirm if its workin fine without hiccups... glad you did, and so be it!
adios compadres! till next time!
Posted by max_wedge
fair nuff
Still, here in Australia, as I said, it's more expensive to make your own, unless you already have spare components (you still had to pay for 'em somewhere along the line).
And about the soldering, I disagree. Some people have an apptitude for it, but most beginner solderers make an ungodly mess. Audio cables with RCA plugs are more demanding than steel 3.5mm plugs with regard to signal attenuation. You need a good strong connection, otherwise the audio quality will be no better than a 3.5mm connection. There is a reason RCA plugs are used in stereo equipment; it provides much better signal transfer than 3.5mm plugs.
Obviously you have done a good job on yours. But until you test against an mmc-60 you can't say your cable and adapter give as good a connection as a single mmc-60 lead. As I said, the difference in mmc-60 and the hpm70 is marked - the mmc-60 is quite a bit better in audio quality. I can tell, and I'm no audio expert.
To make you own mmc-60 (to give the same audio quality as the real thing), you would need to use gold plated rca plugs, and to avoid the break where the 3.5mm adapter plugs into the cable, you would require a fastport connector as well. (Breaks introduce attentuation as well).
So your cable works fine on an adapter or even a hpm-70, but it still doesn't rival the audio quality possible with a true mmc-60. Another disadvantage with the home made cable, it doesn't have molded rubber plugs, so the cable has to be treated with care so as not to stress the connections. A manufacturer cable is more durable.
I'm not dissing your effort or information, it is certainly an option. I'm only pointing out that audio quality is better with a true mmc-60, and that in some cases it may actually be more expensive to make you own cable.