Posted by silencer1
Guys, if i want to add mp3`s to the phone, and just browse the folders i have uploaded, without having a list of like 200 songs, how do i do it?, i cant beleive the media player shows all songs, no option for directorys? weird, just like my old nokia 6230, crap....
lol...
I have a 1gb pro duo by the way.
Posted by clos420
i guess what your asking is if you can catogorise them?
in the main menu of the media player you can creat new folders and transfer mp3 in to them...but the k750 does not have the "archiving" abilities of the w800
Posted by planty
as you transfer albums to the phone create playlists in the phones media player and there they are easy to look through and play about with
Posted by silencer1
Hmm, well i have 50gb of music all named in album folders, and all tracks named 01 - 02 - 03 - you get the drift, so i would rather just open the folder and play, i hate playlists, dont se the point.
Posted by quaeler
the notion of playing all songs by artist X off album Y is, in itself, a playlist.
that nit aside, that media player is pretty insufficient for doing most things that modern humans have come to expect from an mp3 player (like:
. allowing the browsing of mp3s by artist or album
. reading m3u playlists
. having a shuffle function that isn't braindead
. reading track information from id tags
. etc )
Posted by silencer1
See thats where i want it simple, i dont and have never used any of that crap on any player, i have folders with each album in, ie
Band - Album Name
In the folder
01 -
02 -
03 -
I just want to open the folder, select song 1 and play, thats all i ever do, and im happy see
Posted by victorh017
Mmmm, no one seems to like the media player on the K750.
Weird....
But isn't that -maybe- people have waaaay too many expectations?
I actually like it.
Posted by darky
it does the job, although being able to read m3u (i.e. create playlists on pc) would be a nice feature
Posted by max_wedge
You may not like playlists, but all a playlist on the k750 is, is just a way of putting songs into a list. If you create folders within your MP3 folder when browsing the memory stick via explorer, you can then create playlists on the K750 from any of those folders you like.
So you can create "playlists" which are essentially just a shortcut to a folder in the MP3 folder....
Easy..
Posted by quaeler
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i totally beg to differ. any shuffle of a playlist of songs A, B , C, D, E that results in me hearing, for example:
D, A, B, D, E, A, C
is _not_ doing the job (and was written either by high school students or a cd player engineer transported from the late 80s)
Posted by ctsamados
It loooks like a phone with MP3 capabilities is still not a replacement for a dedicated MP3 player.
I have a Zen Xtra and just use my phone for backup if I forget my proper MP3 player.
Posted by quaeler
ctsamados:
that's the extremely frustrating thing: there's really no reason (now that 1 gig and 2 gig sticks are available) that it can't be -- SE is just lazy or incompetent, or both. even the unreal player i used on my p900 was a decent mp3 player - and here we are 2 years later with a better platform, and SE still can't write what is, for all intents and purposes, a college side project of an mp3 player.
if they hadn't crippled and broken their j2me implementation of the player, maybe someone would at least be able to write a sufficient java version of it.
Posted by max_wedge
Would it not be possible now with the JSR-75 API of K750/W800, to implement a java player?
I agree though that it is slack of SE, especially with the W800 Walkman badged phone version, but even for the K750 you'd expect it to have atleast the functionality of a basic mp3 player.
It doesn't affect me too much personally, since I've never used the random feature. But I still agree it's slack. It's surely not that hard to implement a random play that doesn't repeat songs within one cycle!!
There is so much else about these phones to be happy with though, overall I'm pretty impressed. Every phone I've ever had has some kind of compromise that seems completely unnecessary!
Posted by quaeler
the current SE j2me implementation of Player is broken (when fetching it with a subclass of DataSource) and is crippled (when fetching it with a subclass of InputStream (a pause of many seconds between when the file is opened and the player actually starts sending sound)).
it's been reported to the SE engineers via the developer forums at SE, but i've no idea what effect that will have or when it will have it.
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Posted by evinco
I know nothing about java programming at all, but from what you're saying quaeler, it IS possible (at least theoretically) to fix the J2ME implementation (i.e. add the ability to program a decent music player) with a firmware (i.e. software and not hardware) update?
If so, and if they fix it, I'd probably learn Java just to make myself a decent video player
Posted by darky
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I understand why you're pissed and I would be the same if I had that problem but I don't, did you upgrade to the latest firmware (although you shouldn't have to for these basic features, but S.E. software programmers are lame)
I have R1L and the only time it would repeat a song is if I stop the mediaplayer (not pause) and start playing another song,
the fact that I have a 1 gb card and over 250 songs kinda kills the odds though so i can't be sure
Posted by quaeler
evinco: ya - it's possible to write a player in java, if SE fixes their current implementation
darky: it's true that the shuffle may be fixed in the current firmware -- i've been avoiding upgrading due to the video degredation that's been reported.. i guess i'm just being whiny at this point - and should ask which i value more: good video or correct shuffle play.. :- /
Posted by max_wedge
Yeah, it's a bitch. I started on R1J (and updated to R1L after a day)so I've never had the good video. Now I'm watching the w800 versus K750 images thread findings to decide if I'm going to put up with slightly worse pics, or upgrade to W800 firmware for better pics, but lose the activity button.
I don't think I'll do it though, the activity button is way to useful to me.
As far as mp3 players go, the K750 ergonomics (when using the player in phone lock mode) is better than many mp3 players I've owned. I find I can reach down to my belt and change volume or track/station with ease, and it becomes very intuitive. Many mp3 players can't even manage that. It's certainly doesn't have the features of a hard drive based player like iPod, iRiver etc, but I don't know if it has been marketed as a replacement for that end of the market.
Posted by silencer1
Im getting the hang of it guys, weird problem, though, when i select media player for the muisc button, it just plays the last song?, is it suppossed to do that, or actually open the media player, not that it matters, as its easier like you say to just browse to the folder and hit play, rather pointless media player really.
Posted by max_wedge
If you just browse to the folder, not using the mediaplayer, the track advance feature (and other things I can't remember off hand) doesn't work. You are probably better of creating playlists by adding whole folders to a playlist, then playing that folder thru the mediaplayer by using the playlist.
As for the music button, it plays the last thing that was used, so for example the last song you listened to, or if you were listening to the radio the last time you used mediaplayer, it will start the radio.
Well, that's on K750 anyway...I've not had a chance to check out the W800 mediaplayer yet.
Posted by silencer1
Yes your correct, also, the equalizer settings do not work, crap, so i have to make playlists for all my music, what a pile of toad!
Posted by max_wedge
It's not actually that hard if you already have them in folders....
Instead of going into browse files, select your folder and hit play, you can create a temporary playlist for a folder...just accept the default name, mark the relevant folder, add, then play the playlist.
It's not quite as quick I agree, but it's not that much longer. It's 9 keystrokes compared to 13 (if the folder you want to play is first in the list after VideoDJ)....
Posted by ericwan
Is there any software for the k750i that allows syncing playlists with a PC (i.e., similar to itunes). Now I'm manually dragging folders in the Windows File Manager to the mp3 K750i folder, followed by manually adding playlists. This seems like a really stupid way to manage the music.
Thanks.
Eric
Posted by Syzzer
I'm also disappointed by the media player on the K750i. I was wondering what the differences are with the W800i media player.
As the W800i is sold as if it was a replacement MP3 player I guess there is a better media player in it? Does it support sort by filename or m3u playlists?
Posted by quaeler
of quasi-related note:
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadget[....]itunes-on-sony-ericsson-126446