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Posted by whizkidd
Dunno if this is appropriate posting this here..

Came across this site while surfing.. and i am extremely pained seeing all these atrocities committed on these dumb animals..

Remember that we are equal culprits too. Killing a chicken or a Turkey is no different from killing a dog for food.

I am turning vegetarian from this day.

I'm posting the link to the site here but do note that you'll come across some very graphic pictures.


Cruelty


Posted by JK
Killing a chicken is not the same as killing a dog!

I dont wana look at the pics!

Posted by whizkidd
Can you explain how is it different?



Posted by Jim
And we call ourself "human" ... Death penalty to cruelty, killing for food ok but not for fun or for cruelty.

Posted by JK
Chickens make eggs and U can eat them other than that they are useless!!
Eating and killing dogs are different they can serve a purpose... help the blind, protect people and find people/things. So as long as there are chickens theres no point in eating dogs!!!


Can u c d difference??

Posted by whizkidd
Hmmm... i have not heard of anyone killing a chicken for Eggs.

Its meat. Which we can do without.


Posted by JK
not for their eggs guy! for their meat!

Also chicken and fish are the healthier meat options for the human diet!!

So we need chickens!!

Posted by goldenface
What a horrible thing to do, eat a nice cute doggy.

Is this taking place South Korea or North Korea?

Doesn't this go on in China too?

Posted by whizkidd
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On 2005-09-06 11:49:36, 786KBR wrote:
not for their eggs guy! for their meat!

Also chicken and fish are the healthier meat options for the human diet!!

So we need chickens!!



How selfish is it? Taking the life of a defenceless creature to stay "healthy".

@goldenface, this is in Korea.. but there are pictures from other places too near the bottom.. how dogs are tortured in research facilities..

Posted by goldenface
I could give up red-meat very easily.

There are so many horror stories out there at the moment that it is almost enough to make you give up food altogether!

I love fish and I could give up chicken. I love vegetables too.

What with Mad Cow disease, pesticides and Steroids & Anitbiotics in beef.....

Posted by whizkidd
@goldenface, just last night i was enjoying Chicken masala, a punjabi dish at home...

Today morning i come across this site.
I won't be eating non veg from now onwards. Since We have other options.

They eat dogs, we eat chicken. I don't see any difference.

Posted by peeta
i think you can still eat meat and be against cruel treatment of animals.
yes all the meat we eat comes from an animal that was killed and therefore probably suffered in the process but that is a far cry from torturing animals.
i admit to being a hypocrit but there is a sliding scale of suffering, from treatment seen in the pictures (which is cruel no matter what animal it is done to) to putting an animal to sleep and then killing it.

eat free range meat if can't give it up and as little processed meat as possible.

Posted by JK
I will always eat chicken and lamb and beef!! yummmy!!
Springboks nice too!!



Posted by peeta
love your chicken eh?
Warning probably not best to be tucking into a chicken sandwich while watching this
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup[....]o=mym2002&Player=wm&speed=_med

like i said if you REALLY have to eat meat then eat free range meat

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Posted by JK
I wont look coz then i might feel like whizz!!!!

Im having yummy spaghetti bolognaise with jelopena peppers!!! mmm!!

Posted by peeta
fair enough but look at them some time cos even if it doesn't change your mind you should know where your food comes from or just so as not to be ignorant if you choose to comment on this issue

Posted by whizkidd
@786, you are free to eat whatever you like... no one is forcing you.
I just want people to remember, whenever one eats meat, there's one creature which has lost its right to live. A life forcibly taken away..

also, @786, Since you do not subscribe to my views and do not agree why are you trying to post your sadist-like comments here?

Posted by goldenface
Quote:

On 2005-09-06 12:06:25, whizkidd wrote:
@goldenface, just last night i was enjoying Chicken masala, a punjabi dish at home...

Today morning i come across this site.
I won't be eating non veg from now onwards. Since We have other options.

They eat dogs, we eat chicken. I don't see any difference.





I can definitely see a difference.

Dog = noble creature which has been domesticated by humans, useful for companionship, security, hunting, life-saving, guiding the blind, sniffing out explosives and drugs, working with police to apprehend criminals, etc.

Chicken = gormless creature with a tiny brain useful for stuffing pillows and laying eggs for throwing at people.

Have you ever heard of a chicken saving someones life?

Jumping into the sea to save someone?

Have you ever seen a sign say Beware of the Chicken?

Have you ever seen a chicken wrestle a prison escapee to the ground?

Can you not see a difference there?

I can, he he he.

I know what you are getting at though.

Posted by peeta
@goldenface haven't you seen Chicken Run? never underestimate a chicken...

Posted by whizkidd
@goldenface!


Funny...

But i am serious here...
I was a total non vegetarian who couldn't do without it...i hate vegetarian food..even now..but now my conscience doesn't allow me to eat other animals.

I am not trying to be a saint here.. just telling you whom i consider my friends what i feel!
(Esato is like a second home to me!)


Posted by JK
Sorry Im not posted "sadist posts" to be rude or watever...

Also if u gona make this little problem affect your diet, would u really like to know what chemicals go into tin food or processed food or any type of instant dish on your super market shelves????

Lets just say it ranges from fish scales to silicone&thinners!!!!!

Posted by goldenface
@whizz & 786KBR

I have always had no problems eating my fruit and Veg and I always remember to wash the pesticides off first and eat organic when I can (not as expensive as you might think!)

What I have been doing recently is cutting out my red meat and chicken.

Have you ever been to purchase a chicken in a supermarket and noticed that it has grubby knees?

Well that is because the chicken has been fed so much steroids that its body has grown too fast for its legs to support it, so instead of walking on its feet, it just drags itself around it tiny cage on its ankles.

Bleughrr!

Posted by JK
And they live in their little chicken coops with the lights on 24 hours, and the dumb chicks thinks its still daytime and just eat and eat and eat and eat till they fat so they can get killed and fed to us!!!!

Posted by peeta
whys that funny?

Posted by goldenface
@786KBR. I never knew that!!! I think its horrible. Free range for me from now on I think......

Posted by solidsingh
people shouldnt eat meat just because the chicken doesnt do anything good in life like save someones life. we all have a right to live so why do we take that away from animals. im a vege and will always be.


Posted by goldenface
I don't think I will cut meat out altogether, I will see it as a treat for myself.

@Solidsingh.

I hereby solemly promise that I will only eat naughty, disobedient chickens or chickens that cause a nuisance to their fellow birds by pecking them when they don't want to be pecked, or squawking when the other birds are trying to get some shut-eye, or sitting on the wrong perch all the time.



Posted by whizkidd
@goldenface, i didn't open this topic for humour. We have plenty of other threads where we can laugh our a**es out.. so.. I'm requesting you and 786 both to not ruin this thread. how insensitive can people be!

Posted by k4m!k4ze
You mean u'll eat even those who chicken away ??

Posted by JK
The way I see it is that there are millions of poor people dying of starvation!! Id rather kill a chicken to feed them than let them die!

- stupid chickens

And if they dont have chickens, and can ONLY survive on dogs than let it be, a healthy human can contribute much more than a dog or a chicken!!!!



Posted by goldenface
@Whizzkid. Sorry, it must have been a reaction to the horrible pictures I seen on that site you posted. I promise I will be more serious from now on.

Do people in Korea eat the dogs because there are so many strays and it it the easiest way to get rid of them?

@786KBR. I couldn't eat a hound.

I can't eat anything that is looking back at me. I feel queasy eating lobster etc.

[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2005-09-06 13:33 ]

Posted by whizkidd
Thats where you go wrong, i do not consider a human life to be more precious than that of an animal. Both are equal. And what have you done from your part to alleviate poverty? Enjoying spaghetti when people are dying of hunger? I am not saying you should stop enjoying your life thinking about all these evils of the world. But atleast try not to be ignorant and insensitive..

Posted by joebmc
We have to eat meat to survive (imo) if our ancestors didn’t eat meat during the ice ages and that we would not exist. Can you really imaging prehistoric man turning his nose up at a good old piece of meat for some rabbit food.

There is nothing wrong with killing animals for food. ALL carnivorous animals do it and we humans are animals too who are designed to be carnivorous.

IMHO vegetarians let down the human race


Posted by whizkidd
Hmmm... Sorry for making a fool out of myself amongst you guys.... Atleast i'm happy i turned veggie today...

Posted by joebmc
"Thats where you go wrong, i do not consider a human life to be more precious than that of an animal."

Survival of the fittest baby, survival of the fittest

Posted by goldenface
@Whizzkid.

I admire you for being a vegetarian but I don't think any less of other people for eating meat/chicken, its their way of life. You have your way of life and other people have theirs.

If humans had not evolved to eat meat then they would certainly have not evolved into the complex creatures they are today, think why you have those sharp canine teeth in your mouth).

Also, if you don't mind I would like you to answer this question.

If you were on a raft in the sea and seen a dog drowning and a human drowning further away, and you definitely only had room on your raft for one of them are you saying you would save the dog and ignore the human because both their lives are of equal in importance?

(I am hungry now with all this talk about food)


[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2005-09-06 13:51 ]

Posted by joebmc
I'd save the human (only cos he/she would hopefully have more meat on them, unless it was some big f off dog )

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Posted by peeta
we are omnivorous not just eaters of meat.
if the crops we grew to feed to animals, for meat, were grown for us to eat then we would have more than enough to feed the worlds poor.
we have developed as humans to the point where we don't have to kill animals to survive. we still do it because we like the taste of it.
you can debate whether its right to eat meat but what shouldn't be up for debate it whether it ok to torture an animal. it reflects on us as a race how we treat animals. are we cruel and heartless?


Posted by joebmc
Neither. I just think some folk are hungry and in certain parts of the world a dog is no better than a chicken

Posted by whizkidd
@goldenface, nowhere in my posts have i tried to force my opinion on others..i was a non-vegetarian till yesterday.. And i'm sure my life won't take a turn for the worse due to my being a veggie now. The fact is, some innocent creature had to die just because one likes how it tastes! As for the raft question, you have me in a dilemma! But still do note that i'd have equal preference for both "living beings". Hope you can understand me.

Posted by JK
We are just creatures on top of the food chain!! If dinosaurs still lived and were on top of the food chain will u say 'how can they be so incsensitive?'

o and I still havent seen the pic, but I can imagine it? You also worried bout how cruel 'they' can be on animals, ofcourse they can! Have you seen how cruel 'they' are on their own species??

Posted by peeta
@goldenface
thats a loaded question. how about if it was a choice between saving your brother or a stranger. i would pick my brother but that doesn't lessen the value of life the stranger has.

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Posted by whizkidd
@786, dinosaurs or even lions for that matter eat animals because they have to: Not because they like its taste. It is a known fact that humans can survive without eating meat. So dinosaurs ain't "cruel" in my eyes.

Posted by goldenface
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On 2005-09-06 15:03:26, peeta wrote:
@goldenface
thats a loaded question. how about if it was a choice between saving your brother or a stranger. i would pick my brother but that doesn't lessen the value of life the stranger has.

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Not at all. But you value your brothers more!

And before I go any further, no I don't agree with eating dogs for tea but I am cutting down on my meat intake.

[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2005-09-06 14:19 ]

Posted by solidsingh
our ancestors may have eaten meat to survive but now times have changed, we can survive purely on non meat food products. our ancestors used to do a sh*t in the field or in a hole, we dnt do that now do we

Posted by goldenface
@solidsingh

Will you still be eating fish? I love fish.

Posted by JK
Yummy smoked trout!! love it!! and calamari steak!!

Posted by solidsingh
why would i eat fish, i hate it when people say " yeah im vegetarian but i eat fish"

thats just dumb its like saying i dont drink alcohol, only beer

Posted by amnesia
you know this is such a sad thing to look at.
Sometimes I wish I was president of the world to torture the people who tortured the dogs.

If they were doing this because it was man's last or only hope, then I 'MIGHT' understand but this is nuts.


In Korea, they have a special breed of dog that is raised like chicken or cows. However still some areas use any dog that they can find or even believe different dogs are tastier than others.

You see, this all started because of starvation in their country... now it's a cultural thing...

It's sad to see this and there is no excuse to torture them, but you have to remember that not all places are like that. And the 'eating' dogs are killed swiftly.

Thats why in Islam we have Halal, to prevent pain caused to animals.

*sighs*

one day we'll have people who use their brains... one day.

Posted by JK
And we dont eat carnivorous animals!!


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