Posted by masseur
I've read a few sites today discussing that the iPod Nano screen scratches incredibly easy, for example this C/Net article where they even mention one company who have raised the price of their screen repair "due to LCD availability and overwhelming demand."
I've never had an iPod but this one did interest me, if not for myself, for my kids for Christmas
Are there any Esato members who are experiencing such problems?
Posted by Jim
My Ipod (40gb) has allways been in an Ipod sock (yeah I bought them for fun) and it's scratched, even at the white part ...
The features are great but the quality of plastic and it's design suck (imo), at least it's strongly built.
Posted by amnesia
i didn't believe it at first but
i've kept mine in a very soft baggy cotton sleeve and only taken it out of the home once.
I handle it delicately.
And I've got a very fine scratch and a wierd little hairball type scratch.
*sighs*
I'm not touching it until Apple release their tubes.
Posted by batesie
every single ipod ive seen is scratched. bit of a design flaw in my opinion. whereas my Sony HD5 looks as new as the day i bought it
Posted by amnesia
my 3g is scratched but it took a while, the nano is just amazing! How the hell does it scratch so easily.
Posted by batesie
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Ahh, no this is screen cracking! hundreds of people have been complaining that the screens have cracked just buy having the in there pocket. People even that 'babysit' there ipod nano with the upmost of care....
Seems that as its extremly thin, the screen has barely any tolerence and will crack under light pressure.
Posted by Jim
And screen scratching ...
Posted by batesie
indeed both look like there big issues....
if you put 'ipod nano' into Google News, all you get is:
Complaints Pile Up Over Nano's Display
iPod nano 'screen issues'
iPod nano 'damages easily'
iPod Nano "faulty", say customers
Alleged problems surfacing with Apple iPod Nano screen
doesnt look good for the Nano or should i say Nono
Posted by 50Cent
Are there any cases out there that can prevent this? like the Agent 18 shockproof ones that have been released for previous ipods?
Rgds
Posted by solidsingh
i have a solution, buy that slick new sony one
Posted by batesie
well just to compare the iPod Nano to the Sony NW-HD5
the Nano has a colour screen and is half the weight of the HD5 but.....
iPod Nano
90 x 40 x 7 mm
Sony HD5
90 x 56 x 14 mm
Twice as thick yet roughly the same size!!
Yet the Sony has a 20Gb HDD and the Nano only has up to 4Gb
Then theres the battery life. Sony has put up to 40 hours into theirs
Then theres the durabilty. the sony's Magnesium Alloy is strong light and almost scratch proof.
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Posted by solidsingh
batesie - the nano has up to 4gb
Posted by batesie
cheers edited, well still, 4gb or 20gb?
Posted by solidsingh
but i think apple had the best design with the click wheel, if sony had the click wheel it would be all over for apple
Posted by Cycovision
It could still be all over the ipod regardless of it's click wheel or these latest problems with the nano. People are finally realising that there are much better players out there at more reasonable prices. Fashions change, and that's about the only thing that the ipod series had going for it, it was seen as a fashion accessory.
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Posted by methylated_spirit
I've never had any trouble with my Shuffle, and it's taken some abuse, but my friend got a Nano recently and within days it was scratched, and she treats it with utmost care, its really more of a geeky fad gadget than an mp3 player. Its not really suitable for everyday use.
Posted by batesie
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well it would be quite difficult to damage a shuffle's screen
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Posted by Johnex
@bat: :-D....yeah.
Posted by Jim
So, masseur, still want an ipod for your kids ?
Posted by slattery69
its a shame liked the look of the nano and was interested in getting one, dont think ill bother now.
its a shame that the aac format is hard for other manufacturers to put in there machines as mp3 just dont cut the mustard with me at anything below 192kbps and realisitcally they should be around 320 for a decent sound.
but ill keep looking and seeing if any prices drop or if any other maker get aac on there players
Posted by tomcoolj
I've got a Nano Black - scratched - gonna try and take it back
Posted by p900 lover
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what sony 1 is it?
Posted by 50Cent
Sony NW-HD5
as stated
Posted by slattery69
i think its the sony one thats in the first or second line of his reply
the NW hd5.
its not badly priced ive seen it for £169 which for 20gb compared to the ipods at that price which will get you a 6gb one
still only plays mp3 and that crap sony format which name escapes me
Posted by 50Cent
@slattery69
is aac the one ur thinking of?
Posted by slattery69
@50 cent
no aac is a decent format probably the best available except apple lossless which is great but the file sizes are huge
the sony one is something like atrac and is quite average and slow to encode and the results arent really worth the wait. unless its been changed since i last tried it a few years back
Posted by ijefferies
Think sony are now up to atrak 3. Previous iterations were on md and hi-md. Not tried at3 myself, but various reports i've read ranked it pretty poorly.
Posted by batesie
Atrac Type-R now. sounds on a par with AAC
buy i use high bit rate encoded mp3's as i like good quality music...
Posted by kk.226
You are not alone!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4286294.stm
Posted by riffola
I have a 10GB second generation iPod (the one with the buttons around the wheel, it was the first iPod that officially worked with Windows). After 2.5 years, it's holding up really well. The chrome back has a few scratches, but the front is almost perfect, no major unsightly scratches, just a few hairline scratches but nothing that reduces the usability in the slightest.
As for the iPod nanos, I saw a few at the Apple store here in NYC, and they were all looking terrible compared to other iPod demo models. One of my friends on the other side of the country was complaining about how his nano was scratched when he was gently cleaning it with a microfiber cloth!
The iPod nano's front plastic is made from a softer material than regular iPods it seems.
Posted by batesie
'Apple admits to iPod Nano faults'- BBC News
Electronics firm Apple has admitted there have been problems with its new iPod Nano music player, after a string of complaints about damaged screens.
The smaller version of the popular iPod was hailed as a design breakthrough when it was unveiled a few weeks ago, with the cheapest model costing £140.
But users are now asking whether it is too fragile for everyday use.
Apple has conceded there is a problem with one batch of Nanos and is offering buyers full refunds or replacements.
However, it has refused to say how many of the gadgets are faulty.
Until now, the burden of compensating people who bought the faulty devices has rested on retailers.
Owners are complaining about cracked, scratched or inexplicably failing screens, sometimes within hours of buying the machine.
FULL STORY FROM THE BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4286294.stm
Posted by Jools
Apple responds to iPod nano screen concerns
http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/09/27/nanoscreen/index.php
Since being introduced almost four weeks ago the iPod nano has taken the MP3 market by storm, earning accolades from reviewers and industry analysts alike, but not everyone is completely satisfied. Some customers have complained about scratched and/or broken screens on their iPod nano, leading one user to even set up a Web site to outline his problems.
Apple’s Senior Vice President of Worldwide Product Marketing Phil Schiller said there are two completely separate issues going on here. One is the broken screen and the other is the complaint about the iPod screen scratches.
iPod nano owner Matthew Peterson setup his Web site, flawedmusicplayer.com (formerly ipodnanoflaw.com), to share his grievances about his broken iPod nano screen. Peterson invited others to send in pictures of their iPod nano screens, which he posted to the Web site.
In addressing the broken screens, the first of the two issues, Apple said that they have tracked down the problem.
“This is a real but minor issue involving a vendor quality problem in a small number of units,” said Schiller. “In fact, this issue has affected less than 1/10 of 1 percent of the total iPod nano units that we’ve shipped. It is not a design issue.”
Schiller said that if customers find they have this problem, all they have to do is contact AppleCare and their iPod will be replaced.
The second issue deals with complaints posted on Web sites that say the iPod nano screen scratches too easy, perhaps even being more susceptible to scratching than previous iPod models.
Apple said that the screens on the iPod nano are made with the same material that is found in the company’s fourth-generation iPod, which, to date, is complaint free.
“We have received very few calls from customers reporting this problem – we do not think this is a widespread issue,” said Schiller. “If customers are concerned about scratching we suggest they use one of the many iPod nano cases to protect their iPod.”
Posted by batesie
Apple's iPod Nano screen woes deepen - The Register
OK, let's see if we can find some good news about the iPod Nano. Hey, here's some: Jim Allchin, head of Microsoft's Windows division, bought one the day it came out. Talk about sleeping with the enemy!
Umm...oh. He says it stopped working after a day. "They have moisture issues," he said. (You're really not supposed to take it into the shower, Mr Allchin.)
OK, er... the high street chain Dixons says it was selling an average of five per minute over the weekend. That's more like it! Except... the story that first appeared here last week, about how amazingly easily the screen scratches, has spread far and wide, and so far down the food chain that even local and national newspapers have written about it. Oh dear.
More importantly, the post on Apple's discussion boards discussing the issue has grown from 188 posts to 583 (at last count), and now includes people who have cancelled their orders. Ooooh dear.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/[....]/27/ipod_nano_more_scratching/
Posted by Johnex
So apart from the screen scratching easyly, does the actual body get scratched?
Posted by Jools
Bearing in mind that the iPod nano is made from exactly the same materials as all previous iPods (with screens), there's no reason to believe that these models are any more or less scratch prone than previous models.
I can't vouch for the nano as I don't own one, but my current and my previous iPods (spanning 3+ years of use) are almost scratch-free. Certainly nothing any worse than I would expect from daily use of any electronic gadget (including my mobile phones.)
Maybe I just take better care of my gadgets, but none of my mobiles, my iPods or my PSP has scratches that bother me - and I'm VERY fussy about such things!
Apple have acknowledge now that there is a problem with the screens on a very small 0.01% of nano screens, which will be replaced under warranty. The scratching is a separate matter, and personally I believe its more down to how well you take care of it.
All plastic/polycarbonate/metal products can be scratched if they come into contact with harder abrasive materials. (Grit on table tops and in pockets, metal studs on jeans etc.)
Also, the black iPod nano is outselling the white by a considerable margin. I would assume that marks show up on black more than white if my PSP is anything to go by.
Posted by Glenny
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cheesy.... that was a very cheesy line
Posted by Jools
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