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Posted by derick123m
Dear Friends, I am using a combo of 6600/Airtel GPRS prepaid@ Rs.5 perday / infrared connectivity which is quite satisfactory, but the speed is 9.6 kbps. Can the speed by augmented using a bluetooth connectivity or subscribing to full internet or any other method to increase data transfer speed. I use both laptop as well as Desktop PC.


Posted by whizkidd
Hi!
Welcome to Esato!

I'd say 9.6 kbps is pretty good for a gprs dial up setup.
I get only 3-4 kbps.

And using bt won't really help much because bt only helps transfer of data between the modem (6600 in your case) and the pc and not the network speed.

EDGE it seems is the only way out for faster data speeds.

Posted by derick123m
Thanks Whizkidd, but i would like to point out that the i can see the message "airtel connected at 115000 bps" but when i try to set my IR cable max. connection to to more than 9600 bps the modem is not recognized and the IR icon which is in the task tray disappear, when i reinstate the max conn speed to 9600 bps, it re-appears. So, i think the IR cable is an impeding the speed, hence my query and your reply also says blue tooth helps tol transfer more data between the modem and the PC, in fact i wanted more data to flow between the PC and modem as the ir cable was restricting the flow. Anyway i would be experimenting with BT and keep u informed. Thanks buddy.

Posted by sailaab
@derek> Point 1> a toughie- Talk to Airtel CC, asking them to give 'Practical' answer- whether network in your locality and THE handset cud do it under normal conditions (NOT just their 'ideal' conditions). #Point2> A chain is as strong as the weakest link. At user end, speeds can be good with Data Cable-> BlueTooth-> InfraRed Port. #Point3> Your msgs about 115000 speeds.. do you also believe everything said by Fairness Cream advts. too?Then- just be content.Coz rated max benifits are ALWAYS with IFs & BUTs

Posted by deluded
If you're certain of the max speed your gprs, then the bottleneck could be occurring between your modem and your pc. In this case, bluetooth would help. Clarify with your service provider first.

Posted by petrutms
9,6 kbps???? that`s damn slow. I get about 50 kbps on Orange GPRS . With Edge i get 150-180 easy.

Posted by has33
@petrutms...is dat d connection speed U r talking about or d download speed cause through dis CBMA phone I get 115KBps connection speed & when I m downloading it shows @30KBps...even at dis cuz lan connection it shows connected at 100MBps but downloads at 128KBps.
Pls clarify cause I m thinking of getting an edge enabled handset only 4 internet.

Posted by Dr.pratikB.
First of all edge is not implemented in airtel mumbai.It's only for airtel live tv.I am telling from my personal experience ,i connected my 6630(class 10 edge handset)to toshiba laptop by supplied dku-2 usb cable.On connecting,it said connection at 250kbps.Actual speed was not more than 15 kbps in night.At day time,it max out at 10kbps.So i dont see point in getting edge enabled handset only for this purpose of airtel.And now they charge 400 bucks per month for 100mb so i will say using mtnl broadband for 500 rs per month,and 1gb download cap is much better deal.In my ho.

Posted by has33
@ Dr.pratikB.
"mtnl broadband for 500 rs per month, and 1gb download cap".....at what connection speed 256 or 512? And actual dload speed? And what after 1GB is over???
I ve been considering getting a bband connection & deciding between sifi, hathway & 7 star.
Rightnow I m using Tata cdma @ 115kbps with dload speed @ max 30 & min 15 but become expensive @ 40 paisa/min.

Posted by yingtam
I get about 40 kbit/sec is this bad?

Posted by rakesh5295
i have airtel connection. i m form mumbai. the speed is around 27kilo bits. i have nokia 3230 which is edge enabled. i had called the help line and told them about lower speeds and they said they would be looking into the matter and acc. to them a edge enabled handset must get speeds around 50kb atleast. i have subscribed for mobile office which is @ rs. 12 per day here but data download is unlimited. does anybody know any setting or anything by which i can get good speeds.

Posted by ambyzown
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On 2005-09-27 05:32:28, derick123m wrote:
Thanks Whizkidd, but i would like to point out that the i can see the message "airtel connected at 115000 bps" .......


That message just tells you the maximum achievable modem speed, and can be changed or altered under advanced options in modem properties. Usually a good gprs connection should give you between 8-10kbps. Which isn't bad I must say. I'm getting 2-4.5kbps peak and approximately 7kbps off peak.

Posted by sudipt
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On 2005-12-06 12:53:29, rakesh5295 wrote:
i have airtel connection. i m form mumbai. the speed is around 27kilo bits. i have nokia 3230 which is edge enabled. i had called the help line and told them about lower speeds and they said they would be looking into the matter and acc. to them a edge enabled handset must get speeds around 50kb atleast. i have subscribed for mobile office which is @ rs. 12 per day here but data download is unlimited. does anybody know any setting or anything by which i can get good speeds.


Rakesh,
Using the N 3230(EDGE), in mumbai you should be getting a connectivity speed of around 128kbps, more than 10Kb/s download speed. I used to get those speeds around 1 month back. Now the speed is barely 40~50kbps, with download speed< 5kb/s. I have checked in various areas of Mumbai, and Navi Mumbai. The speed remains the same.Can someone confirm any problems with Airtel Mumbai of recent. I called Customer Service, and tech support, they say they have forwarded the problem. Nothing is being done....

Posted by mrao
hmm... looks like im gettin pretty decent speeds then.... 7 - 8 KBps without an edge enabled device

Posted by fr3e2sm0k3
On Connex-Vodafone i get 53.6 kbps and an real download speed of 6 KB/s and derik i think the limitation is from the transfer phone 2 pc by irda ..anyway call you operator and ask him what's the speed capable over gprs

Posted by JK
With a K700 I gwt 4kbps and K750 20 to up to 50kbps... not sure why... any1 heard of gprs+?? I think maybe thats whats making it faster...

Posted by sudipt
I'm using a Nokia 9300, which is Class 10 GPRS handset with EGRPS (Edge). I use a dku-2 to connect it to my PC. IR is slower than USB cable

[ This Message was edited by: sudipt on 2005-12-22 09:04 ]

Posted by sudipt
Quote:

On 2005-09-30 04:15:00, Dr.pratikB. wrote:
First of all edge is not implemented in airtel mumbai.It's only for airtel live tv.I am telling from my personal experience ,i connected my 6630(class 10 edge handset)to toshiba laptop by supplied dku-2 usb cable.On connecting,it said connection at 250kbps.Actual speed was not more than 15 kbps in night.At day time,it max out at 10kbps.So i dont see point in getting edge enabled handset only for this purpose of airtel.And now they charge 400 bucks per month for 100mb so i will say using mtnl broadband for 500 rs per month,and 1gb download cap is much better deal.In my ho.


Dr. Pratik, Airtel Mumbai has implemented EGDE- atleast that's what they claim. Airtel Mumbai, says GRPRS download speed should be around 14~18kb/s and connectivity speed of around 200kbps
However I get dl speeds now around 3~4kb/s and connectivity speed (as tested) of around 28kbps (peak time) and 40kbps (non-peak) which is pathetic by EDGE standards....
I'm also considering other options...
I use a N9300 with dku-2 USB cable.
Thanks (anyone facing a similar speed problem with Airtel Mumbai?)

Posted by mrao
@sudipt... i get twice that speed with a non EDGE device...and ive changed 6 devices over the past 12 months..on the same network ...so it probably has to do with the device you're using ... Nokia, is it

Posted by shyam335
Twice? The best im able to get is 6kBps during off peak,during peak it goes down to 2.I tried several phones btw.
So edge should give you around 18kBps during off peak and around 10 during peak .Im on airtel btw.

Posted by Residentevil
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On 2005-10-10 20:26:00, yingtam wrote:
I get about 40 kbit/sec is this bad?



That is actually very good. GPRS can give you 30..50kbps. EDGE 60..80kbps.

Posted by ambyzown
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On 2005-12-24 08:30:27, Residentevil wrote:
That is actually very good. GPRS can give you 30..50kbps. EDGE 60..80kbps.


What does this translate to in KBps? I find it easier to comprehend actual download speeds.

Posted by whizkidd
I get PATHETIC speeds of 2-5 kBps with gprs dial up...

Posted by ambyzown
Thanks Mikkyroy, Invaluable info.

Posted by mrao
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On 2005-12-25 01:33:49, mikkyroy wrote:
@amby: to get approx. transfer speeds in KBps, divide d network speeds (in kbps) by 8. so if u have say a 40kbps connection, ur actual download speed would hover around 5KBps which imho is fair for a gprs dial-up connection.




@shyam, this is what i meant when i said i get twice the speed, in comparison with sudipt s 15 kbps with an EDGE phone

Posted by gojnik064
In theory you should achieve a max link speed of 40.2kbps and 13.4kbps for upload, thats for 3+1 gprs enabled device. And then the network operator could cut your download to maybe 2 channels and you achieve only 26.8kbps. Also the serial IR is capable of 115.2bps , enough to suport a 3+1 gprs.


Posted by sudipt
@mrao- I mentioned a dl speed of 15kb/s, not the connectivity speed. Connectivity speed on an EDGE network with an EDGE enabled handset would go upto 180kbps~200kbps.
If you say that you get twice the speed~ pls elaborate

Posted by ambyzown
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On 2005-12-26 10:41:31, gojnik064 wrote:
...Also the serial IR is capable of 115.2bps , enough to suport a 3+1 gprs.



What exactly is 3+1 gprs?

Posted by sudipt
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On 2006-01-02 17:34:32, ambyzown wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-12-26 10:41:31, gojnik064 wrote:
...Also the serial IR is capable of 115.2bps , enough to suport a 3+1 gprs.



What exactly is 3+1 gprs?


Slots(channels) for data coming to and going from the phone.

Posted by sudipt
Bad news for Airtel Mumbai GPRS users:- Just got it confirmed from an Airtel GPRS Engineer that there is a bandwidth allocation problem, hence the slow speed... They are working on the problem... dunno it might take ages! and Airtel is talking about a 3G network here... a sad joke! They can't handle the EDGE bandwidth.
Thinking on moving to DSL/ Hutch maybe;)

Posted by mrao
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On 2005-12-31 08:33:56, sudipt wrote:
@mrao- I mentioned a dl speed of 15kb/s, not the connectivity speed. Connectivity speed on an EDGE network with an EDGE enabled handset would go upto 180kbps~200kbps.
If you say that you get twice the speed~ pls elaborate



I already have....a few posts prior to this one....i average 5 to 7 KBps...which is a minimum of 40 kbps...which is actually more than twice the 15 kbps you mentioned Im presuming you meant 15 KBps Theres a difference between Kilobytes per sec and kilobits per sec

Posted by ambyzown
thank you sudipt. is 3 1 the standard for all gprs devices or only for enhanced?

Posted by sudipt
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On 2006-01-02 21:04:34, ambyzown wrote:
thank you sudipt. is 3 1 the standard for all gprs devices or only for enhanced?



This message was posted from a WAP device



Amby, giving you the specification of my phone data capabilities:-
GPRS multislot class 10 (max 4+1, 3+2 time slots), speed up to 53.6 kbps.
EGPRS (EDGE) multislot class 10 (max 4+1, 3+2 time slots), speed up to 236.8 kbps.


Posted by mrao
Thats the theoretical maximum...not necessarily so in real time network conditions

Posted by sudipt
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On 2006-01-02 21:24:00, mrao wrote:
Thats the theoretical maximum...not necessarily so in real time network conditions




True, especially if you have Network Operators like Airtel Mumbai!
Airtel Stinks!

Posted by shyam335
I thought there was class 12 devices (especially from motorola) ,which is the maximum in theory.
Btw,airtel gprs needs serious upgradation,speeds are way too slow at peak hours.

Posted by ambyzown
Thanks again Sudipt, but all that didn't make much sense to me. I'll do a search and read up on gprs and egprs technology.

Posted by whizkidd
@amby, perhaps This Article might interest you!

mrao, how and where do you check your gprs speed?
I did it on dslreport the other day and it reported a speed of 4 kBps which is around 32kbps..NOT BAD IS IT??

Posted by Residentevil
Here is some interesting stuff about GSM speed. And other cool stuff.
http://www.techgsm.com/art_GSM_Technologies_76.html


Posted by mrao
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On 2006-01-03 19:40:49, whizkidd wrote:
@amby, perhaps This Article might interest you!

mrao, how and where do you check your gprs speed?
I did it on dslreport the other day and it reported a speed of 4 kBps which is around 32kbps..NOT BAD IS IT??




Download a tool called Netmeter....it shows you upload/download speeds on real time basis from yer system tray

Posted by ambyzown
Thanks a lot whiz, that article cleared up the fog.
I also use dslreport for speed testing.

Posted by sudipt
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On 2006-01-03 05:28:06, shyam335 wrote:
I thought there was class 12 devices (especially from motorola) ,which is the maximum in theory.
Btw,airtel gprs needs serious upgradation,speeds are way too slow at peak hours.



Shyam, I can confirm I have come across Chips from Ti-OMAP 750 & ARM too have chips which support class12 GPRS.

Posted by whizkidd
Mrao....thanks for the netmeter idea...pretty good app.

Posted by carkitter
I have Compaq laptop connected to dial-up internet (50 kbps) via K700i and Bluetooth connection. MS XP SP2 and K700i allow serial port speed of 400+ kbps when using GPRS (from VodafoneNZ) or 14.4 kbps when connected by VF WAP (9.6 kbps with my wife's Z600 on WAP).
GPRS in NZ is 53 kbps, optimised to approx 90kbps - I've tested it, I got 95 kbps on a ADSL(256 kbps) internet connection.
3G in NZ is 384 kbps, optimised up tp approx 500 kbps. Unfortunately, reception is not available where I live.

I dial *99# to connect to GPRS, and a number supplied by my ISP to connect to VF WAP (not recommended).

Posted by Mobile3g
I believe if you get 16kbits effective throughput on GPRS it is good. EDGE will give you much more with good coverage.

www.3g.co.za
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