Posted by gadgetboytom
3650 looks like the same spec as the 7650i so that leaves 3 more colour nokias to be released
i really hope
can fight back with some decent replacments
the t68i is getting old now, sure its a mental phone i have one!! but products in the lo cost sector being of simlar spec to the 3650 its going to be hard for
to compete
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Posted by panda
SonyEricsson is simply taking too long time to release T200, 300 and 600. P800 is a good sophisticated machine but too expensive for the vast majority of consumers. Unless SE changes their tactics, they will face a serious trouble soon.
Posted by Superluminova
well nokia have totally out foxed sony ericsson. a year a go nokia had no colour screen phones now they have 5! sony Ericsson has 2 basic 256 colour screen phones (t68i & t300) and 1, 4096 colour screen (p800).
All nokias colour screen phones (7650, 7210, 6610, 3650 & 3510i) are 4096 full colour screens, all apart from the 7650 have express-on covers, which the genral public love's, all have mms, which nokia will bring to the mass market.
nokia have won. sony ericsson will most likley go out of business pretty soon unless they can strike back will some killer mass market phones.
[ This Message was edited by: Superluminova on 2002-09-06 13:38 ]
Posted by Johan
Sony Ericsson and Ericsson have always been falling companies .. and now its getting even tougher..
They better come up with something good, and improve the quality on the handsets or else they´re finished..
Posted by Heiper
With the new phones Nokia are coming up with, I can't see SE living as a company much longer. These new phones target the big market, and are ALOT better than SE's phones at the same market. A shame, cuz I've loved the T68 i have now, but I don't think this company will last much longer.
-Heiper-
Posted by Bajie
Definitely true.
SE should make some funky cases leave the internals alone and give them away free with some crunchy nut cornflakes ...
How many people are buying the 7650. How many are pissed off it doesn't have bluetooth and the keyboard is crap.
Ericsson have unfortunately always made phones targetted at business users [whatever that means]. Another sad example of this is Apple, who, no matter how great looking a machine they make will never sell in droves.
Marketing strategy is attrocious.
Everyone wants a P800. When it gets here it will be too late and too expensive.
Posted by Superluminova
@ Bajie:
about your signiture? its strange, didn't the ark save mankind and all the animals and didn't the titanic sink on her maden voyage? so i think it sould be the other way about
Remember:
Amateurs built the Titanic.
Professionals built the Ark.
Posted by caff
Sony Ericsson need to release the T300 asap or otherwise the 3510i will be the winner for the colour screen low-end market.............I just hope that sony ericsson gonna come up with some more small phone with 4096 colour screen..........they need to fight back and release the products asap..........they just taken too long to release a new phone !!!!!
Posted by Froddan
Or then you might look at it this way
Nokia started with boots and tires, and now phones = amateurs
SE have nothing but phones = professionals
Titanic sank, the ark saved mankind
Posted by ICE
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Actually, they don't have MMS. They have an idiotic Nokia implementation of MMS which is just a subset of the real deal. They don't even support slides!!
/lug
Posted by Bajie
I'm almost positive the Ark was the first boat Noah built ...
Posted by manuela
YUPPIEEEEEE NOKIA RULESSSSS BABE!!!! so lets start to pray for SE!!! they are dead!!!they are still planing phones with uncolour displays or """"256 COMMUNIST""""" colour displays!!! they gonna have only P800 with 4096 colour!!! IF THEY SUCCEED TO PRODUCE AND SELL THE P 800 after CHRISE!!!LETS SAY UNTILL 2050!!!BYEEE SWEDENNNNN YOU ARE LOST FOREVER NOW!!!!! SUOMI RULES !!!!! KIITOSSSS MUN MAAA SUOMI TASAVALTA PRESITENTI MAUNO KOIVISTO
Posted by Froddan
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Hakkaa päälle Suomen poika...
Mutta Manu ei ole ollut pressa moneen vuoteen, nykyinen on nimeltään Tarja Halonen.
Actually I feel devided, I was born in Nokia-land, but been living in Ericsson-land for 12 years. Kinda like'm both
But in the end this is good for the consumer.
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what is it with the caps manuela, u cant find the caps lock?
nokia SUX, these bad phone 3510i and 3650 are really funny and nobody gonna buy them, stupid ugly phones, they r EXTREMELY FUNNY AND UGLY, the p800 is much better, if u compare them u will know, and nokia is lying, that thing they are putting on their phones isn't mms, it can't play slides, and doesnt send MIDIs, USELESS, the p800 is much better, and no bluetooth headset, what is this?
Posted by manuela
Dear ANAS!!!
sorry that I disturbed U!! with my CAPS-LOCK!! I was so exited a bout news,thats why!! please for give me ok!! do you like ananas?
Posted by 619
how come you guys keeps opening up new topics w/ the contents? all the nokia blah blah around... anyway..
Nokia is just catching up. I been seeing colors since dec 2001 while nokia introduced their 1st colored phone this july. Nokia will be having 5 colored phn- 7650, 7210, 6610, 3650 and 3510i but dont forget, 7210=6610 and 3510i is just an upgraded 3510.
7650 suck big time, no doubt abt it...
3650 looks like 1st generation philips genie phn i had 3 yrs ago.
and the keypad reminds me of our telephone before- rotary type.
7210 and 6610 are the same, no bluetooth, no email client.. etc
t39 and R520 has already bt, email client, syncml, ems
Maybe SE shld make T39i and R520i with colors and introduce as a new phn.
dont judge the phone by the lcd colors..
Posted by manuela
so Bluetooht,email all these functions still doesnt help SE?? nokia is leading like always! just think why?
Posted by anas
because 99% of people dont care about bluetooth, email, sync ml, etc.
most of the people care about the trendy design.
Posted by jb
Yep, people are just too ignorant. I don't only think nokia phones suck, I think nokia as company is harmful to the market.
In order to ever make things like gprs/wap/color hit big time in the west, nokia has to make color screen phones with gprs and wap. They won't do that unless they are being threatened, so SEMC etc has to start to make phones like these.
This is how now things are introduced in the mobile phone market. Usually SEMC releases a phone with great features but somehow manages to sell mediocerly. By the time nokia catches on, it will be slightly outdated.
Nokia DOESN'T EVER push a technology, they identify a market and tries to dominate it. That really sucks. One example is how wap was left out of 3310 to save a few bucks.
I-mode in japan was aggressively pushed, and became a success. The demand for SMS was ZERO before phones started to include that capability. The demand for something is ZERO if it is completely new and generally non-existant.
SEMC is the market leader because it PUSHES new technology. Nokia is just harmful to the market because it essentially sells sheep in wolves' clothing.
Posted by Super G
@ 619: Nokia's had the 9210 on the market before the T68. And btw, T68 was first released without MMS (though it was launched as supporting MMS), i.e. with a cosmetic color-screen, since you can't really make use of it apart from putting background pics. Note that 9210 has a web browser, hence the color screen can be used meaningfully.
@ jb, Japan and Europe are two very different arenas.
Don't forget that in Japan, operators hold the manufacturers. They know exactly what they want and order it from phone vendors. I-mode, since you raise it, is not much in itself, technologically speaking (it's very very similar to GSM data 9.6kbits per second), but tons of services are available! Dream on to get this in Europe... European operators still havent understood that a technology itself doesn't sell. Services sell. And they still havent understood that they just provide a carrier, and should open it to different and innovative service providers.
Now also, European operators blame Nokia because a technology can't sell as long as there is no Nokia phone supporting it. That makes me laugh a lot. These operators do not even have the technology ready before the phones are out!!! For instance they've blamed the lack of MMS handsets or GPRS handsets, while they didn't even provide MMS or GPRS as they were not even ready for it. C'mon!! They should take their own responsibilities and stop blaming others for their own fault.
The point is that Nokia has known how to use a technology. See e.g. picture messaging, ringtone download etc, via SMS! Operators are making a lot of money with this (Cingular for instance earns more with this than with normal phone calls!). And this has been copied through the EMS that others are now happily supporting. See also the success of Club Nokia. Again, operators are not happy with it. But hey, they don't even offer half of it...